Mini 1787: Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (Game End!)
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like the fact that I got hard tunneled on by two town; RC and Zach (and Zach tunneled onto me again when we're both town)In post 1950, Creature wrote:Like what?
And the fact that yes, I made a big case outting Zach as doc using evidence (I was wrong though but blame Zach) which basically shows that there's no way I would've missed Jake's cop tells here-
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Heh.In post 1952, Dunnstral wrote:like the fact that I got hard tunneled on by two town; RC and Zach (and Zach tunneled onto me again when we're both town)
The difference is that you didn't decide to fakeclaim at that game.And the fact that yes, I made a big case outting Zach as doc using evidence (I was wrong though but blame Zach) which basically shows that there's no way I would've missed Jake's cop tells here-
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Obviously I'm not going to fake claim every game. Also I was cop so.....In post 1953, Creature wrote:The difference is that you didn't decide to fakeclaim at that game.
Digging around in my last game isn't going to help you, saying "I didn't fake claim that other game" is true but doesn't have bearing on this game in the first place-
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maybe it is just creature/xy
mostly because why the fuck do both scum jump down dunn's throat?
i feel shitty about turning around on jaack now but holy shit have his pushes been mechanical
but it makes sense more with xy starting to posture up on jaack once he got traction if creature is scum i think-
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I think I was misunderstanding part of the interaction that was going on when I made my post about toolenduso last night--partially because I was speedreading through about 6 new pages of posts. I do think that anyone who had a strong reason to believe that Dunnstral was a cop day 2 would have killed him as scum, and toolenduso is the most obvious person to fill that role.
I never got as far in my logic yesterday as deciding that Dunnstral might be a cop yesterday; I knew that one of his statements had to be incorrect, but I was having a hard time working out which one, and I didn't try to work all the way through the logical implications of both.
I believe Bins' claim; I think it would've been a completely pointless claim if she were scum, and I find her crumbing plausibly real.
I agree with the statement someone made that Creature's reads post (1868) feels like it says very little. most of the game so far I've felt that Keyser was probably town, though, so I don't really like the idea of a Creature lynch right now.
I read through Jaack's ISO and felt like the shift against Dunnstral wasn't as strong as others seemed to imply it was.
anyway I still don't think Dunnstral is scum-
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Well, despite the lack of votes, he was genuinely pushing in D1. He can be considered passive at D2, the way he was focused on h_a posts points he wanted to scum hunt by association.In post 1914, toolenduso wrote:One thing I do note is just how little voting Keyser did in this game.
Low-activity isn't very accurate, he could be busy or just not in a good mood to play mafia game. Seeing he stated he would replace out if he didn't finish his post, I believe it must be one of it.And how low-activity he was too.
Would like to see that game.That does go against what I remember of his town game,
How did you reach to that conclusion?and Creature's entrance today fits scum very well.
And if I don't?I am thinking atm that if Creature flips scum then Jaack would be less likely to be partner -- in which case I think I'd be looking at xyzzy based on PoE.-
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As I can see, most of the discussion involves me being scum, which is totally wrong.In post 1956, Dunnstral wrote:Also you're ignoring discussion on the game at hand-
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Bins was the most obvious by far I'd have to sayIn post 1959, xyzzy wrote:I do think that anyone who had a strong reason to believe that Dunnstral was a cop day 2 would have killed him as scum, and toolenduso is the most obvious person to fill that role.
What about you? Did you notice it? Why were you asking about my vanilla town claim on day 2 and talking about it like I had info?-
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I've browsed through all pages before I replaced in.In post 1957, Tyler the Creator wrote:creature have you read the game in full because it doesn't really seem like you have tbh-
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K I think I get your logic now Tyler. I don't find it all that convincing but I get it, and mainly I just wanted it explained publicly.
Yeah, it does seem that way. Which makes this post:In post 1957, Tyler the Creator wrote:creature have you read the game in full because it doesn't really seem like you have tbh
...confusing. It looks like he's saying he knew that Dunn was gambiting, but for some reason still asked people if they think Dunn could be cop.In post 1937, Tyler the Creator wrote:I noticed you were gambiting, but I find it hard to come from a town!you.
I also realized something else about this from Dunn:
...if scum had an investigative role and checked you N1, they could have known you weren't an investigative. So then scum could have still kept you alive N2 even if they picked up on your cop/VT thing.In post 1775, Dunnstral wrote:Looks like xyzzy definitely suspected that I was cop with an inno on robert from the bolded part. That's why I think they could actually be town here"Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437-
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I believe that.In post 1965, Creature wrote:
I've browsed through all pages before I replaced in.In post 1957, Tyler the Creator wrote:creature have you read the game in full because it doesn't really seem like you have tbh
But then you got your scum role pm and haven't paid attention to current events?-
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Wait that reminds meIn post 1966, toolenduso wrote:...if scum had an investigative role and checked you N1, they could have known you weren't an investigative. So then scum could have still kept you alive N2 even if they picked up on your cop/VT thing.
Because of bins being on me I can know I was for sure not roleblocked, so it would have to be an investigative role there instead
That was my thinking of jaack being suspicious if that were true-
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oh wait i get it that was something creature said and you mis-pasted my name somehow?
and yea that's an alright point
pretty down to lynch creature i think
also xy's waffle on creature doesn't look good just now considering they didn't give any other scumreads and basically called everyone else town lol-
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Huh? No.In post 1967, Dunnstral wrote:
I believe that.In post 1965, Creature wrote:
I've browsed through all pages before I replaced in.In post 1957, Tyler the Creator wrote:creature have you read the game in full because it doesn't really seem like you have tbh
But then you got your scum role pm and haven't paid attention to current events?-
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Yeah, weird. That post was by Creature. No idea how you wound up in there.In post 1969, Tyler the Creator wrote:you have something quoted in post 1937 that i didn't even say tool
I mean, yeah, possibly. Or it could be that he, like some people on this site, just doesn't like playing scum very much or feels awkward doing it and so he didn't post much. I haven't done a meta dive or anything, but I do know it's different than what I know of his town game.In post 1960, Creature wrote:Low-activity isn't very accurate, he could be busy or just not in a good mood to play mafia game. Seeing he stated he would replace out if he didn't finish his post
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=63716In post 1960, Creature wrote:Would like to see that game.
You came in and hopped on Dunn, who was lynchbait but there were two other people willing to vote Dunn so not like you'd be autolynched for it. Then you doubtcast on Bins' claim and set up Jaack as a possible lynch despite him also voting Dunn.In post 1960, Creature wrote:
How did you reach to that conclusion?and Creature's entrance today fits scum very well.
Probably jaack.In post 1960, Creature wrote:
And if I don't?I am thinking atm that if Creature flips scum then Jaack would be less likely to be partner -- in which case I think I'd be looking at xyzzy based on PoE."Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437-
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Not sure what you mean, why would that make jaack suspicious?In post 1968, Dunnstral wrote:Because of bins being on me I can know I was for sure not roleblocked, so it would have to be an investigative role there instead
That was my thinking of jaack being suspicious if that were true"Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437
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