All Make your role PMs have been sent. Please submit your role by 48 hours after this post, which is 1:30 am EDT (UTC-4), or in (expired on 2016-05-22 01:30:00).
Please take note that this PM only determines the alignment of the role you make, and is not related to your actual alignment in the game.
Just to clarify, everyone should receive two PMs, one called "Role PM", and the other called "Your role". The role you are this game is the one titled "Role PM", and a sample role PM of the role you submitted is the one titled "Your role". You need to confirm to only "Role PM", not "Your role". Sorry for any confusion.
In the interest of full disclosure I'm going to come out and say that I was The one who requested the role on for the role we made. I did it because I submitted a role that I assumed was too OP/broken so I submitted a second and third alternative simultaneously each getting more normal. I was curious which of my roles got used.
It also gave me some good setup information. From the changes made to the role I submitted it appears any innocent-child-esque roles submitted will have the mod-confirmed-alignment features removed to facilitate game-wide meta of any role being eligible to be mafia without any difference between mafia and town versions of the role. Either that or my role was chosen for mirroring to mafia and therefore lost its alignment confirming abilities. Of anyone else made any role that confirms a town alignment, and the sample role pm they received still confirms a town alignment, please correct me?
An an unrelated note, I see no harm in everyone claiming the role they made to make the setup semi-open, no? Anyone disagree?
I love this format. And I agree with maruchan, I prefer and open setup if at all possible. The only problem I can see is if one of the people who made a mafia role is on the mafia team, in which case they'll be able to lie with impunity.
I made the hilariously impotent treestump role. Enjoy, everyone.
I'm against claiming what we made for a few reasons. First, it tells scum what is likely in the game and gives them a pool of viable fake claims. Even if they have fake claims, this tells them what PRs cannot be in the setup (as no one made them). Third, mafia would have to take a risk on being outed as not matching a submission if they claimed something not their role.
Only the scum role-makers should claim what they made in my opinion so Town knows whatnto expect in terms of scum power but scum won't know what to expect in terms of Town's power.
I'm one of the people who created a scum role. I made a mafia JOAT with several 1-shot abilities:
Role cop
Strongman
Roleblocker
Ninja
Vanillaiser (can't be used N1)
From the returned version of the role I can also tell you scum have Daychat.
In post 15, Titus wrote:Maru, no response to me saying fuck you on massclaim of submissions?
VOTE: Maru
Maybe that will get your attention.
VOTE: Maru
You didn't say duck you. I asked if everyone likes the idea, you answered with a solid opinion and we'll logic'd reasoning. I'm waiting for input from everyone on my inquiry, and after I receive it, I will 33rd evaluate my opinion on if I should advocate group-pressuring you into it (like if every other player was for it for example), or conceding to the logic of not forcing the issue of multiple people have we'll reasoned arguments against it. It's called being reasonable. I understand it may be a foreign concept for you to see me being reasonable and cool headed, but it does sometimes rarely happen. I hope our last experience together won't spur your perception of a reasonable!maruchan being possible.
In post 17, Alchemist21 wrote:Only the scum role-makers should claim what they made in my opinion so Town knows whatnto expect in terms of scum power but scum won't know what to expect in terms of Town's power.
I'm one of the people who created a scum role. I made a mafia JOAT with several 1-shot abilities:
Role cop
Strongman
Roleblocker
Ninja
Vanillaiser (can't be used N1)
From the returned version of the role I can also tell you scum have Daychat.
Except two town roles were made scum roles to balance this. We would have to massclaim role inputs to accurately gauge scrum power
In post 17, Alchemist21 wrote:Only the scum role-makers should claim what they made in my opinion so Town knows whatnto expect in terms of scum power but scum won't know what to expect in terms of Town's power.
I'm one of the people who created a scum role. I made a mafia JOAT with several 1-shot abilities:
Role cop
Strongman
Roleblocker
Ninja
Vanillaiser (can't be used N1)
From the returned version of the role I can also tell you scum have Daychat.
Who submitted the other scum role?
P-edit: What do you mean 2 town roles were made scum? I don't follow.
There is a pool of 11 roles in this game. 7 town, 2 town coppied to scum, and 2 scum. Only two of the four mafia roles got used.
That's how I understood the mod to have done at least. He mentioned something about randomly duplicating 2 town roles to distribute to scum or something.
If all that line means is that he gave two scum a fakeclaim us I my two town roles this game is easily broken by massclaim. Either we have two or the same role claimed and we shoot one or lunch one, and we hit scum either n1 or n2. Or we have 2 roles that don't match claimed roles created if scum lie about their submitted roles, and we lynch all discrepancies