One of the reasons I really think Liger is town, beyond their other posting, is the neighborhood reveal.
First of all, if Liger were scum, they probably would have been informed by their team mates if there were other neighborhoods in existence. Instead he acted as though everyone had one. This was an assumption made with no other information available, because if he'd had additional information, he probably wouldn't have gone about it the way he did.
Second, I think a mafia neighbor would be more likely to try to gain towncred by "keeping the town's interest" in not revealing the information. The fact that the PT is only open at night mitigates this somewhat, but not by a lot, in that there has not been an opportunity for any possible scum to show this. However, since the members knew who the others were, a combined ISO of all 4 may be beneficial to see if there were any hints at this kind of thing to the others. In any case, the fact remains that his immediate open revelation about it means the scenario doesn't exist in Liger's case.
There was a third but I got distracted by work and I lost my train of thought. I'll come back to this later.
I basically want to look at the neighborhood really closely because it
does
give me a sense of direction in such a large game and I do think it's a good place to start. Of course there's the possibility that all 4 are town, and I fully acknowledge that, but I believes it's more likely there's at least one mafia in there.
@magna - If there's multiple teams, then perhaps the idea of more than 1 anti-town member of the hood is possible but I think that's more of an outside theory at this point, since we don't have any indication one way or the other, but even that scenario means there is
anti-town in the hood. considering the existence of at least one is reasonable at the moment and something we can work on deducing.
In post 604, MagnaofIllusion wrote: In post 212, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:EBWOP: to clarify - i only got through about 4 people in pre-game rsearch before i got bored, and shotty's tell was the most solid, so i ISO'd him to see if it was here, and it is.
Who else did you meta research?
Have you ever done this as Town before?
I gave my notes earlier, but as for doing this as town before and showing it in-game, the only one that I know of for sure happened was as CatBug, a hydra of me and Sthar8. (It might also have been the hydra with his brother but I'm 90% sure it was catbug). They gave me shit for it there too.
And honestly, rereading your ISO kind of makes me mad about the whole "Titus coaching Ircher" thing because first of all, it absolutely read as coaching, and absolutely coaching happens in games where scum do not have daytalk. My thinking on it went like this: "Why is she telling him what to do? Do they have some kind of outside connection? If they are scum together, it could be coaching, which means scum probably don't have daytalk." I voiced my opinions, mentioned that it depended on the existence or lack of daytalk, and also that it changed my read on Ircher if Titus was scum. So I voted Titus and people went all "BLEEEEH WHY YOU VOTE TITUS AND NOT IRCHER" which still makes no fucking sense to me since ircher's alignment in that scenario depended on Titus being scum which would give credence to the coaching issue in the first place. I do not understand why anyone had such a hard time following that line of thinking. Whether a person agrees or not is one thing but to be all "that means you're scum because I disagree with your conclusions" that's so dumb to me.
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