New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

ISO · Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:36 pm

No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

Aristophanes · Post Post #876 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:39 pm

In post 875, SirCakez wrote:No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

Unless deadline...amirite?

iraonavp · Post Post #877 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:41 pm

In post 864, Performer wrote:
In post 806, iraonavp wrote:
In post 801, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 776, Fraggernaut wrote:Still think iraonvp is the better lynch today but we can't risk a no lynch.

VOTE: Reubus Swagrid

We can vig him. I didn't like his gratuitous power role hint. He's scum, too.

Don't vig me though. I am a PR of such extreme importance that it cannot be described in words. When I received my role PM, I could barely believe that the mods would add such a severely overpowered role into the game. On it's own my role could probably restore world peace.

Just read pg 33. Not seeing any sort of soft claim but I did notice ira's hard claim of being a PR, which I don't think was a wise idea.

-No big pressure on ira (by this I mean L-2 or L-1)
-He spontaneously claimed PR

What on earth is he thinking?? This is just painting a big target on the back, if he's telling the truth.
The good thing is whether he's truth telling or lying, this can be figured out as days go on .

So I don't get lynched, also I don't want Reubus to get lynched.

In post 814, iraonavp wrote:
In post 811, Fraggernaut wrote:
In post 809, Something_Smart wrote:Aristo!
I would be okay with a hammer. I would kind of like Reubus to give some final thoughts or a defense but I doubt that's going to happen.
Ira's last few posts have been really weird and I didn't like the softclaim and I'll have to read him again overnight. I'll also have to reread Fragger, no idea where I stand on that slot.

Didn't you call me scum early in the day?

Seems pretty wishy washy.

Awful post.

We should lynch this guy instead of Reubus, seriously. Reubus is just another shitty lurker policy lynch.

No it's not another poor choice of lynch. Remember our game where KainTepes & Katsuki were lurking and spewed a ton of nonsense in the game, yet they won? We can't just let lurkers or nonsense spewers slide by .

Yeah that sucked, but that doesn't make lurkers likely to be scum-aligned. Basically I see lurkers as people who are hard to read. Since I have other stronger scum-aligned reads, I don't want to lynch someone I'm null on. If I had no better scum-aligned reads then I would start to look at lurkers.

And I wasn't null on N e s s, anyway. I thought he was town-aligned. Reubus has done nothing to change this.

iraonavp · Post Post #878 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:42 pm

In post 875, SirCakez wrote:No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

He claimed VT already. Still don't hammer though.

ISO · Post Post #879 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:42 pm

Aero said we'll get an extension if there's a replacement tho Ari
Wait what the hell who did Ari replace wtf

iraonavp · Post Post #880 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:43 pm

Aristophanes replaced Kop. This information is available in the OP.

ISO · Post Post #881 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:44 pm

I am not paying enough attention sorry

iraonavp · Post Post #882 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:45 pm

In post 872, Drixx wrote:Isn't lurking out your wagon when you are nearly at lynch essentially a scum claim?

For the record; NOW I'm saying I think the slot is scum and we should finish it off.

Why don't you tell me, is it?

Drixx · Post Post #883 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:45 pm

In post 875, SirCakez wrote:No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

You mean the VT claim he made to which I responded that he should feel liberated and play aggressively as a VT since drawing a kill is added utility and therefore a VT has literally nothing to inhibit them?

Aristophanes · Post Post #884 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:48 pm

In post 879, SirCakez wrote:Aero said we'll get an extension if there's a replacement tho Ari
Wait what the hell who did Ari replace wtf

Aero really is the greatest!

Also, Hi Cakez!
Thanks for noticing my arrival. I feel so loved...

Firebringer · Post Post #885 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:48 pm

In post 866, Performer wrote:VOTE: Boon
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@Fire
What're your reads?
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In case I die tonight - my scumreads to this moment, are Fire, Boon (just look at that ISO where 3/7 of his posts were prod related , yet he never provided any catchups), and Reub

I don't have reads, only frenemies.
I will give more reads day 2. Promise

Firebringer · Post Post #886 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:48 pm

Aristophanes, you drinking tonight!?!?!?
I might be too.

Firebringer · Post Post #887 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:50 pm

In post 867, Performer wrote:Fire. Are you scum again like the time we caught you when you were Survivor, or when you were against me, implosion, Bella , and RC? (if any of you 3 are reading this game, hi folks! lol)
Or are you town like the game pk just moderated with you and I as PRs?

I am both of these things and non of these things.

Aristophanes · Post Post #888 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:55 pm

In post 886, Firebringer wrote:Aristophanes, you drinking tonight!?!?!?
I might be too.

Hiiii! *waves*

Moreso drinking and reading than posting, but it still counts right?

iraonavp · Post Post #889 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:56 pm

Who are your frenemies then, Firebringer?

Killthestory · Post Post #890 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:05 pm

Quick hammer!
Quick hammer!
Quick hammer!

iraonavp · Post Post #891 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:25 pm

In post 883, Drixx wrote:
In post 875, SirCakez wrote:No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

You mean the VT claim he made to which I responded that he should feel liberated and play aggressively as a VT since drawing a kill is added utility and therefore a VT has literally nothing to inhibit them?

Do you think that Reubus is scum-aligned, because he isn't doing these things?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #892 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:28 pm

In post 875, SirCakez wrote:No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

We totally can hammer the stalling scum.

Drixx · Post Post #893 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:33 pm

In post 891, iraonavp wrote:
In post 883, Drixx wrote:
In post 875, SirCakez wrote:No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

You mean the VT claim he made to which I responded that he should feel liberated and play aggressively as a VT since drawing a kill is added utility and therefore a VT has literally nothing to inhibit them?

Do you think that Reubus is scum-aligned, because he isn't doing these things?

I don't believe a town!Reubus would say to me "Yeah, you're right! That makes sense" and then turn into a lurksack. It's within reason that there's some other reason for inactivity, but it seems much more likely that he's scum waiting out the wagon and hoping we move on out of frustration. I've lost count of how many times I've seen a wagon move to someone else because the person just doesn't show up and claim or engage, and people are afraid to hammer, for some reason.

iraonavp · Post Post #894 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:08 pm

In post 893, Drixx wrote:
In post 891, iraonavp wrote:
In post 883, Drixx wrote:
In post 875, SirCakez wrote:No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

You mean the VT claim he made to which I responded that he should feel liberated and play aggressively as a VT since drawing a kill is added utility and therefore a VT has literally nothing to inhibit them?

Do you think that Reubus is scum-aligned, because he isn't doing these things?

I don't believe a town!Reubus would say to me "Yeah, you're right! That makes sense" and then turn into a lurksack. It's within reason that there's some other reason for inactivity, but it seems much more likely that he's scum waiting out the wagon and hoping we move on out of frustration. I've lost count of how many times I've seen a wagon move to someone else because the person just doesn't show up and claim or engage, and people are afraid to hammer, for some reason.

Maybe that's why Reubus actually said "I'll concede that".

I think any player in a similar position is no more likely to be town-aligned disinterested with the game, than scum-aligned trying to "wait out the wagon". You are just choosing the most suspicious explanation for his actions.

Performer · Post Post #895 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:21 pm

ira if you checked Ness's ISO , he voted ilikebugs , who I'm townreading. He had 12 posts of back-to-back filler.
Later Reub replaced in, stated this was his only game, then apologized for slacking, then told us he ran out of motivation from PAST games.

None of this adds up to that slot being town to I don't see how you're not scumreading this slot.

@mod is this slot getting replaced?

Performer · Post Post #896 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:24 pm

@everyone who thinks he claimed VT: he spoke about past games with VT pms and that he never got a scum pm in past games. I doubt he's town in this game.

Despite that, I'm willing to wait for the mod to reply, to see if there will be progress in yet another replacement for the slot.
If the 2nd replacement doesn't claim because of outright refusal or outright ignores a claim to us - then we hammer.

Aeronaut · Post Post #897 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:51 pm

Extending one day peace fam I'm drunk

Go redsox

Killthestory · Post Post #898 (ISO) » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:37 pm

Dude thanks Pham

ISO · Post Post #899 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:40 am

In post 866, Performer wrote:VOTE: Boon
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@Fire
What're your reads?
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In case I die tonight - my scumreads to this moment, are Fire, Boon (just look at that ISO where 3/7 of his posts were prod related , yet he never provided any catchups), and Reub

Why Boon? Activity isn't alignment indicative. And why vote a vanity wagon so close to deadline?

SirCakez wrote:No we aren't hammering Reubus slot without a claim stop

This is almost certainly if scum if Reubus claims a PR and flips scum. I don't think he outright claimed VT though he certainly implied it.