Open 634: Sharing is Caring (Game Over)

davesaz · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:56 pm

Official Vote Count

BlacleWorks

(3): Alexcellent, wgeurts, Aneninen

Maxous

(2): BlacleWorks, Clumsy

KuroiXHF

(2): Persivul, SirCakez

texcat

(2): KuroiXHF, Maxous

drmyshottyizsik

(1): KainTepes

KainTepes

(1): drmyshottyizsik

Not Voting

(2): Masquerade, texcat

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-04-12 01:00:33)

ISO · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:46 pm

We can also vote clumsy if anyone's up for that. Today I'll explain both once I'm free.

BlacleWorks · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:52 pm

Alexcellent is the only person voting for me that isn't scum. I purposely made myself low hanging fruit because scum wasn't being easy enough for me to read. I thought it was fishy that Anen had a town read on me extrememly soon. I thought it was even fishier that Wgeurts was only trying to ping town with every post. Instead of... you know... scum hunting like the 4 people who have all attempted to start wagons(this does not include me even I know my wagon is pure BS lol).

I am by no means saying that I am the best reader of individuals but I know what I have scum read before and I know how to force it out of people. If these 2 aren't scum falling for my tricks isn't going to help you town in LyLo.

VOTE: Anen

After all, I can't vote for the man I'm trying to buddy. That being said Its D1, get on this wagon... what do you have to lose?

BlacleWorks · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:54 pm

I need to used punctuation more. These sentences are hard to decipher if you don't take my exact natural pauses.

Clumsy · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:00 pm

I want to hear from Anen first. My vote depends on that.

KainTepes · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:55 pm

SHOTTY IS SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!

KuroiXHF · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:40 pm

In post 155, KainTepes wrote:SHOTTY IS SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!

You were doing so well before... why'd you stop? Really, you need to do more than just throw accusations.

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:54 pm

In post 155, KainTepes wrote:SHOTTY IS SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought we had gotten past the yelling kt, you had like 3 solids posts come on! This is why I'm voting you. You are using your VIness as an excuse. See I call you a VI and now everyone is making an argument that VIs must be town, way off topic of what I was saying, which means now all you have to do is play the VI card and everyone will just say of he's just a VI. Trust me I invented that trick. You arr scum.

ISO · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:59 pm

You do know KT is rather young?

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:10 am

In post 158, wgeurts wrote:You do know KT is rather young?

I could assume he was probably 14 or 15, but why are you defending him?

Maxous · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:14 am

In post 151, wgeurts wrote:We can also vote clumsy if anyone's up for that.

uhh no?
why on earth why would you vote him?

KuroiXHF · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:20 am

BTW, Clumsy made a very good point, one I hadn't noticed. If he's scum, he's doing a damn good job.

Aneninen · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:07 am

I don't have time for a full catchup now so I'm only answering Clumsy.

I checked only the

posting style

of Kuroi in those games, not the content itself. I mean, the length of his posts, the sheer amount of them, the voting habits, etc. Sometimes these are very different when a player is town and when he's scum. I can't tell too much more about this topic right now because of ongoing games.

It's not too reliable to meta someone in this way, but sometimes it helps and it gives enough information for getting an early-Day1 read. I wouldn't use this kind of quick-meta for eg. Day3, though.

texcat · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:27 am

Sorry, I'll have time for a post this evening.

Aneninen · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:55 am

In post 151, wgeurts wrote:We can also vote clumsy if anyone's up for that. Today I'll explain both once I'm free.

Why?
I don't think he's scum. Eg 148 looks like a townpost.

Blade, 152. I've never townread you. This:

" purposely made myself low hanging fruit because scum wasn't being easy enough for me to read."

is a terrible thing to do as town and I don't think you haven't known it.

In post 160, Maxous wrote:
In post 151, wgeurts wrote:We can also vote clumsy if anyone's up for that.

uhh no?
why on earth why would you vote him?

Why are there scumreads on Maxous again?

Masquerade · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 6:06 am

Prodge.

Catching up to all my games now, will get to this soon.

KuroiXHF · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:38 am

FYI, I'm generally AFK on weekends. I may be able to put in something every now and then, but that's about it.

ISO · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:27 am

I like Clumsy's wall actually. I tend to townread walls too much but that one felt genuine.
On the contrary, really don't like Blacle's Anen vote. Liking Anen's post so far, and his reasoning for the vote is "I made myself look scummy to see if scum would go for me." Like wtf, if you're being scummy on purpose then obviously people will scumread you for it.

Aneninen · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:37 am

^^
That.

Masquerade · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:41 am

In post 95, BlacleWorks wrote:Masquerade after the game could you give me some insight into your town read of me. When I'm actually scum I need to be able to be town read! And this is the first game that I have not become scum king number 1 within my first 3 posts lol. Or better yet now would be better gotta make sure the read is genuine and all.

Your RVS-posts felt towny to me, especially 16.
However:

In post 102, BlacleWorks wrote:Wgeurts you can't answer my questions they are not for you And I'm voting to apply pressure. Can you vote with me so the pressure gets more um pressurized?

You just vote someone for this exact reason..

In post 115, Alexcellent wrote:Why the unvote here?

I always unvote an RVS-vote once RVS seems to be over.

In post 116, Alexcellent wrote:I don't like these questions so early in the day.

Why not?

I'm starting to lose interest..

I like Aneninen.

Ok I'll fully read this later. I just caught up on 3 other games I'm in and I really need a break rn.

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:32 am

In post 167, SirCakez wrote:I like Clumsy's wall actually. I tend to townread walls too much but that one felt genuine.
On the contrary, really don't like Blacle's Anen vote. Liking Anen's post so far, and his reasoning for the vote is "I made myself look scummy to see if scum would go for me." Like wtf, if you're being scummy on purpose then obviously people will scumread you for it.

The point of that is to seperate those you scum read you and those who acted opportunistic.

texcat · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:11 pm

In post 107, Aneninen wrote:Quickthoughts.

Wgeurts. Most posts about theoretical stuffs instead of scumhunting.

I'm certainly willing to give him some time, but it's worth a raised eyebrow.

In post 146, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 139, KuroiXHF wrote:
In post 136, drmyshottyizsik wrote:why warn scum though, why not continue to let them slip up?

Who said anything about scum? I'm town-reading him. Plus, this is day phase. Do you think he's going to accidentally forget his scum buddies if he's scum?

You still don't know he is town and there is no reaspn to coach town like that. You want people to keep talking about why they think scummy things. You only hint for someone to real in the crazies in mafia when you and they are scum.

It seems to me that Wgeurts spent quite a few posts earlier coaching people about various things. Why did you suddenly decide to call out Kuroi for coaching?

In post 170, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 167, SirCakez wrote:I like Clumsy's wall actually. I tend to townread walls too much but that one felt genuine.
On the contrary, really don't like Blacle's Anen vote. Liking Anen's post so far, and his reasoning for the vote is "I made myself look scummy to see if scum would go for me." Like wtf, if you're being scummy on purpose then obviously people will scumread you for it.

The point of that is to seperate those you scum read you and those who acted opportunistic.

Are you defending Blade here? And can you explain how you separate the two? How do you separate the votes that are because you did something scummy from those that are just opportunistic?

drmyshottyizsik · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:12 pm

In post 171, texcat wrote:
In post 107, Aneninen wrote:Quickthoughts.

Wgeurts. Most posts about theoretical stuffs instead of scumhunting.

I'm certainly willing to give him some time, but it's worth a raised eyebrow.

In post 146, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 139, KuroiXHF wrote:
In post 136, drmyshottyizsik wrote:why warn scum though, why not continue to let them slip up?

Who said anything about scum? I'm town-reading him. Plus, this is day phase. Do you think he's going to accidentally forget his scum buddies if he's scum?

You still don't know he is town and there is no reaspn to coach town like that. You want people to keep talking about why they think scummy things. You only hint for someone to real in the crazies in mafia when you and they are scum.

It seems to me that Wgeurts spent quite a few posts earlier coaching people about various things. Why did you suddenly decide to call out Kuroi for coaching?

Because no one else did and I noticed it. I wasn't the first to see the Wgeurts point and I didn't make any objection. I tend to sit back and poke and build a sociologic profile of the game in my head. Everyone in here is a part to a machine. I usually profile on the more subtle aspects of their play. The underlying motivation rather than the face value of the post if you will.

BlacleWorks · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:26 pm

Shotty! I don't think any of my more underhanded reading tactics are gonna work on you

BlacleWorks · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:26 pm

Masquerade do you notice anything odd about my vote on Anen?