Open 634: Sharing is Caring (Game Over)

[Clumsy]

Wanted to post to say I'm following conversation, but haven't had time to really gather my thoughts. First free day is Tuesday, I'll make something substantial by that night.

[davesaz]

Official Vote Count

BlacleWorks

(6): Alexcellent, wgeurts, Aneninen, KainTepes, SirCakez, texcat

(L-1)

texcat

(3): KuroiXHF, Maxous, Persivul

wgeurts

(1): BlacleWorks

Maxous

(1): Clumsy

KainTepes

(1): drmyshottyizsik

Not Voting

(1): Masquerade

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-04-12 00:59:28)

[wgeurts]

Will respond to that wall with yet another shredder.
One thing I would already like to note is that it contains yet more narration changes. He said his (not) sarcastic post was serious yet he literally states I'm a strong town-read in his next post. That's a contradiction in his narration.

[wgeurts]

Also BW it's time to claim now.

[wgeurts]

Refuse and I honestly couldn't care less if someone hammers you.

[Persivul]

Blade, you need to claim..

[SirCakez]

Someone just give intent to get the claim

[Aneninen]

I've got no time to play now.
I'm still content with that wagon.

[Persivul]

I thought that was implied, but FTR, intent to hammer.

Personally I think the guy is town trying to play too tricksy, but at this point he's going to be a distraction for as long as he's here, and his flip will help analysis. Absent a claim he needs to go.

[BlacleWorks]

Claim in before I head to school. Vigilante here, if there is no CC, JK on me tonight if you value towns ability to Night Kill. I don't think I will be able to shoot tonight, I don't know if me shooting to better than cop or jk using poswers instead.

Lynch Wgeurts Please. Anen tomorrow, cop should investigate SirCakez.

[wgeurts]

Mate, I'm probably dying tonight.

[wgeurts]

UNVOTE:
Everybody confirm you're not the vigilante. We're not lynching an uncounter-claimed power role.

We have a week left, if BW is being truthful then nobody will counter and he is town. JK should definitely target him to then keep a confirmed town alive and prevent him from taking a stupid shot as I don't trust him with a gun. BW, if you're the vig then you shouldn't shoot as the JK will block you, thus meaning you waste a town shot.

I'll reread later and reform reads based of the assumption nobody will counter-claim him. If someone does CC then we lynch BW anyway.

[Persivul]

If he's not CC'd we don't lynch him, but let's think about the JK action. If he promises not to take a shot tonight we should consider not using the JK. In my experience vigs are on average negative utility, and if scum NKs him, we get an extra use of our cop or JK anyway. I'm not sure scum would want to make that trade this early, when a single conftown doesn't mean a lot. Of course, that's if we trust him not to shoot. As wild as he is I'm not sure we can trust that. But I'd hate to be wasting our shots reigning in one of our own PRs. That just doesn't make sense.

[Aneninen]

Mobilepost.
Let's see whether there's a vounterclaim.

As for the usage.
Either NoKill or he should shoot a conflicted player.
No individual action Blade, please! The title of The Worst Vig ever was taken ages ago, okay? ^_^

[Aneninen]

Oh forgot this
UNVOTE:

[texcat]

Well hell
UNVOTE:

[wgeurts]

No JK should def be protecting the confirmed town lol

[Persivul]

No JK should def be protecting the confirmed town lol

We can't keep him alive long enough to make a difference, unless you're proposing we don't use any of our actions for cop investigations. We just protect one wild conftown every night and gain no new information from our PRs.

VOTE: wgeurts

[wgeurts]

Otherwise BW just dies tonight. Like the standard protocol with an IC is to protect them, protecting conf-towns is always the way to go.

[Persivul]

And you don't think that the limited action mechanic changes that?

Suppose we protect BW 3 nights. Then we enter D4 with 1 conftown and 1 action remaining.

Suppose we let the cop investigate 3 nights, and scum kill BW. Hopefully the cop finds scum. If not, on D4 he can claim, giving us potentially 4 conftowns (cop plus his 3 clears) and 1 action remaining. Things can go wrong with that - clears can be killed before then - but the potential is much greater this way.

Plus, it's noteworthy that BW is voting you, we find out he's a vig, and you immediately want to lock him up indefinitely...

[Clumsy]

Popping in to confirm I am Not Vig. I'll reread when I can.

UNVOTE: Maxous

An old read, much fresher stuff to go on.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I'm not a vig but I'm not sure I would cc if I were, however we can't lynch him. But I will say the if he is scum and fake claiming and the reall vig is just hiding jailkeeping him would stop the real vig from taking him out and it will also stop a cop investigating him. Again I don't think we can lynch him today, but the vig claim and the way he asked for the night to go would be a very good scum fake claim, we need to remember that in the following days.

[Persivul]

I'm not a vig but I'm not sure I would cc if I were

Why the fuck not? It's a guaranteed scum kill.

[wgeurts]

Persivul, I've already stated that I don't trust him with a gun so yeah I'm paranoid he's going to shoot a stupid target. I hadn't considered the other roles though and what you say is better for town.

[KuroiXHF]

Alright. I'm back. I'm excited to finally make my full recap from the weekend. Will I lay the hammer? Time will tell.