Mini 1773 : Symphonic Metal Mafia (Game Over?!)

[Shiro]

Like seriously, I want to help you understand but I can't because you confusing me with each post you make.

Speaking of hiding,I just realised where is teh kush?

Were you asking this because you suspect him?

eeeh I just found it weird that he has been MIA like that. Are you?

[Maestro]

kush is in prod range. He'll be back soon.

[Maestro]

Also:

What happened to maestro?

Hey. Hi there.

What happened to maestro?

HEY. HI. FUCKER.

Read literally my last post in this thread, then respond to it. I'm nowhere near prodrange, so I have no idea why you said this not just once, but twice. Stop being a useless little shit. Pointing to me and going "but but what about

Maestro

?!" won't make the wagon on you evaporate, nor does it make you look useful or anything.

I've already supported Maestro and said that I echo wisdom's thoughts on you. Aristo I have as scumlean because of the vig comment. the mountains because I have no idea. I explained a farmer, and wisdom and shiro.

Your lack of reads kinda blows.

You've literally done nothing except parrot Wisdom this whole game, you realize that right?

And before you bitch at me about it again, what questions were you insisting I hadn't answered in one of your last posts?

Quoted for your convenience. Now answer me.

[Maestro]

kush is in prod range. He'll be back soon or he'll be replaced.

EBWOP/FTFM

[a plain farmer]

Like seriously, I want to help you understand but I can't because you confusing me with each post you make.

Speaking of hiding,I just realised where is teh kush?

Were you asking this because you suspect him?

eeeh I just found it weird that he has been MIA like that. Are you?

I admit I had to check and see if he'd posted so far on D2 since I didn't remember his posts. I agree that it was weird. I'm not going to call it scummy yet, though.

[Jake from State Farm]

Why would you call him not posting scummy at all?

[Masquerade]

Maestro, what are your reads? You do a lot of talking but if a read even shows up it's just to say that jake is not scum or Wisdom might be scum.

UNVOTE:
I feel better about farmer since his posts after voting him, I'm not sure what to think about Snarky.

@Snarky: I know this was early Day 1 but I went over your iso and found that you had a scumlean/read on nnn because of his comment on the early wagon. The post you quoted of nnn is after nnn put Maestro at L-2 and you accuse him of 'brushing off a wagon that went to L-1' Please comment.

[Masquerade]

We'll see nnn when we'll see nnn, there's no need to talk about him not posting while there are plenty of posts to talk about.

[a plain farmer]

Why would you call him not posting scummy at all?

From the games I've seen, lurkers seem to be disproportionately scum (even if a majority of lurkers are still town).

[Jake from State Farm]

Mental note, check to see if your past games reflect that.

[Wisdom]

Why would you call him not posting scummy at all?

From the games I've seen, lurkers seem to be disproportionately scum (even if a majority of lurkers are still town).

Aristophanes is lurking way more than Maestro, I don't see you worried about him.

[Jake from State Farm]

Farmer, you have the lowest post count out of everyone alive yet you are concerned with who's lurking? Hilarious.

[SnarkySnowman]

Question for those with potentially serious votes: where is the Scum motivation for me / my posts so far?

Why would you assume any of those votes are serious?

This vibed badly, after a vote on a wagon that went to L-1

Downplaying something like that a bit, eh?

This one, masq?

nnn votes Maestro for L-2
Wagon goes to L-1
nnn says "why would you assume that wagon was serious?"

that vibed badly to me, because the wagon had a legit reason behind it (claiming VT for the "Angry WIFOM OMGUS bastardry"), and I thought that at least some of the votes were not just for the lulz.

Also:

What happened to maestro?

Hey. Hi there.

What happened to maestro?

HEY. HI. FUCKER.

Read literally my last post in this thread, then respond to it. I'm nowhere near prodrange, so I have no idea why you said this not just once, but twice. Stop being a useless little shit. Pointing to me and going "but but what about

Maestro

?!" won't make the wagon on you evaporate, nor does it make you look useful or anything.

To clarify: I was asking "why have we stopped caring about Maestro", and not "Where is maestro why isn't he doing things".

I've already supported Maestro and said that I echo wisdom's thoughts on you. Aristo I have as scumlean because of the vig comment. the mountains because I have no idea. I explained a farmer, and wisdom and shiro.

Your lack of reads kinda blows.

You've literally done nothing except parrot Wisdom this whole game, you realize that right?

And before you bitch at me about it again, what questions were you insisting I hadn't answered in one of your last posts?

Quoted for your convenience. Now answer me.

Spoiler: A Huge-ass Quote-wall

/confirm VT let the Angry WIFOM OMGUS bastardry begin

Question for those with potentially serious votes: where is the Scum motivation for me / my posts so far?

/confirm VT let the Angry WIFOM OMGUS bastardry begin

let the Angry WIFOM OMGUS bastardry begin

Angry WIFOM OMGUS bastardry

WIFOM OMGUS bastardry

WIFOM bastardry

WIFOM

You have 5/7 votes on you.
Mafia is now either eager to lynch you or not lynch you.
So they are willing to sacrifice looking townie to accomplish these tasks.

Not necessarily, at all, in any way?

This is a Mini, meaning 2-4 Scum. Meaning 9-11 Town. Meaning this wagon (of 5 players) could easily be 100% TvT and Scum could just sit back and watch it happen.

They don't have to want to lynch me and they don't have to not want to lynch me. It's page 2, page 3. They could easily ignore this wagon and nobody would notice, or care. So you're just wrong?!?

Not sure if you legit believe you're right or if you're pullin' stuff out your bum for fun.

WIFOM bastardry

I don't like that Jeanne and Maestro "claimed" VT, even in a for-the-lulz kind of way.

I don't like that you're assuming or implying that I was claiming "for-the-lulz"
I don't think anything I've done so far implies I was claiming "for-the-lulz"

It was a serious claim, in my first post, made out of frustration and because I knew it would give me something to work with RIGHT out of the gate. Tell me where I'm wrong in my train of thought here, and tell me why claiming VT in a Closed Normal Setup is inherently scummy / something that you don't like.

WIFOM bastardry

Wisdom, Jake is Town

FIRST CONCRETE READ OF THE GAME

Why?

Gut for now, I'm at work phoneposting

OKAY MAYBE NOT

@jake
why is Wisdom scum or bad for refusing to vote "obvious scum" when there are like 11 other other people also not voting for "obvious scum"?

He's not scum for not voting kill, he's scum because he's not playing like a townie.

He's avoiding answering questions

from at least 2 people, he provides little to no actual substance,

when asked to explain himself he does in as few words as possible, if he actually does it at all

, he's not doing anything to progress the game and

he's not even attempting to convince others to follow him

.

I think the bolded is the only thing of importance here but it's part of what leads me to think/assume Wisdom is Town. ScumWisdom is usually pushier and grabs for "townbloc" control more often. The underlined is null and par-for-the-course with him, sorry Jake. It's not alignment-indicative.

VOTE: kushmountains

Other than this and post 364, which is basically a scumslip, I have no inspiration in this game. Killthestory makes this entirely unenjoyable to play and I wish one of us would be force-replaced or lynched or killed very soon. If you actually aren't an alt you have a lot of growth to do on this site before you go around calling established players and sound strategies bad. As it is, you're making yourself look like a fuckwit.

This vibes badly, and it feels pretty forced towards the end.

I enjoy Wisdom's sparse style and I may try to emulate it in my next town game.

This is not basically a scumslip - he's saying, he may try to do it in his next game where he rolls town (since, you can roll scum or 3p, you know). It can easily be read in that it says nothing about this game and I think that's how it was meant. Pretty weak.

I'm actually legitimately upset about this. I joined to play with Wisdom and Jake (and Aristophanes), and to experience and FA-modded game. Wisdom seems Town and even if he and Jake are duking it out, I appreciate that I'm getting all the good I remember from Jake and none of the rage I used to see from time to time. It's really disheartening to see somebody (KTS) appear out of the woodwork and be allowed to feel like they're the shit and think they already know everything and that everybody and everything else is wrong.

I expect, after prolonged interaction, you will become the second player on this site that I legitimately develop a hatred for. You are a black hole for this game for me, and I don't give a flying fuck if somebody tries to call me out for an appeal to emotion here, because I am emotional but I'm not appealing to anybody or anything.

I'm blocking you, and I'm not dealing with you in this game. Die tonight for all I care; I wish I could shoot you myself. I'm not replacing out of this game and I'm not giving you the time of day if you're going to come onto this site and ruin it for me. I don't have to deal with that bullshit and I won't.

I'm blocking you, and I'm not dealing with you in this game.

Also, be advised this is 100% serious. If you want me to respond to anything KTS says from now on you will have to quote it because I will not see it in this thread.

Give me one good reason I shouldn't hammer you, prick

Whoa watch the disrespect lad, ill have to report you to the GM if you keep up with that

probably because if you hammer town it secures your lynch tommorow

You know what. No. I'm not in the fucking mood for you anymore. Get out of this game.

VOTE: killthestory

Lynch me tomorrow. We have the room for that mislynch, but you I will watch die with pride no matter what your fucking alignment is. Jesus Christ.

He wasn't obvTown?

Like, no. It's inexcusable to say this. If he were obvTown I couldn't've hammered him because he wouldn't've been at fucking L-1, Wisdom.

He was at L-1 because people didn't like his attitude.

I disagree with this.

HEY WHATS THIS

Side note:

Maestro started out the game nice and active and stuff. Now of a sudden it's like he's a different person. Not interactive and all he can talk about is how much he hates KTS.
What happened bro?

Is it not obvious??
You read the game right???

To be honest, it's not obvious to me, and I've read most of the game :/

Alright. Yes, the game would be much better with KTS in here. He was obvtown and a good scumhunter, as proven by the fact he caught Dierfire.

And really? We didn't have numbers for a lynch like one week before the deadline? That's the weakest argument ever.

1) You misunderstand, I mean this game is more enjoyable for me without him in it. Regardless of whether he was a good scumhunter or not. Catching 1 Scum in 1 game does not a good scumhunter make.

2) Again you misunderstand. I mean we had the numbers for the ML - and yes we only know it's a ML after the fact, but with 1 Scum gone last night I'm comfortable not giving a shit that we made that mistake yesterday.

Wisdom, let's be honest with eachother. There's no situation, even the expectation of a death-tunnel on somebody not-me, in which I would leave you alive if I were Scum in this game. I knew I'd get scrutiny for such an AtE hammer and I don't give a shit. Wise up. I'm Town. Now move on.

PEDIT: I tried a bunch of different permutations and got a game from 2003 (before any of us joined) and a game from 2015 that Jeanne was in but Wisdom was not. WTF?

WIFOM bastardry

Conclusion: Scum Maestro

VOTE: Maestro

It feels like AtE a lot more than actual frustration to me.

Who are you scumreading, Maestro? Do you have anything other than OMGUS at wisdom?

Do you have anything other than OMGUS at Wisdom?

I don't think Wisdom is necessarily Scum, I advocate caution tomorrow.

You answered only the second half.

@Maestro, please start responding to literally any of the stuff I said made you scum. Ignoring me to focus on wisdom is not a good excuse. If you really have stopped caring about this game, please replace out.

If you want the TL;DR

1) Why is my case on you wrong?
2) Who are you scumreading?

[a plain farmer]

I'm not worried about anyone's lurking. This topic arose out of me questioning Shiro about her concern for kush's lack of recent posting.

[Wisdom]

I was asking "why have we stopped caring about Maestro"

Because you and farmer are more scummy

[Jake from State Farm]

lol pressure building on snarky so he's trying to bring back the maestro stuff after that ship already sailed.

[SnarkySnowman]

I'll get to my full case on Jake but I feel like lately his entire goal has been to de-rail me rather than actually post legitimate anything.

[Jake from State Farm]

I haven't tried to de-rail you. nobody is de-railing you but yourself. If you want to lynch maestro, you should post more than "what happened to maestr" twice.

What I actually did though was ask you a very simple question to figure out why your town read changed on a player and you acted like you never had one. When I pointed out you did, you said you had it cause you sheeped a town read. Once I proved that was false, you changed your story yet again and then started flailing and throwing false accusations towards me.


None of that is a town reaction. I'm sorry you were so easy to rattle, guess you need to work on your scum game for the next time you roll scum.

[Jake from State Farm]

I think it's also funny you are going to take the time to make a case on me, yet you didn't even do one for maestro and you were very interested in lynching him. maybe that's what you meant by me trying to de-rail you? Idk, just funny anyway.

[Masquerade]

nnn votes Maestro for L-2
nnn says "why would you assume that wagon was serious?"
Wagon goes to L-1

FTFY.

[Aristophanes]

Why would you call him not posting scummy at all?

From the games I've seen, lurkers seem to be disproportionately scum (even if a majority of lurkers are still town).

Aristophanes is lurking way more than Maestro, I don't see you worried about him.

I was thinking the same thing lol

[SnarkySnowman]

I think it's also funny you are going to take the time to make a case on me,

yet you didn't even do one for maestro

and you were very interested in lynching him. maybe that's what you meant by me trying to de-rail you? Idk, just funny anyway.

Have you even read the game?

[Jake from State Farm]

Yes I have and "A huge ass quote wall" isn't a case. Nothing you posted after that was a case either

[SnarkySnowman]

Did you even read anything I wrote in said quote wall?

[SnarkySnowman]

Let me re-post and maybe clarify some stuff. Also put it in BOLD and LARGE so you can read it?