Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)


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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 7:19 am

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Dunnstral
- Top townread. Active w/ actual scumhunting and lots of opinions. Trying to make things happen.

Zachstralkita
- town. Don't think his scumhunting has been very good but his attitude reads town to me.

Transcend
- townlean. I kinda feel like he does believe I'm scum. And I liked how when I called out his reasoning about me, he immediately thought it was wierd that I wanted him to FOS me more instead of the fact that I thought it was scummy. I feel like scum would have gotten more defensive.

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- townlean. His "burn me" if Yoshi isn't scum reads very town to me. I beleive that read.

Tommy
- slight townlean - not much to go off of but I feel like his zach/dunn sockpuppet thing reads to me like townie paranoia.

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- null

Raskolnikov
- null, slightly scum. His posts have gotten a little better than they were earlier. But mostly I don't like him as scum cause he doesn't jive well as scumbuddies w/ my stronger scumreads.

nnn_thekushmountains
- scumlean. Not crazy about his defense of me. 90% seems pretty strong. Also don't like how he seemingly tried to "inception" people that I was being scumread by the whole town when it was like 2 people.

drmyshottyizsik
- scum. He votes the guy getting townread by everyone for "pressure"? How can he expect that to possibly help town? The rest of his posts are shit as well.

Blue Yoshi
- scum I don't like his defense of Raskol. He says nobody gave reasoning but I laid out my case pretty clearly. And like, in one post he talks about how he's not gonna be a sheep. And in the next he's all "Kindly direct my vote to where it should go"

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- scum. His vote on me is shitty w/ shitty reasoning. If he just was like "yeah sheeping transcend" it wouldn't have pinged me. But I feel that he felt the need to manufacture his own reasoning. And as I pointed out already, that reasoning was terrible.

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- scum. I've posted my reasoning.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 7:22 am

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^^lamist
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 7:33 am

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In post 476, Bacde wrote:^^lamist
I can't tell if ur trolling right now but can you explain what you think is lamist?

Also are u gonna respond to my questions in 459?
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 7:36 am

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In post 459, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 444, Bacde wrote:I forget what it was but his entrance set me off as bad
You forgot? You know you're allowed to go back and read previous pages right?

Can you explain what it was about my entrance that was "bad"?
In post 444, Bacde wrote:and then he set me off again when he took advantage of the weird counter-scout current that happened a few pages ago and tried to wagon him
LIAR! I pretty much STARTED the anti-scout stuff, I didn't "take advantage" of anything. Also you're calling it a counter? Who is it countering?
In post 444, Bacde wrote:and he hasn't moved on from there.
First off: I hadn't made a single post since then.

Second: Why is it scummy to keep my vote on my scumread?

In post 444, Bacde wrote:Scout seems like an easy town target
Why can't scout be scum?
Dude I feel like you are making a huge attempt to argue semantics with me rather than address the meat of my arguments

Like, who cares the exact reason I didn't like your first post? Do you think that someone not liking a first post is going to have a STRONG reason as to why its bad anyway? Its mostly gut but for your sake I'll go back and reread and let you know exactly what it is

Here's what I remember about the scout situation: most people were townreading or nullreading him, then he started posting a lot and freaking out and seemingly generally newbie and saying "I'm gonna be n1ed or lynched d2 because I'm so out there", and then people were weirded out by him and going "what the heck man", and then you voted him. It looked like an opportunistic vote that wasn't actually accomplishing anything besides trying to either hide your vote or see if you could get a bandwagon going on someone who I read as town. Why are you making a point about the definition of the word "counter"? It was counter-scout, as in, going against scout. I don't see what there is to be confused about here but go ahead and clarify if I'm missing something.

I'm not keeping exact track of your posts but I mean, if your next post had been "oh nvm scout seems town actually" after my vote I might have moved it away from you.

I don't have an answer for why scout can't be scum besides that I townread him. What do you want me to say here? He hasn't done anything scummy. Unlike you. Also here's your first post:
In post 101, JarJarDrinks wrote:strongly townreading Dunn. I think he was right when scumreading Rask.

I don't really like Zach as scum though. I can see him making that post as a joke.

VOTE: Raskolnikov

There's several Rask posts I don't like. Gonna point em out in a few.
I remember why I didn't like it now. You hopped on the Rask wagon, which was a boring and weak vote that was easily ignorable on a boring and unimpressive wagon, kind of like you want to hide. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Just fyi guys, I'm mostly an emotional and tone type player. Solid logical arguments can sway me, but the nature of the game as it is means that theres not a lot of solid logical arguments in the game that can't be nullified with a "BUT WHAT IF HE IS SCUM" argument, and there really isn't going to be much solid evidence to go off of on d1

In post 470, Tommy wrote:
In post 393, Transcend wrote:K nice, stop commenting on useless shit and put your vote somewhere, perhaps, on JarJar.
Not ready yet. Still got seven pages to catch up. And now three more pages since I last posted. You guys are chatty.
In post 412, drmyshottyizsik wrote:I prefer sitting back a tad and observing the machine on a sociological plane. I'll get there. So far I don't have any super strong scum reads, and I don't want to get in the way of them developing.
I do not dig this.
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In post 380, Tommy wrote:
In post 367, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: BlueYoshi
Why?
because I scumread him
I do not dig this either. Both of you are playing like scum. Give me some content or die.

nnn_thekushmountains's defence of Jar JarDrinks is weak.

All right, now for a bit more catch-up.
In post 242, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 130, Zachstralkita wrote:that wasnt a scum claim btw i just hate those if ur x then y posts
why did you feel the need to even point that out?
This is good. So is Zach's reads list at 244. On the other hand, inspectorscout's reads list at 301 is evasive.
dude you are lazy as hell, I literally posted reasons why I was voting JarJar in that same post. Are you gonna do any work yourself or do I have to make sure to bold your name for every point I make that could be relevant to the game? Because then I would just bold everything I say
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 7:44 am

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Why do people scumread Blue Yoshi? Because he changed his mind on a vote?
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 7:48 am

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Hello everyone so I have replaced in over BlueYoshi and I am currently reading over all of the posts so give me about an hour than I'll be in this

Pedit: I will soon find out
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 7:58 am

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wow a whole hour of reading. that is really impressive man.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 8:00 am

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In post 474, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 473, drmyshottyizsik wrote:VOTE: dunn
you deserve some pressure
In post 313, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Let's, reason please?
The reason is I think town will benefit from some pressure there.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 8:41 am

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Oh man the pressure
But who do you think is actually mafia? Might want to place a serious vote.
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Uh no, doesn't indicate alignment
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:10 am

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I can see the votes on jarjar. Looking through what he's said, everything seems a little too logical. Like, mafia could reproduce any of that. I suggest looking at his meta though. He seems to be acting the same way he did when he was town in another game I played. drmyshotty is weird.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:13 am

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I think that's why I'm not scumreading jarjar- I don't really expect an emotional reaction from him.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:17 am

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VOTE: inspectorscout


hello alpaca
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:18 am

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Bacde isn't making a whole lot of sense. Man, answer jarjar's questions at the very least. Gut feeling isn't enough, and if you're going to claim it is you can lynch yourself right off.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:22 am

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In post 487, Trivium wrote:Bacde isn't making a whole lot of sense. Man, answer jarjar's questions at the very least. Gut feeling isn't enough, and if you're going to claim it is you can lynch yourself right off.
???????????????????????????????i am answering his questions

why are you having trouble understanding me
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:23 am

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In post 486, Zachstralkita wrote:VOTE: inspectorscout


hello alpaca
bad zach bad vote
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:27 am

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In post 489, Bacde wrote:
In post 486, Zachstralkita wrote:VOTE: inspectorscout


hello alpaca
bad zach bad vote
rr..rroof roof



also a reads list isnt lamist... that uh.......yeah.. no.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:29 am

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my vote might switch to bacde off the strenGTH OF THAT
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:30 am

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In post 490, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 489, Bacde wrote:
In post 486, Zachstralkita wrote:VOTE: inspectorscout


hello alpaca
bad zach bad vote
rr..rroof roof



also a reads list isnt lamist... that uh.......yeah.. no.
except his reads list is bs

he's just following the trends and I haven't seen any critical thinking or spectacular reads from him

what makes you think he is town?
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:31 am

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In post 491, Zachstralkita wrote:my vote might switch to bacde off the strenGTH OF THAT
oh no
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:31 am

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In post 491, Zachstralkita wrote:my vote might switch to bacde off the strenGTH OF THAT
I think it may be your personality, or that awful avatar, but I hate all of your posts.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:31 am

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Jar JarDrinks's 475 and Bacde's 478 both seem town.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:31 am

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ok his townread of tommy was a surprise but it definitely doesn't make me think that his reads are in any way shape or form real or based on actual thought, analysis, and conclusion
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:33 am

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In post 489, Bacde wrote:
In post 486, Zachstralkita wrote:VOTE: inspectorscout


hello alpaca
bad zach bad vote
Dude seriously? You're reasoning for townreading scout was basically "uh IDK, cause". You can't seriously be trying to move people off his wagon for a gut townread that u cant explain?
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:35 am

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Nah tommy, Bacde's 478 was weeeird. Putting a vote on rask is apparently acting like he wants to hide with a boring and weak vote... that doesn't make any sense. Why not just... not vote if you want to hide? Seems to graspy for straws.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2016 9:36 am

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In post 492, Bacde wrote:except his reads list is bs

he's just following the trends and I haven't seen any critical thinking or spectacular reads from him

what makes you think he is town?
following trends? I don't think you even read my reads list.

Please point out some spectacular reads that you've made thus far...

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