New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[Aristophanes]

Thank you. I figured I'd join Davsto, recruit a couple people to be Drew Carey and Wayne Brady and we could play, "Whose scum read is it anyway?"

As long as someone is Special Guest: Richard Simmons! I'm in

[Something_Smart]

Kuroi, what is your read on Fragger?

[KuroiXHF]

Kuroi, what is your read on Fragger?

I'm liking him less and less. I kind of want to vote him, actually. I'm waiting until I can reread first.

[Firebringer]

If no one gets why Fragger should know that their is no possibility of Jester in this game.
He has hosted NOrmal games here.

A host is required to know and examine the banned roles from normal setups.
The fact he mentioned it as a actual possiblity is laughable.

[Firebringer]

I'm town, I'm trying to find the scum that's on my wagon. I'm at L-3 right now. I believe there's at least two currently on my wagon.

This is just vague. Point out specific ones.

[Axl_Rose]

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With 16 Alive, it's 9 to Lynch!

Mod Notes:

"Better"
[Prodding Ilikebugs, Yume]
[Replacing Guyfawkes]

• (0)
  KuroiXHF
  —
  (0)
  Ozgin
  —
  
  (3)
  Aristophanes
  — Performer, Killthestory, Slandaar
  (0)
  Killthestory
  —
  (0)
  Performer
  —
  (0)
  Drixx
  —
  (0)
  Ilikebugs
  —
  
  (1)
  Firebringer
  — KickAssAndGiggle
  (0)
  GuyFawkes
  —
  (0)
  Something_Smart
  —
  (0)
  Slandaar
  —
  
  (1)
  Yume
  — DrippingGoofball
  (0)
  iraonavp
  —
  (0)
  DrippingGoofball
  —
  (0)
  KickAssAndGiggle
  —
  
  (3)
  Fraggernaut
  — Something_Smart, iraonavp, Aristophanes
  
  
  (8)
  [Not Voting]
  —
  Ozgin, Ilikebugs, Fraggernaut, KuroiXHF, Firebringer, Drixx, iraonavp, GuyFawkes, Yume

- (expired on 2016-05-14 23:00:32) -

[Slandaar]

Slandaar I'm curious what your assessment is on Kuroi's town meta.

I found what I needed to find. My intuition was slightly wrong but we will see.

I voted Snarky and Guy because of their comments that are completely and in all aspects, unhelpful to the town. They coast. Snarky was not such an active player, but he wasn't even in the bottom three in activeness.

I know

why

you voted them. I even quoted your Snarky vote. I think he was the bottom in activeness personally but don't really need to argue that.

I swear to fucking God, I'm going to vote the next person who mentions "slots" in any way other than indicative of alignment. My predecessor was inactive, but I'm active. I scum hunt and I have reads.

I think you didn't get the point so I will make sure it's clear for everyone. I was referencing Boon who was inactive and Snarky who was inactive not You/Boon. The point was your argument applies to both, both are town from your POV, yet you continued into today voting Guy for the the same thing basically. Doesn't seem sensible to me.

Feel free. Guy was a safe choice to vote until I was caught up because considering the activity, I doubt there would be a lynch that fast. Also, I expected Guy to have posted. Now that he's being replaced, I'm not voting until I get to meet his replacement and have a chat.

Why not Yume instead of Guy?

[Yume]

Because I am town?

[Fraggernaut]

If no one gets why Fragger should know that their is no possibility of Jester in this game.
He has hosted NOrmal games here.

A host is required to know and examine the banned roles from normal setups.
The fact he mentioned it as a actual possiblity is laughable.

The fact that Fire is still harping on this after I've explained it two times makes me wish I wasn't on them last night more & more. If you ISO me you'll get a explanation of what I meant from that post which was actually directed towards you & your play style.

[Fraggernaut]

@Mod

That VC is way wrong.

As for the scum that I think are on my wagon, the two I most read as scum is Irao & Something_Smart. Something_Smart's "case" on me has been atrocious & weak as hell. He's continuing to try to spout bs as factual. Aristo being on my wagon is meh. Their vote was fairly weak & they even called it a place holder vote themselves & mentioned that they may move it.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

I'm town, I'm trying to find the scum that's on my wagon. I'm at L-3 right now. I believe there's at least two currently on my wagon.

This is just vague. Point out specific ones.

Agreed. Please, I'm voting you, don't make points I agree with.

Ozgin is town. Drixx has done nothing to change my read from D2. DGB is a lot less towny so far today.

Can you, FB, explain why you town-read Aristo. And no meta, please: you want me to accept your tone read on Snarky was made honestly, then humor me.

Let's not faff about: Snarky was mislynch bait, and I am convinced scum (almost certainly plural) were on the wagon. FB and Drixx were by far the worst joiners.

I literally don't understand why Performer and (I think) iraonavp are puzzled by my scum read on FB at this point. Just to reiterate:

I like joining wagons.
Wagons are fun:
VOTE: SnarkySnowman

I think Snarky may be town.

How are people coming to this conclusion?
I read his ISO, it wasn't even filled with town AtE, it was just AtE. How can anyone read this on motivation or tone.

I TONE READ PEOPLE AND CAN TELL YOU I DONT SENSE A TOWN TONE!

This isn't scum? Seriously?

...

Something_Smart, Ozgin, Slandaar = town
iraonavp, killthestory, Performer = prob!town
Guy/Replace, Yume, Kuroi, ilikebugs, DGB = unclear
Aristo, Frag = scummy
Drixx, FB = scum

PEdit: LOL @ Frag. S_S and iraonavp are the only two on the Snarky wagon who didn't annoy the bejeezus outta me by joining it. iraonavp has dumb reads but he's not scummy, and S_S is town.

[Fraggernaut]

Current Vote count on me is.

Fraggernaut (6) - Something_Smart, Firebringer, Ozgin, Performer, Iraonavp, Aristo

Something_Smart & Irao are my top two votes as scum for being on this wagon as I previously mentioned. If there was a possible third within the vote, I would lean more towards a Ozgin or a Fire, especially as Fire is still harping on something that's already been explained, though I chalk that up more as being bad town cause I read them as a PR from their interactions yesterday with Aristo. Ozigin in typical Ozgin fashion the entirety of this game placed a vote & disappeared. Performer & Aristo I believe are the least likely to be scum on this wagon, & doubtfully I don't think there's three on the wagon. I would say there's a definite two on the wagon. Aristo's from their own admission deemed their vote a placeholder vote which was really odd, as I mentioned in my post beforehand. I don't think Aristo as scum would place a vote that freely & let it be known what it was. If they were scum they would find a reason to place the vote on a misguided wagon to get the mislynch that Somthing_Smart is attempting I believe.

[Fraggernaut]

@KAAG

I'm still waiting for a case from Something_Smart that isn't completely fake. He doesn't have one.

[KuroiXHF]

I swear to fucking God, I'm going to vote the next person who mentions "slots" in any way other than indicative of alignment. My predecessor was inactive, but I'm active. I scum hunt and I have reads.

I think you didn't get the point so I will make sure it's clear for everyone. I was referencing Boon who was inactive and Snarky who was inactive not You/Boon. The point was your argument applies to both, both are town from your POV, yet you continued into today voting Guy for the the same thing basically. Doesn't seem sensible to me.

Guy, from the time he was active, was simply a detriment to town and was not pro-town. No one disputes this.

Feel free. Guy was a safe choice to vote until I was caught up because considering the activity, I doubt there would be a lynch that fast. Also, I expected Guy to have posted. Now that he's being replaced, I'm not voting until I get to meet his replacement and have a chat.

Why not Yume instead of Guy?[/quote]
I'd vote them both if I could. In fact.

Because I am town?

Fuck you.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yume

[KickAssAndGiggle]

@KAAG

I'm still waiting for a case from Something_Smart that isn't completely fake. He doesn't have one.

It's D3 though, and frankly you haven't made me think you're town.

There is precious little interaction between yourself and Drixx either.

[Fraggernaut]

@KAAG

I'm still waiting for a case from Something_Smart that isn't completely fake. He doesn't have one.

It's D3 though, and frankly you haven't made me think you're town.

There is precious little interaction between yourself and Drixx either.

I've mentioned Drixx plenty of times throughout this game, throughout both days.

515
603
633
1036
1043

ect ect.

I also questioned Drixx about his "idiot ball" logic & a few other of the weird things he's said in this game that pinged out to me.

[Aristophanes]

Because I am town?

Welcome back!
Any other words to type?
Wisdom to impart upon us?
Something, oh, I don't know...productive to contribute?

That'd be nice ya know.

[DrippingGoofball]

Because I am town?

BLOWTORCH THIS PLAYER SLOT

[Fraggernaut]

Because I am town?

BLOWTORCH THIS PLAYER SLOT

Due to a "?" ?

[KuroiXHF]

Because I am town?

BLOWTORCH THIS PLAYER SLOT

I gave everyone fair warning...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[Fraggernaut]

@KAAG

Here's the issue I have with your argument.

Something_Smart, Ozgin, Slandaar = town
iraonavp, killthestory, Performer = prob!town
Guy/Replace, Yume, Kuroi, ilikebugs, DGB = unclear
Aristo, Frag = scummy
Drixx, FB = scum

Those are your most updated reads from your 1935

In the world where you think I'm mafia, alongside Drixx & Fire means you believe I as mafia would hard defend my partner Drixx throughout day one, day two & day three openly. It also means you believe I would hard defend Fire late day two, call him a PR which I read him as & then continue to express my belief that Fire is a PR & defend them into day three. Which is implausible & extremely dumb if I was actually mafia, which I'm not.

[Fraggernaut]

Also if I'm on a team with Aristo, you believe that Aristo hard defends me most of the first two days as my mafia team mate to attempt to spew me town, then places a lame duck placeholder vote on me in day three when my wagon already has been chugging along to try to earn town credit while making it pretty obvious. There's no world in the history of ever that, that's the case. I'm almost ready to just claim to stop this foolishness.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

@KAAG

Here's the issue I have with your argument.

Something_Smart, Ozgin, Slandaar = town
iraonavp, killthestory, Performer = prob!town
Guy/Replace, Yume, Kuroi, ilikebugs, DGB = unclear
Aristo, Frag = scummy
Drixx, FB = scum

Those are your most updated reads from your 1935

In the world where you think I'm mafia, alongside Drixx & Fire means you believe I as mafia would hard defend my partner Drixx throughout day one, day two & day three openly. It also means you believe I would hard defend Fire late day two, call him a PR which I read him as & then continue to express my belief that Fire is a PR & defend them into day three. Which is implausible & extremely dumb if I was actually mafia, which I'm not.

I find the fact you think you hard-defended Drixx laughable to the max. Two sentences saying he's vaguely towny?

Regarding FB:

Also there's no world in the world of ever that Fire is scum, based on his interaction with Aristo I mentioned earlier.

This is the only reference to FB you made late on D2 that I could see. Are you saying I should read this as you reading him as a PR?

OK. You're scum.

UNVOTE: Firebringer
VOTE: Fraggernaut

[Fraggernaut]

Want to cherry pick some more?

There's been several instances where I defended Drixx & called Fire a PR and said I wouldn't lynch that slot. Sorry your logic was busted and you have to try to fit things seemingly into a agenda.

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't think Fragger is scum.

I will not vote him.