Mini 1792: Baccano! Mafia [Game Over]

[Thor665]

isn't essentially a policy lynch

What's wrong with a policy lynch?

[Thor665]

Because he also feigned being 3P, and I thought he had essentially claimed it at one point.
Like, through the night phase, I was kicking myself for being on that wagon, not because I didn't think it was a good one, but because Nahdia was a better one. She flipped town too though, so...

He was acting scummy , essentially claimed 3P, and refused to work with us. I don't know why he did it.

So it's laughably bad that people believed Camn's claim of an investigative role, but it makes sense to think Fate claimed 3rd party in response to it?
How does that make sense?

[Nosferatu]

isn't essentially a policy lynch

What's wrong with a policy lynch?

I don't like to lynch people for non alignment indicative things if I can help it.

[Nosferatu]

btw this is probably why tsuki started calling Fate conf 3p, since after this is when he starts referring to him as such.

Staeg there's uh

a few things that would interfere with my ability to read Katsuki.

THis game unfortunately includes one of them

We can lynch White Light or Thor.

Unvote:
Vote: White Light

Thor will probably have less traction and he's a slippery son of a bitch, so here we are

LOOK AT THIS BACKTRACK LMAO

FATE SCUM WOULDNT BACKTRACK LIKE THIS
AND FATE TOWN WOULD NEVER HAVE PUSHED US IN THE FIRST PLACE

G FUCKING G

[Nosferatu]

2) He said something about not giving in to his ghoul nature and eating. That is CLEARLY a joke. There is no argument that can be made that he intended that be interpreted as a claim to be Szilard.

This argument, unlike the defense of camn's terrible play, goes far beyond semantics alone.

SHUT THE FUCK UP ISSAC

OOPS CATS OUTTA THE BAG NOW

WE ARE ISSAC
TOWN BAD DRIVER

ONCE DURING THE GAME, WE MAY CHOOSE TO CRASH OUR CAR INTO A PLAYER
WE WILL BE NOTIFIED IF IT IS SZILARD

LYNCH AHOY

This is also pretty obviously a joke.
He literally just claimed to be the person that fate referred to him as. Exactly what happened when fate talked about refusing to eat after tsuki said it would be funny to lynch him before he had the opportunity to. These have the same progression but you reached different conclusions for essentially no reason.

[Aristophanes]

Because he also feigned being 3P, and I thought he had essentially claimed it at one point.
Like, through the night phase, I was kicking myself for being on that wagon, not because I didn't think it was a good one, but because Nahdia was a better one. She flipped town too though, so...

He was acting scummy , essentially claimed 3P, and refused to work with us. I don't know why he did it.

So it's laughably bad that people believed Camn's claim of an investigative role, but it makes sense to think Fate claimed 3rd party in response to it?
How does that make sense?

It made sense to me at the time, and I thought it was a legit claim.

[Cerberus v666]

2) He said something about not giving in to his ghoul nature and eating. That is CLEARLY a joke. There is no argument that can be made that he intended that be interpreted as a claim to be Szilard.

This argument, unlike the defense of camn's terrible play, goes far beyond semantics alone.

SHUT THE FUCK UP ISSAC

OOPS CATS OUTTA THE BAG NOW

WE ARE ISSAC
TOWN BAD DRIVER

ONCE DURING THE GAME, WE MAY CHOOSE TO CRASH OUR CAR INTO A PLAYER
WE WILL BE NOTIFIED IF IT IS SZILARD

LYNCH AHOY

This is also pretty obviously a joke.
He literally just claimed to be the person that fate referred to him as. Exactly what happened when fate talked about refusing to eat after tsuki said it would be funny to lynch him before he had the opportunity to. These have the same progression but you reached different conclusions for essentially no reason.

Touche. I completely missed the context that turned his claim into potentially a joke. I also gave a lot more weight to the idea of fates post being a joke because be was at l-1 or so when he made it, the time the real szilard would have surely attempted to eat someone.

[camntsuki]

We were pretty convinced that Fate would flip 3rd Party.
joke-claims are Katz/Fate site meta FYI.
if you wanna push a Lynch on us because Fate flailed, go ahead and try. If you wanna talk about it forever though .. gods maybe let the Vig handle us instead.

PS, was that a Vig shot? or did the "best friends" die together lover-style?

[Florestan]

Ftr I thought he was sliLizard obviously

[heuristically_alone]

Why Heuristically Alone over Camn?
Camn is a filthy liar, so there's that.

For the record, I kinda don't care if we lose because of this, because fuck fake guilties from town.

VOTE: camntsuki

It was Fate's fault for trying to out our role!

And Fate implicitly claimed 3p. Your push is bad, and is a good place for us to start as we head out for the day to drink.

VOTE: cerberus

It's amazing how little I care what you want. You would be astonished, really.

Unvote: Camn
Vote: Cerberus

Did you forget that Cerberus claimed page one? Even if Cerb didn't care about the game, we shouldn't just vote out someone that is more likely town

[Thor665]

isn't essentially a policy lynch

What's wrong with a policy lynch?

I don't like to lynch people for non alignment indicative things if I can help it.

I have never seen a policy lynch applied to anything that isn't excessive lurking, lying, or solid anti-town play.
If someone is actively playing in a way that benefits scum (which is why it's called anti-town) isn't that alignment indicative of them being less likely town?

Because he also feigned being 3P, and I thought he had essentially claimed it at one point.
Like, through the night phase, I was kicking myself for being on that wagon, not because I didn't think it was a good one, but because Nahdia was a better one. She flipped town too though, so...

He was acting scummy , essentially claimed 3P, and refused to work with us. I don't know why he did it.

So it's laughably bad that people believed Camn's claim of an investigative role, but it makes sense to think Fate claimed 3rd party in response to it?
How does that make sense?

It made sense to me at the time, and I thought it was a legit claim.

But if you found Camn a joke, why did you think Fate's claim made sense?

PS, was that a Vig shot? or did the "best friends" die together lover-style?

I already offered my thoughts on this - what are yours?

Did you forget that Cerberus claimed page one? Even if Cerb didn't care about the game, we shouldn't just vote out someone that is more likely town

I didn't forget it, I still never read it - why do you think it makes him more likely town than not?

[Nosferatu]

isn't essentially a policy lynch

What's wrong with a policy lynch?

I don't like to lynch people for non alignment indicative things if I can help it.

I have never seen a policy lynch applied to anything that isn't excessive lurking, lying, or solid anti-town play.
If someone is actively playing in a way that benefits scum (which is why it's called anti-town) isn't that alignment indicative of them being less likely town?

No. There are townies that just act in anti town ways. Policy lynches are just lynches for a reason other than the content of their posts. Something better if avoided.

[Aristophanes]

We were pretty convinced that Fate would flip 3rd Party.
joke-claims are Katz/Fate site meta FYI.
if you wanna push a Lynch on us because Fate flailed, go ahead and try. If you wanna talk about it forever though .. gods maybe let the Vig handle us instead.

PS, was that a Vig shot? or did the "best friends" die together lover-style?

I'd have to assume a Vig shot, based on the PMs.

[heuristically_alone]

So one town lynch and 2 town kills day one. This isn't turning out well

Thanks for that update, I was unaware of this information.

We all appreciate the sarcasm

[heuristically_alone]

Did you forget that Cerberus claimed page one? Even if Cerb didn't care about the game, we shouldn't just vote out someone that is more likely townI didn't forget it, I still never read it - why do you think it makes him more likely town than not?

I find that when someone claims immediately right at the beginning and there is no counter claim, they are most likely town. Would you disagree?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: heuristically_alone

[Nosferatu]

Did you forget that Cerberus claimed page one? Even if Cerb didn't care about the game, we shouldn't just vote out someone that is more likely townI didn't forget it, I still never read it - why do you think it makes him more likely town than not?

I find that when someone claims immediately right at the beginning and there is no counter claim, they are most likely town. Would you disagree?

Ascetic is a modifier, not alignment indicative at all. Scum can have a modifier as well as town.

[Staeg]

Did you forget that Cerberus claimed page one? Even if Cerb didn't care about the game, we shouldn't just vote out someone that is more likely townI didn't forget it, I still never read it - why do you think it makes him more likely town than not?

I find that when someone claims immediately right at the beginning and there is no counter claim, they are most likely town. Would you disagree?

Do you know what an ascetic is?

[Aristophanes]

^ Lol

[Dwlee99]

HI OK GAME IS BACK I CAN END THIS WITHDRAWL

[Thor665]

No. There are townies that just act in anti town ways. Policy lynches are just lynches for a reason other than the content of their posts. Something better if avoided.

So we can agree that the player plays in a way that hurts town when they are town, and hurts town when they are scum.
I fail to see how the idea of lynching them then doesn't pay attention to the content of their posts.
If a player is hurting my wincon, then they're a good lynch, yeah?

I find that when someone claims immediately right at the beginning and there is no counter claim, they are most likely town. Would you disagree?

Depends on the claim.
I am willing to accept that they are ascetic if you'd like - but I don't see why that should inform me of their alignment. Clarify?

[The Daily Days]

Official Vote Count

Cerberus v666

(2): camntsuki, Thor665

heuristically_alone

(2): Staeg, Dwlee99

AlpacaAlpaca

(1): Florestan

camntsuki

(1): Cerberus v666

Not Voting

(4): Nosferatu, heuristically_alone, AlpacaAlpaca, Aristophanes

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Yay~ we're back. It appears the server is once again safe from tiger attacks. Adding 2 days to deadline.

[Nosferatu]

No. There are townies that just act in anti town ways. Policy lynches are just lynches for a reason other than the content of their posts. Something better if avoided.

So we can agree that the player plays in a way that hurts town when they are town, and hurts town when they are scum.
I fail to see how the idea of lynching them then doesn't pay attention to the content of their posts.
If a player is hurting my wincon, then they're a good lynch, yeah?

not exactly, I'm not saying you shouldn't policy lynch. If kaintepes was in this game, I'd be all for lynching him. My argument is they shouldn't be prioritized over an actual lynch.

[Cerberus v666]

No. There are townies that just act in anti town ways. Policy lynches are just lynches for a reason other than the content of their posts. Something better if avoided.

So we can agree that the player plays in a way that hurts town when they are town, and hurts town when they are scum.
I fail to see how the idea of lynching them then doesn't pay attention to the content of their posts.
If a player is hurting my wincon, then they're a good lynch, yeah?

not exactly, I'm not saying you shouldn't policy lynch. If kaintepes was in this game, I'd be all for lynching him. My argument is they shouldn't be prioritized over an actual lynch.

What is the actual lynch you're suggesting we prioritize over camn?

[camntsuki]

I'm back, bitches!

Listen- you know what's anti-town? camntsuki getting nightkilled night 1. So we avoid it.
That said- everyone talking about a policy lynch or whatever...

THIS GAME HAS A VIG.

I love policy lynches. Like for lurking. Or if you don't have an avatar. But

NOT IN A GAME WITH A VIG

.

So somebody needs to get their head out of the sand and get back to lynching people you think are actually scum.

VOTE: Cerberus v666

Also, come on, dude. Get an avatar.