Mini 1773 : Symphonic Metal Mafia (Game Over?!)

[Wisdom]

No, I am working with people. I have shown why farmer is scum and I have even tried, against all hope, to reason with you and Jeanne even though it's completely impossible because your dislike for me has blinded you.

You are rejecting me, not I.

[Jake from State Farm]

You haven't tried to reason with me unless your reasoning is "the stuff you say, town can do but the stuff I say only scum can do"

Yeah bullshit

[Jeanne11]

We are better at reading than you. Every player on MS is better at reading than you. Everyone, not just me. In fact, I am second worst.

[Jeanne11]

@Wisdom

[Wisdom]

I have, but sadly you are ignoring my posts.

[Jeanne11]

And you insult people for having different thoughts from yours.

[Jake from State Farm]

If you used your own logic that you used to say snarky is town and applied it to your own reasons, you would not be so sure of yourself.

Now since you wouldn't be so sure of yourself, if you were town you would WANT and EXPECT everyone else voting farmer to provide their own feedback. But nobody has. Everyone voting farmer besides you is a sheep vote.

If you were town this would worry you. It doesn't though.

[Wisdom]

It is not worrying me. I realize farmer is a manipulative scum and not everyone can understand at a glance he's scum like I do. Nobody did when I caught scum in my last town games.

[Jake from State Farm]

Btw looking at your game summaries on your wiki, you aren't actually as good at reading people as you claim in this game.

[Jake from State Farm]

It is not worrying me. I realize farmer is a manipulative scum and not everyone can understand at a glance he's scum like I do. Nobody did when I caught scum in my last town games.

And here it is. You got lucky in a game or so and think you are gods gift all the time. I've done the same thing. Put your ego aside Mr. I scum read some Mason's and VT in a game and in another I got townies lynched.

Put your ego aside.

[Wisdom]

I'll consider it if you put your ego aside and read farmer for what he is instead of "he is town because I don't like Wisdom and Wisdom scumreads him".

[Jake from State Farm]

You do reason that the only reason im forced to defend him is because of the lack of reasons for him right? Did you forget that he's been a sort of scum read of mine since day 1. The only reason I never voted him is because I can't find any hard evidence (to which I've basically said already)

His earlier posts felt swarmy to me, but the things you are accusing him of either are your own personal opinion that I don't see how you came to that conclusion or things I have actually seen town do and even I personally agree with.

I'm worried that NOBODY besides you can provide a reason for why farmer is scum, and yours aren't even that good.

So this has nothing to do with my ego. This has everything to do with what feels right. If nobody can make a case on a person, odds are that person probably isn't scum and NOBODY can make a case for farmer, at least nobody has made one yet. What you have posted is the closest thing and I disagree with it, I don't see scum motivation behind some of his actions.

So who's got the ego? Certainly not me

[Jake from State Farm]

*You do realize *

[Wisdom]

True, that's not an ego matter, that's just a fallacy you believe in, that there has to be a case in order for someone to be scum.

Have you never caught scum by just gut? I assume you have, because at the beginning of the game you scumread people because their posts "rubbed you the wrong way". You don't need hard evidence to realize someone is scum.

[Jake from State Farm]

Gut to scum read people
Case to get them lynched

Never lynched somebody solely on gut, never seen town even agree to lynch somebody because of one persons gut. Everyone even scum pretending to be town asks for a case or reasons.

[Wisdom]

Case will just be biased though if the reason you've caught them is gut.

[Jake from State Farm]

Of course it will be. But that's how this game has been played for years. I'm never going to follow somebody's gut, I'll follow my own. For me to ignore my own gut and follow somebody else I need very good reasons.

Unfortunately you haven't even posted mediocre reasons so I'll never follow you. add in the fact that day one you refused to answer questions from at least 3 people, you clearly aren't on the same team as me.

[Wisdom]

You aren't following yours either, though. You said you scumread farmer on gut but you just weren't able to make a case.

Instead you are focusing on two people, one of which you just dislike his playstyle and personality, and the other is a lynchbait who does not do things you expect from town despite how wrong it is to expect things from town.

[Jake from State Farm]

Right did you not see what I said?

Gut to scum read
Case to lynch

I'm not able to make one on farmer. I'm able to make one on you and snarky

I'm doing exactly what I said

[SnarkySnowman]

@Jeanne please respond to my last post.

@Everyone else, can we at least agree on a maestro lynch or are we just gonna stay in limbo? Half of us are coasting <. <

[Jake from State Farm]

Yes you are coasting. Stop it

[SnarkySnowman]

But also half the playerlist too.

[Jake from State Farm]

So do something. Are you really ok with a compromise lynch on someone you haven't even given a reason for why they are scum. A person who you used to town read just cause he's the alternative to you? That's weak sauce if you are town.


You have tunneled on maestro since page 1 and I don't see you trying to get your other scum reads lynched

[Frozen Angel]

[Frozen Angel]

Floor Jansen (pronounced [ˈfloːr ˈjɑnsə(n)]; born 21 February 1981 in Goirle) is a Dutch singer-songwriter and vocal coach. She is the founder, and vocalist, of Dutch progressive metal band ReVamp, and the lead vocalist of Finnish symphonic metal band Nightwish.
Jansen first became known as a member of symphonic metal band After Forever, standing as their lead vocalist from 1997, to their disbanding in 2009. When After Forever disbanded, she formed ReVamp and has released two albums with them. In 2012 following the departure of their lead vocalist Anette Olzon, Nightwish brought in Jansen as a touring member until the end of their Imaginaerum World Tour. In 2013, they announced Jansen was now their full-time lead vocalist.