Open 631 - Diffusion of Power (Over)

[drmyshottyizsik]

Also self meta is fucking annoying. Stop using it.

[KainTepes]

I'm here.

VOTE: KainTepes

Not a serious vote.

No strong reads yet.

"Not a serious vote"? why do you think it is necessary to justify that? TRYING to hide something?

[Lowell]

no shit shotty's an easy mislynch, i could post a single time in this game and could probably lynch him.

Tell me more about this "mislynch"?

[Lowell]

Nope. Jumping on wagons is awesome. Townread on snarky.

Nah, you're wrong if you think this is scummy. Wagons are pro-town. Scum tend to flit by and play conservatively, town play free. You actually going to argue that town try to tone it down more than scum? Nah. But whatever, guy, you do you I guess.

[KainTepes]

LOWELL Is town like, KILL THE STORY and PISTACHIO are being watched by me,,

[chilledtea]

I find myself agreeing with Lowel here. Aggressive players tend to be town. He seems to have a clear head too, which I like.

I will have to read through the thread again. I like what I saw regarding Rheagar as town.

Although I agree with Lowel I don't know if I agree with him about Snarky.

[SnarkySnowman]

no you have not seen my scum game lol. like ive gotten warnings for it. its probably changed by now but yeah, i have problems with it LOL

Also self meta is fucking annoying. Stop using it.

[drmyshottyizsik]

no shit shotty's an easy mislynch, i could post a single time in this game and could probably lynch him.

Tell me more about this "mislynch"?

Again go read my old games

[Lowell]

No the point is he just threw out there that you're a "mislynch", implying he knows who is town and who isn't. Scumslip there is what I'm getting at.

[Kop]

Nope. Jumping on wagons is awesome. Townread on snarky.

Nah, you're wrong if you think this is scummy. Wagons are pro-town. Scum tend to flit by and play conservatively, town play free. You actually going to argue that town try to tone it down more than scum? Nah. But whatever, guy, you do you I guess.

That isn't always the case, it depends on who is scum, and what there game play is.

I've seen scum, play aggressively jumping from wagon to wagon, and chased down reads, which got a town read from me only for them to flip scum.

I agree with the sentiments, but not always the case as you point out.

[Almost50]

VOTE: KT

Conf!bias; I know. I just don't like KT's play much. The problem is he seems to get away with it too.

[KainTepes]

VOTE KILL THE STORY WITH ME,, OR PISTACHIO,, ONE OF THEM MUST BE SCUMMER

[Almost50]

Convince me. Let me see a case on either of them. Shouting doesn't count either.

[KainTepes]

did you see my previous POST,, let me quote

[KainTepes]

Kain is a troll VI type thing.

Snarky is suspicious.

why are you discounting me as a "TROLL VI TYPE THING"? remember the last game we had where i was scum??

i find it weird you are not considering the possibility RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!

VOTE: Killthestory

I'm here.

VOTE: KainTepes

Not a serious vote.

No strong reads yet.

"Not a serious vote"? why do you think it is necessary to justify that? TRYING to hide something?

these are my THOUGHTS

[Rhaegar]

In case it isn't obvious, I'm 99% sure there is at least one mafia between Shotty and Rhaegar.

Boys and girls, this here quote is an example of setting up lynches. It's a common scum tactit in which someone attempts to justify two back-to-back lynches and get away with the first mislynch. And yes, I used the word mislynch, does that mean I think/know shotty is town? Of course not, talking theory right here.

Anyway, I'm going to file this quote away for the records.

@Rhaegar 132 does this seem not genuine to you?

Don't think you quite get my point about genuineness. No, that post doesn't bother me. Some of the later stuff, however, does.

Rhea far is town. Town lean on Lowell just because I was pressuring him, but my gut said he was town. Rhaegar's explanations were also satisfactory, and it helped in his case. Well done.

First, it's Rhaegar (I know, spellcheck likes to screw with it ). Secondly, when did this, "oh, I was just pressuring lowell but thought he was town" stuff come up. You certainly had me sold on you actually believing lowell was scum.

Also self meta is fucking annoying. Stop using it.

As also pointed out by snarky, why use it then?

The problem I have with Rhaegar is that he is basing his reads around Shotty being town,

I'm basing them on shotty being an easy lynch, and therefor a target for scum. I have not doubt that if shotty did happen to be scum (25 percent chance) that a partner or two would bus the hell out of him.

Shotty is a bad player. Lazy townies and devious scum are the people going after him. I'm not trying to say I have a read on him either way, I'm just saying that his wagon is one where scum would likely congregate regardless of his alignment.

Oh, and then there is this quote that I feel I should emphasize again.

Shotty is an easy lynch. I can't say I'd personally shed a tear if he was given the noose myself.

no shit shotty's an easy mislynch, i could post a single time in this game and could probably lynch him.

Tell me more about this "mislynch"?

Good catch lowell, not sure how I missed that. Definitely see how that could be a scumslip.

[Rhaegar]

Questions:

@killthestory: You suddenly swapped to saying lowell is town, why is your vote still on him?

@Snarkysnowman: Why did you take your vote off of shotty, who you were/are calling scum, to put it on Almost. The shotty wagon still had momentum, and the almost wagon had none. It seems odd that you would abandon a good wagon on one scumspect, to place a vote on a nonexistant wagon of another scumspect.

@Duppin: Why do you believe that one of me or Shotty must be scum? Why isn't it possible for us to both be town? How is that scenario unrealistic in your mind?

[Almost50]

So, you expect me to sheep your reads on one who called you a troll, and another who voted you?? I mean, what's new?

I

called you a troll elsewhere for playing in this same manner, and I know

for a fact

you scum read everybody who scum reads or votes you.

[drmyshottyizsik]

No the point is he just threw out there that you're a "mislynch", implying he knows who is town and who isn't. Scumslip there is what I'm getting at.

Good catch, I figured he was just referencing me saying I've been instalynched. But you're right, I think he slipped there

[KainTepes]

So, you expect me to sheep your reads on one who called you a troll, and another who voted you?? I mean, what's new?

I

called you a troll elsewhere for playing in this same manner, and I know

for a fact

you scum read everybody who scum reads or votes you.

stop disregarding my arguments by straw manning them. You know that is NOT what i meant,,

what i mean is that KTS seemed to treat me like he is SURE i am TOWN, but only mafia will know that for sure,,

and PISTACHIO voted me and tried to protect himself by saying it is "not a serious vote" so if anyone questions him on it he won't have to explain it

Both are Scummy behavior.

[Almost50]

OK... show me where KTS explicitly said you were town, and I might sheep you on this one. The Pista thing isn't scummy in itself. They'd have to stay on your wagon until you're @ L-2 (say) for it to be.

[Lowell]

VOTE: killthestory

[KainTepes]

OK... show me where KTS explicitly said you were town, and I might sheep you on this one. The Pista thing isn't scummy in itself. They'd have to stay on your wagon until you're @ L-2 (say) for it to be.

he did not EXPLICITLY say it,, but it is implied in his post when he accused Snarky and Me, saying Snarky is suspicious but I am "just a VI", even though we both did something he thought he was suspicious,, find it weird he is just "excusing me", it is very strange behavior

[SnarkySnowman]

Town {Rhaegar, KainTepes, duppin}
Townlean {Lowell}
Null {Kop, pistachi0n, pisskop, Autti, shotty, chilledtea}
Scumlean {shotty}
Scum {KTS, Almost}

Questions:
@Snarkysnowman: Why did you take your vote off of shotty, who you were/are calling scum, to put it on Almost. The shotty wagon still had momentum, and the almost wagon had none. It seems odd that you would abandon a good wagon on one scumspect, to place a vote on a nonexistant wagon of another scumspect.

The reason I voted shotty in the first place was because he basically claimed scum. Pretty sure it was a joke, and it fits with his meta from what I've read, but I'm reading both KTS and Almost as more scummy than shotty. He's still on my radar, but I think there are better options at the moment.

[Almost50]

but I'm reading both KTS and Almost as more scummy than shotty

Are you sure you're not confusing games?