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Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:28 am

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Aww fish nuggets.
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Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:30 am

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In post 1213, DeathNote wrote:We don't need the help in Germany and Defender can do everything you would be doing in BUR.


Will he though?

I don't want to have to struggle to get people from another alliance to coordinate with a future attack on german soil. Random's role is obvious enough, but it's not like Def. in Bur will attack in Munich, instead of say, moving to Ruhr.

Bur is also not "northern territory" considering that's it's one space away from Mar as well as Paris,

and lastly, I'm not sure any one of you realizes that Brest is not the biggest concession because despite the amount of fleets in the area, none of them could possibly stop an invasion of Paris in two moves by Ani and Mist
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Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:36 am

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In post 1170, Zulfy wrote:I wanna get the ramifications of either italian heading into venice clear.


Missed this. There's almost no difference. But one of us should support the other in. I've already sent the A Rom S A Apu - Ven Pm in already. I could change it
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Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:40 am

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In post 1213, DeathNote wrote:We don't need the help in Germany


To be clear, if either Mist/Pabs/possibly me/Zulfy don't get a slice of German Pie, we'll go from poised to attack to poised to defend.
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Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:42 am

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In post 1224, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 1223, OhGodMyLife wrote:And whether you're for me or against me, Northerners and Scandinavians, you must see that it is not in your best interest for my centers to fall to the MedAgree while you all diddle about playing swapsies with them.

I concur. Hence the Germany invasion.
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Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:44 am

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My current plans are to move back to Moscow and take back STP in the fall (Assuming you're cool with that Gale)

That is unless anyone has any spring/fall plans they need my help with
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Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:46 am

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In post 1225, Save The Dragons wrote:Aww fish nuggets.

STD you can still bounce ani's move into Brest this round and take the center in the fall. You're playing for yourself and yourself alone, this is Diplomacy. You don't have to weaken yourself at the behest of your alliance.

Dan's ultimatum that the MedAgree should be allowed to surround Paris because they can try to take Paris anyway if they want to is bad. Upper France can and should defend itself by bouncing a MedAgree army away and having STD build an army instead of a fleet once he captures a territory.
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Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:47 am

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In post 1230, TheBreeze wrote:My current plans are to move back to Moscow and take back STP in the fall (Assuming you're cool with that Gale)

That is unless anyone has any spring/fall plans they need my help with

You'll need cheery to move to Livonia and support taking StP back. Can't do it 1v1.
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Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:52 am

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In post 1232, OhGodMyLife wrote:
In post 1230, TheBreeze wrote:My current plans are to move back to Moscow and take back STP in the fall (Assuming you're cool with that Gale)

That is unless anyone has any spring/fall plans they need my help with

You'll need cheery to move to Livonia and support taking StP back. Can't do it 1v1.


It obviously won't be allowed to be taken back either. I suggest moving to Galatcia.

In post 1231, OhGodMyLife wrote:
In post 1225, Save The Dragons wrote:Aww fish nuggets.

STD you can still bounce ani's move into Brest this round and take the center in the fall. You're playing for yourself and yourself alone, this is Diplomacy. You don't have to weaken yourself at the behest of your alliance.

Dan's ultimatum that the MedAgree should be allowed to surround Paris because they can try to take Paris anyway if they want to is bad. Upper France can and should defend itself by bouncing a MedAgree army away and having STD build an army instead of a fleet once he captures a territory.


Exactly how can a northern alliance stop A Gas S A Mar - Bur / A Mar - Bur / F Por - MAO and A Bur/Gas - Par / A Gas/Bur S A Bur/Gas - Par (with F MAO doing w.e)?
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Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:52 am

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I mean unless you help them, but that'd be foolish
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Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:59 am

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In post 1165, ActionDan wrote:As for your move [pabs], it will be to Bohemia or Vienna, I'd flip a coin to decide. The important thing is to free up Tyr for the army that moves through Venice.


After some more consideration, make it random between Munich, Bohemia, or Vienna
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Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:03 am

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Ok Mario , ID love your support back into vie before I get eliminated!
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Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:05 am

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In post 1235, ActionDan wrote:
In post 1165, ActionDan wrote:As for your move [pabs], it will be to Bohemia or Vienna, I'd flip a coin to decide. The important thing is to free up Tyr for the army that moves through Venice.


After some more consideration, make it random between Munich, Bohemia, or Vienna


Just take it by ear and pay attention to posts like ^
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Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:08 am

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In post 1236, Bellaphant wrote:Ok Mario , ID love your support back into vie before I get eliminated!

Nah, if you move into Vienna that's sufficent to block any invaders?
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Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:12 am

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I'd sooner see D3f take Bur than mist, I'd be willing to support that move from Mun
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Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:13 am

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Prod dodge again, I really don't have the energy for this right now. I'd out but there are a lot of players who are being replaced.

PEDIT: Yeah I'll support the move into Bur.
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Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:14 am

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I mean it is diplomacy but there's a difference between 7 players and 20 players. You're not wrong that this isn't a team game but having everyone say "yes" to something and then having me do something else isn't necessarily great for me when they surround me. Telling people they need to play for themselves doesn't mean that siding against 10 people and having 2 or 3 armies now is somehow better than having 1 for now and having people willing to support you. Yeah, it's a risk but judging from how many times you tell people that I think people are willing to take that risk.

Also even if I did bounce ani it'll take me a while to get a new territory with my fleet so I'm not sure how that helps me anyway.
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Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:14 am

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I'm guessing ani doesn't want to wait until next year to take brest:P but i may as well ask.
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Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:18 am

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In post 1239, OhGodMyLife wrote:I'd sooner see D3f take Bur than mist, I'd be willing to support that move from Mun


I'm sure you'd rather see them bounce.

Anyway if Def. moves to Bur, Ani can take Paris and then move to Bre if necessary, that way, everyone wins!
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Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:22 am

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Ok yeah. On to Venice.

Too bad trieste has been gone this whole time.
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Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:23 am

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In post 1230, TheBreeze wrote:My current plans are to move back to Moscow and take back STP in the fall (Assuming you're cool with that Gale)

Why on earth would he be okay with that? :lol: I literally do not understand half the things people say in this game.

Other then supporting Aeg into Greece with Bulgaria I think we're just holding. As much fun as it would be to give Rory heart attacks by convoying to his backdoor. :P
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Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:24 am

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What's the portugal situation? Seems people didn't vote.
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Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:26 am

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I'd assume either Aronis or he should go into MAO with one supporting the other.
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Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:30 am

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People should really be communicating more in general tho. Like Ani and Mist should be taking to each other. Etc.

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Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:34 am

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I'm no longer liking this arrangement very much. This is assuming that Ani is listing to what Dan is actually saying.

I want to go back to the original plan of Convoying Gale into Belgium with STD/Snakes support.

The only thing I would like to change is having Defender move into GAS so that he has multiple options next turn and makes it easier for us to either push Ani out, take Spain/Mars, or protect Paris.
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