League of Legends (Old)

[animorpherv1]

Lose your internet connection forever

[PJ.]

Cut off your fingers

[Dwlee99]

PERMA BAN SORAKA GOD DAMN

[Dwlee99]

I HAVE AUTO'd THIS VAYNE AT LEAST 10 THOUSAND TIMES AND SHE DIDNT POTION NEITHER DID RAKA FULL HEALTH UEIEOGTH

[Dwlee99]

Okay so ik I didnt' play perfectly, but how in the world do I win this game?
http://www.replay.gg/search/na/Dwlee99#2126990732

[Klazam]

watched six mins-

A) Alistar kept on engaging on the vayne, which is useless- should be focusing raka
B) Q's were being hit
C) you won the lane according to the CS, dont worry about kills that much.
D) You werent harassing raka enough, should be hitting her because that makes her go b, in which you can then engage on vayne and kill vayne.

[Dwlee99]

I couldn't deny vayne hard enough to actually carry the game. Can't really control my support, and I wasn't going to go behind their minions and into auto range of vayne to harass raka. Still don't think the game was winnable.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

doing placements on smurf :O

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=cosmic%20cutie

[Psyche]

so uh
ive been taking teemo mid a lot
and probably because ive gotten good at laning with him compared to my elo,
it's been cool
things are certainly different, but in mid i have more impact around the map, can guard drag, and generally have a much squishier and more immobile opponent compared to what i'd face in top

[lil g]

If you're winning with tito mid then you are in the land of total incompetence, and I'm not even sure where that is since in br5 I haven't seen it (although I wish I had).
There is no mage with a shorter range than tito and no one who can't burst him to oblivion. There are a bunch of mages who trade favorably with him too. We can forgo hyperbole and just say he's not able to go in mid.

[RayFrost]

Teemo is legitimately better off jungling than he is going mid. AT least those things don't have the ability to turn him into paste in a single spell rotation.

[Psyche]

in fact, his winrate's a lot worse in jungle than it is in mid, and i've experienced his issues as a jungler even post-runic echoes firsthand
i certainly don't think it's easy to play him mid; every issue with it lil g brought up is mostly true
but it's definitely not impossible

[animorpherv1]

You don't play Teemo jungle AP - you play him with devourer and other on-hits.

[Psyche]

that's interesting
when teemo jg was common enough to make it onto champion.gg, it was runic echoes

[animorpherv1]

And recently, one of MF's builds on the site had two LDRs.

[Dwlee99]

HOW.

[JasonWazza]

Because their algorithms have some auto complete to builds (as it's the only way to get a full build every game) and it's clearly bugged (or one troll did it and the code just says that is the build)

[mykonian]

I don't trust the builds that site presents. Too often they did not fit with what I thought to know about building the champions I played.

[Ankamius]

http://plays.tv/video/56ea38d5ba196bc638

[DeathNote]

got baron, got fifth dragon, ahead in gold.... lets push mid for the win. Got first nexus turret. Everyone piles onto Darius.

Annie Ult everyone dies they push back and win.

[pickemgenius]

http://plays.tv/video/56ea38d5ba196bc638

tilted.

[Randomnamechange]

Friendly reminder about EUW mafiascum club. Need one more player to make a tag

[MTD]

I don't trust the builds that site presents. Too often they did not fit with what I thought to know about building the champions I played.

I do like to look at them for ideas though

[zoraster]

I think the most common builds are almost always fine unless there's a bug. The highest win ones are much less even in quality as they can indicate a host of things. You can see this is especially true with the "first ability chosen" thing, where a lot of times a big CC ability that's fairly useless to take as a solo laner level 1 is the #1 win, but I think that's because you'd only take it if you pulled off a fairly successful invade/counter-invade.

For example, Morgana mid in the vast majority of circumstances can't utilize a Q at level 1 because there's no real damage to follow up -- you really want Q-W. But her highest win rate is a Q first for mid lane (it makes sense to take first as a support, obviously). There's a reason why Morgana takes W first in 2571 games compared to 546 games even though it's consistently been the case that Q first is the higher win rate.

Other problems are that some builds are only successful because you get super fed. For a long time, Sona's highest win build was a pretty damage focus build, but at least when I was playing tons of Sona, I found that only works well when you get fed in lane almost to the level of a carry.

[mykonian]

It's happened before, but nowadays, I know the Illaoi build is faulty. From what I have seen other people buy, from what the better illaoi "mains" play, etc. And from what I can deduce logically myself. First item according to champ.gg is cleaver. Which isn't a very good item for her. It's too offensive, cleaver gives percentage armor pen which you can't use yet (not that much armor around yet), and becomes abusive when you have a ad-dot or a combo series you can pull off. Illaoi has neither, she has big damage moves and is slow to put them out, having a very poor attackspeed and her tentacles apart from her q being unreliable.

The item you do want is gauntlet, which helps your waveclear, sets up your combos since a slow zone is very practical when your opponent is trying to dodge slow predictable tentacles, and it gives you

some

control, as well as more tankiness, and it synergises very well with your given second item which is steraks. That item both builds agree on and it plays to her strengths. "If" you get cleaver and that isn't an obvious choice imo, you get it after that, when it's competing with defensive options, most notably visage.