New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)


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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 12:30 pm

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In post 1996, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:
In post 1995, Fraggernaut wrote:I read Drixx town
There's the issue.
No. You being an asshole who can't see the obvious and is insulting a PR who just handed scum to the game is the problem. But since I've been saying you're behaving like scum, and you've misrepped the fuck out of me, you're probably just mad that your buddy got outed.

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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 12:34 pm

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I don't fucking care VOTE: Irao
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 1:48 pm

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UNVOTE:
@Fragger: what made you not claim your result on iraonavp yesterday?
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 1:49 pm

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thats what i thought but when i think things the opposite is usually right and ive got a good feeling in my gut about this
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 2:16 pm

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In post 2002, Something_Smart wrote:UNVOTE:
@Fragger: what made you not claim your result on iraonavp yesterday?
I said it when I revealed, I was going to but wanted to see the interactions & pushes that were made, namely yours. That's also why I wanted to ISO to see what interactions you had with Irao based on that information. Plus I wanted another watch, to see if I could find out more information before I outted.
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 2:27 pm

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With 16 Alive, it's 9 to Lynch!



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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 2:28 pm

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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 3:24 pm

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I wanna hear iraon's response to the claim and the result.
If I'm modding your game, I'm sorry in advance. <3
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 4:57 pm

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Fraggernaut is lying and scum-aligned.

My role doesn't allow me to visit anyone.
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 4:59 pm

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It's obvious that he only claimed now because he was about to get lynched. He would've immediately claimed the result on day 2 if he was what he claims to be, especially after nobody wanted to lynch me.

I'm town ascetic enabler. So there is almost certainly an ascetic role in this setup.
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 5:00 pm

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In post 2008, iraonavp wrote:Fraggernaut is lying and scum-aligned.

My role doesn't allow me to visit anyone.
Bout the response I expected from a outted mafia or third party. Sorry better luck next time.
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 5:01 pm

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In post 806, iraonavp wrote:
In post 801, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 776, Fraggernaut wrote:Still think iraonvp is the better lynch today but we can't risk a no lynch.

VOTE: Reubus Swagrid

We can vig him. I didn't like his gratuitous power role hint. He's scum, too.
Don't vig me though. I am a PR of such extreme importance that it cannot be described in words. When I received my role PM, I could barely believe that the mods would add such a severely overpowered role into the game. On it's own my role could probably restore world peace.
This was a sarcastic semi-crumb.
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 5:02 pm

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In post 2009, iraonavp wrote:It's obvious that he only claimed now because he was about to get lynched. He would've immediately claimed the result on day 2 if he was what he claims to be, especially after nobody wanted to lynch me.

I'm town ascetic enabler. So there is almost certainly an ascetic role in this setup.
I didn't claim cause I wanted to see the push & interactions between yourself & Something_Smart, who I believe is your mafia partner, or you're just third party & Something_Smart is independently mafia. I am holding my claim, I hard claim & I will never rescind.
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 5:06 pm

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I've heard of a scum ascetic but I've never heard of a town ascetic enabler.
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 5:08 pm

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Okay so that's an interesting choice of defense. We have a claimed investigator and someone who rather than say they visited for good reasons claims they can't visit at all.

Proper move is to lynch the guilty and make scum kill the investigative role, correct? That's how I view it given that scum always lose trading 1-for-1 unless it's LYLO and getting a mislynch means it's not a trade and ummm... pretty sure we're not in that situation, so if Fragg is lying, he's trading himself 1-for-1, which is bad for scum. If he's telling the truth, we get scum today and scum have to spend a night kill on Fragg.

Simple risk vs. reward analysis says to lynch Iraonavp
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 5:12 pm

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He's not telling the truth though. Fraggernaut obviously wins trading 1-for-1 if he's going to be lynched anyway.
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 5:15 pm

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If he really wanted another night to use his ability and to attempt to get some kind of information about other players, then he would've claimed at the start of d3, not at L-2.
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 5:17 pm

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^ Correct.

Just read the claim. Too many over justifications, but I'll sheep the Guilty.
Ascetic are annoying anyway.

VOTE: Iraon

Uggh, this was at Drixx.
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 6:21 pm

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Why would I trade one for one since I know I'm town? I know you visited pisskop the night they died, & I used that information to discern someone else's alignment as well.
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:04 pm

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I don't know, but why would I kill pisskop since I know I'm town-aligned?
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:07 pm

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In post 2017, Aristophanes wrote:^ Correct.

Just read the claim. Too many over justifications, but I'll sheep the Guilty.
Ascetic are annoying anyway.

VOTE: Iraon

Uggh, this was at Drixx.
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Do you even think that I'm scum-aligned?

You sound like you don't believe it even here.
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:08 pm

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In post 2019, iraonavp wrote:I don't know, but why would I kill pisskop since I know I'm town-aligned?
Well, if we go by the theory that you are town aligned, you wouldn't because your role has no visiting/killing aspect.
So it is only if you are lying, and thus scum, that you could have killed him.
Therefore this post is pointless.
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:09 pm

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In post 2020, iraonavp wrote:
In post 2017, Aristophanes wrote:^ Correct.

Just read the claim. Too many over justifications, but I'll sheep the Guilty.
Ascetic are annoying anyway.

VOTE: Iraon

Uggh, this was at Drixx.
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Do you even think that I'm scum-aligned?

You sound like you don't believe it even here.
Not by play really.
But I tend to sheep claimed guilties, and I see no reason not to in this instance.
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:10 pm

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In post 2012, Fraggernaut wrote:I am holding my claim, I hard claim & I will never rescind.

There is no way Fraggernaut would say this if he was telling the truth.
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 8:11 pm

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In post 2021, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2019, iraonavp wrote:I don't know, but why would I kill pisskop since I know I'm town-aligned?
Well, if we go by the theory that you are town aligned, you wouldn't because your role has no visiting/killing aspect.
So it is only if you are lying, and thus scum, that you could have killed him.
Therefore this post is pointless.

Indeed. I was drawing a comparison to this post:
In post 2018, Fraggernaut wrote:Why would I trade one for one since I know I'm town? I know you visited pisskop the night they died, & I used that information to discern someone else's alignment as well.

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