Mini 1783: GTA 2 Mafia (GaME OVAH)
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand Idea
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In post 1300, Ircher wrote:Srry, I was thinking Magna was lying about his role.
Well in your defense - I was."I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.-
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In post 1302, Ircher wrote:My role sucks... I should've realized this outcome but wasnt thinking ahead when I let Masq get lynched; I should've thought ahead.
Well in your defense you weren't possibly imagining 2 Serial Killers I would guess."I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.-
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In post 1305, Ircher wrote:Indeedd.I really did expect you to be survivor with sk remainingor sk fakeclaiming with Dwlee as town.
True but if you thought the bolded was a possibility then you shouldn't have voted me right out of the box.
Just sayin'"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.-
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Sorry town; I screwed this up in ignorance. I should've listened to Masq but figured town had an extra day and Bully didn't seem to make real sense to me. (Though, I never played GTA before, so maybe it was valid; it just didnt seem like it would match the theme)-
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You didn't screw up. At all. Both SKs lead the game laterly.
lots of kudos for dwlee. I'm making a big post now, I'll post all my thoughts along very soonIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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This day was gruesome. Stuff happened quickly.
It appears one of the regular brawlers in the bars drank too much. He's had a "who's got the biggest dick" competition with his pal, and, well, sadly - he's got it.
He's gotten in to a full-retard kill frenzy, trying to completely down every single man in the bar.
Luckily for everyone who isn't him, the crowd overwhelmed him and lynched him the fuck out.
..But when the cops arrived to the scene, there was already nobody guilty to be found...
Dwlee99, the third-party Serial Killer "Wang Car Bonus!" has endgamed Ircher, the Reflexive Friendly Neighbour "GTA2 Banner #19 of the Residential District!".
Day 5 and the game is over.
DWLEE99 HAS WON THE GAME ALONE!!!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Dead thread:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=66283
Zaibatsu Scum PT:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=66043
Mod topic:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=65962
Roles in the game: [short version - role PMs below]
Spoiler: Roles
Role PMs:
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Spoiler: Scum Boss
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Spoiler: Scum Mute
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Spoiler: Wang Car Bonus SK
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Spoiler: Kill Frenzy SK
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Spoiler: Disrespectful Behaviour-motivated Yakuza Gangster-lyncher-vig-dayvig-BP-lol
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Spoiler: Reflexive friendly neighbour (GTA2 Banner)
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Spoiler: Rolecop and ability thief, Taxi Traitor Test
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Spoiler: 2xRoleblocker, Alma Maters Prison Bully
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Spoiler: Burn Immune force-commuter and roleblocker (train)
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Spoiler: Sewers (watcher)
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Spoiler: Armored townie, 2-BP
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Spoiler: RESPECT!!!! Untargetable
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Spoiler: Reflexive poisoner - ELECTROFINGERZ
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Night actions:
N1:
Blackstar targets The Banterlords[=dwlee]. Result: Roleblock doesn't matter, but the slot is protected (commuted)
MOI kills Ranger. Result: success, Ranger dies.
Ranger watched DK - but he's dead :S
Masquerade roleblocks BBT and ARS - this means nothing
FA_Q2 targets DK - HOLY MOMMA! Result: FA_Q2 now has a dayvig and a delayed nightvig, one of which can be made strongman. w00t!
DK torches Polar. Result - he's set on fire...and is poisoned!
Dom kills DK! with a strongman, so the poison doesn't matter much!
D2:
FAQ2 dayvigs BBT, strongmanly, pierces through the armor!
N2:
Blackstar force-commutes Dwlee. This time it prevents a kill on...
Dwlee tries to kill Masquerade. BLOCKED!!!
Polar keeps burning.
Masquerade punches MOI, but oh, wrong night! he's on the odd ones!
FAQ decides not to vig another time and he cops Blackstar, so he now earns force-commute ability.
N3:
Masquerade punches Ircher and FAQ2.
Ircher loses his BPness but Masquerade now knows he is conftown.
Magna kills FAQ2.
N4:
Dwlee finally kills Blackstar.
Blackstar commutes magna! wrong SK bro!
D5: Blackstar finally takes his invulnerability pill but....he's already won.
GAME OVER.
===================In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Yeah, uhm... Having 2 sks in a game was completely unexpected.
I'm not sure how you could specify such in role madness without compromising them, but I do believe town needed to be more aware of the faction distribution.
Also, no one expects 2 SKs esp. when they have even/odd kill modifiers.-
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shos Survivor
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My thoughts:
First of all, thank you to everyone who participated in the game. a 50-page mini is respectful, even if days were short . And a 10-paged dead thread..
(you can see some in the mod PT as the game got along)
1. Dwlee totally deserves the win. Somehow, he managed to go under the radar of EVERYONE. I think only Magna eventually realized it, probably after FAQ2's death - until then he was sure there was a traitor!. This is remarkable - he did not even need his abiility. Like, literally, he could win this game with only his even-night shot, despite managing to use it only once.
2. MoI is brilliat. I incredibly enjoyed watching him play, along with the PMs I got from him. He also spotted the scumslip by Dom, and chose not to kill him, only to utilize this for towncred later when lynching. BTW I noticed that slip first His fault was claiming a survivor. If he just claimed informed townie, with easy flavor - police informant - He may very well have won the game.
3. which brings us to - I didn't give fakeclaims. Next game (GTA3 or GTASA) I will explicitly do that. I expected the scum and SKs to do some reserch - there is LOADS of gta information on google, there are multiple wikis, etc. Sadly, that didn't happen, and claims were subpar.
4. I have no idea how Titus got ran up D1. at all. When she finally claimed VT, I knew it was the end, because despite site meta, VT claims often get lynched, and especially in a role madness it is a safe lynch. Shoulda thought this better.
5. Completely and utterly disappointed from two people: Dom and Jeanne. I'm not letting Jeanne into more of my games. lurksack in multiple events. Dom said he sucks playing scum, and that is kinda a trust tell, so he should work on that or this can compromise his game everywhere. His play was lurky, bad, slipping and not deserving the extremely awesome role he got.
6. The endgame was exihilerating (sp?). I ENJOYED SO MUCH. The quicklynches hurt town - as they always do - but the maneuvers MoI has gotten into to push town towards it were amazing. Dwlee again slipped under everyone and supported all mislynches. Town was in ALL the wrong directions - like - there was one night where town roleblocked three different townies with 4 alive! like whut!
7..talking about which - I can't understand how no crosskills, no interruptions, almost nothing in this entore role madness worked against any of the scum factions. Except for Dwlee's kill being blocked, which would hit town anyway, this was amazing. Town's nightly choices were opposite of what they should have been, and it was really funny, like an even night SK being blocked on all odd nights and the odd nights SK being blocked on even nights xD
8.The GTA2 banner didn't get used much, and so did the poison not. But it was fine regardless of this. Blackstar proved to be the main town power, and he just missed the nights on the SKs sometimes.
9. DK's role was clearly the most swingy role in the setup. The target was a random town. They pushed the lyncher part soooooo vehemently that it hurt town. I was impressed at the start, it could definitely work and make them town's best asset - but Jeanne got replaced and Ranger played beautifully. BEAUTIFULLY. If DK was more pointed to finding scum, and LATER making sure his target gets dead, he would have better chances. BUT, this definitely was the hardest role in the game, and in hindsight, it is probably too hard. I mean, if target is lynched, then it only has to outlive Dom and Titus - not the SKs. if target dies in some other way - then he has to outlive the SKs too, which makes him just a townie, but a townie who has to survive. they did have a BP, though. I dunno.
Overall, the setup is balanced in my opinion. it is a mindfuck for EVERYONE, and it came out brilliantly. The gameplay was awesome.
I thank you all for joining. I loved modding, making the flavor and all. Wouldn't have been as fun if you guys didn't give me a beautiful game to read.
Thank you!In post 836, Lucky2u said:
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In post 1316, Ircher wrote:Yeah, uhm... Having 2 sks in a game was completely unexpected.
I'm not sure how you could specify such in role madness without compromising them, but I do believe town needed to be more aware of the faction distribution.
Also, no one expects 2 SKs esp. when they have even/odd kill modifiers.
Well, I did flip the scum showing that there were 2. Town should have expected at least one SK. If they all cooperated with night actions, you could easily plan to roleblock everyone and all. It wouldn't give you a win for sure, but it would help, and once one SK dies, you'd all know that another one is out by the odd/even-night flip.
Nay. I disagree. I don't see how that lynch happened, too!In post 1317, Ircher wrote:Regarding Kling's lynch: The flavor made sense, but such a role seemed way more useful for scum.
In post 1319, Ircher wrote:Correect play for me would actually to vote no lynch and basically veto any other lynch besides myself.
Dwlee still wouldve won though if he got Magna to lynch me.
That wouldn't matter.
Fun speculations re: this lylo
1. if you nolynched:
then Dwlee would shoot magna, but magna is 1sBP so another 3p lylo. If another nolynch, or lynch on Ircher, then magna shoorts Dwlee and wins; if an SK is lynched the other wins.
2. if you lynched Dwlee:
he took his invulnerability pill, which means he'd avoid death. At night, if he shot magna - magna is BP and same 3p lylo again as before. if he shot you, then 1v1 day ends in nolynch and magna shoots him, magna wins. if he doesn't shoot at all - even better 3p lylo for magna, lol.
3. if you lynched Ircher - same as lynching Dwlee and he shoots you. Magna wins.
so lolzIn post 836, Lucky2u said:
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Ircher He / Him / HisWhat A Grand Idea
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