Mini 1784: Mafia Z – Game Over

[Fate]

I'm home now so let me lay it out for you real slow so that your vote me is basically claiming scum KTS:

FIRST WE HAVE THIS:

Here are some things I

can

say:

1) I'm not seeing how it's auto-town-win. If KTS flips town, the last mafia can simply NK. Then RC and I still have a 50/50 between SC and Fate.

2) The town can win while I am still alive. Lynching me does not advance the town's win condition.

3) I apologize in advance Fate. You're just a little too talkative

VOTE: Killthestory

Zefiend has jailkept KTS, there was no kill, KTS=scum because as Sir Cakez said scum nokilling last night is a misplay.

I was fine with this, I was fine with lynching KTS, Zefiend started crumbing some 3rd party shit and RC wanted him to full claim which I agreed needed to happen, so I voted him.

[Fate]

I can't say any more, so have fun with that. If I get lynched, you die toNight and then town has a 1/3 chance to win.

KTS lynch today, SC lynch tomorrow, 67% town win. Probably 100 unless Fate is scum, then I ain't even mad.

SC lynch today, +\- 50% town win.

Voting me is playing to the worst odds. You will be responsible for tanking one of the best town starts ever into the shitter.

The fuck is going on in not home


Don't lynch ANYONE until I'm caught up

I strongly encourage you to vote KTS as soon as possible.

It may not matter, but if it does matter, it will be crucially important as long as RC continues being stubborn.

Here is Zefiend pushing to lynch KTS harder, wanting him to be lynched because it is the simplest explanation of KTS being the last mafia and was stopped from killing.

[Fate]

VOTE: Unvote

We are not lynching KTS. We are lynching one of Fate or SC today, and the other tomorrow.

I now know with 100% certainty that I was the attempted night kill. The mafia must have thought that I interfere with their win condition. Bad for me cuz I got shot, but good for the town as a whole if you choose to believe me.

It actually is an auto-win for town as long as you don't waste a misslynch on me. KTS is clear, and RC is clear.

And stop asking me to fucking claim. If any of you could read between the lines you'd realize why I haven't claimed. I've been crumbling everywhere though, as early as D2.

THEN THIS HAPPENS??


What happened between those two posts which changed?

What happened during the DAY that changed Zefiend from "I jailkept killing scum last night" to "I 100% know I was the kill"

Nothing, there's no role that gets delayed information like that that I've ever heard of.

So if nothing changed then Zefiend went from KTS being scum to KTS being clear because he was NKd while KTS was jailkept???

[Fate]

The only thing I can think of is Zefiend does not win when the last mafia is dead (highly likely KTS given his complete refusal to understand that Zefiend is lying here)

So he switched into a mislynch of me and that puts town in prisoner's dillema tomorrow

[ɀefiend]

VOTE: Unvote

We are not lynching KTS. We are lynching one of Fate or SC today, and the other tomorrow.

I now know with 100% certainty that I was the attempted night kill. The mafia must have thought that I interfere with their win condition. Bad for me cuz I got shot, but good for the town as a whole if you choose to believe me.

It actually is an auto-win for town as long as you don't waste a misslynch on me. KTS is clear, and RC is clear.

And stop asking me to fucking claim. If any of you could read between the lines you'd realize why I haven't claimed. I've been crumbling everywhere though, as early as D2.

THEN THIS HAPPENS??


What happened between those two posts which changed?

What happened during the DAY that changed Zefiend from "I jailkept killing scum last night" to "I 100% know I was the kill"

Nothing, there's no role that gets delayed information like that that I've ever heard of.

So if nothing changed then Zefiend went from KTS being scum to KTS being clear because he was NKd while KTS was jailkept???

Maybe something DID happen during the day.

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[Fate]

I don't speak Alien Zefiend

[SirCakez]

Zefiend is basically claiming Third Party Jailkeeper that wins with town, has a post restriction not to talk about their claim, and is told in the middle of the day they were attacked.

What the fuck?

[Fate]

yeah its 8 kinds of horseshit, but he's very definitely not mafia

Given you actually reading the same game as me it has to be KTS

[Killthestory]

lol has to be me

dude are you reading. if he's definitely not mafia why would he lie about being attacked LOL

[Fate]

Like I said he probably doesn't win with town so he has to lynch town today and then prisoner's dill-

wait why am I talking to scum

Vote: Killthestory

[SirCakez]

If you think he doesn't win with town then why don't you want to lynch him?

[Killthestory]

what the fuck LOL

You realize that IF HE WANTS TO LYNCH TOWN HED JUST LIE ABOUT HIS RESULTS LOL. That means that hed have to have lied on me since his jailkeep could have been on anyone.

[Fate]

Well if for some reason its you SirCakez and KTS Is just pants on head clownmode, its 3p lylo tomorrow

Do you think Zefiend has a kill?

[Fate]

HE HAS BEEN LYING ABOUT HIS RESULTS I THINK IVE FUCKING PROVED THAT GIVEN HIS VOTE HISTORY AND HIS CLAIM TODAY

[Killthestory]

fate you are flailing so hard omg you literally make no sense rn

[Fate]

ITT:

Fate-Here let me lay it all out on the table so we can put the pieces together
KTS-LOLYOUMAKENOSENSEWORDSOWRDSWORDS FLAILMOAR

[Killthestory]

kek

[ɀefiend]

I don't speak Alien Zefiend

Nice straw man.

[ɀefiend]

yeah its 8 kinds of horseshit, but he's very definitely not mafia

Given you actually reading the same game as me it has to be KTS

Except that you must not have read the part where KTS is un-cc'd bright lighted, and I am of knowledgable mind that I was the night kill target, which clears KTS and leaves the last scum between you and SC.

[ɀefiend]

HE HAS BEEN LYING ABOUT HIS RESULTS I THINK IVE FUCKING PROVED THAT GIVEN HIS VOTE HISTORY AND HIS CLAIM TODAY

I don't have any "results" to speak of, nor have I lied about *anything* this game.

I have made inferential statements and votes based on knowledge that has arisen over the course of this game, and Day.

[RadiantCowbells]

I say we lynch KTS and you claim your jailkeep before night.

[Killthestory]

no thats stupid since fate is p clearly scum flailing rn rc omg

[ɀefiend]

Oh and if you're lynched today and happen to be town, town will still win if the virtue that "if mafia are unable to NK indefinitely, then the threat to the town is neutralized and therefore town wins" holds true on this site. On another forum I used to play on, the game went on for like six Days before the mod decided to award Town the win. I can't remember how it works on Epicmafia but I think they have a 50 Day limit and then everyone gets half points or something.

Could be interesting decision for zakk if it gets to that point.

[Fate]

Zefiend there is no way you vote KTS with the information you are claiming to have

there is no way that information "comes" to you during the day for mysterious reasons by posting alien codes

[Fate]

Did you post D2 to see if you were the NK target that I assume werewolves missed?