Music and Mail wrote:intent.
^The scumread started here. The offered intent, regardless of whether serious or a joke, is not something I see a town player doing. Honestly, given the players in there, it wouldn't at all surprise me to have them lolhammer on page one as town, even. The 'why' behind it is harder to describe without an understanding of them. Basically, while it would be an anti-town action, counter-intuitively, in an RC mindset, it would actually increase their odds of being useful: if they lolhammered scum, they would be confirmed town. If they hammered town, then they would be an
incredibly
unlikely douse target for N1, effectively ensuring by proxy that they'd live to see D3 at least. What of the D2 risk in being mislynched?
This is a hydra of
RadiantCowbells
with
Postie
. Town-them holds absolutely no fear of being lynched whatsoever, because in their world, there isn't any possible way they could get lynched. Given all these factors? Absolutely, yes, I would expect them as town to hammer. Why would they not hammer as scum when much of this applies to their scum game too? Because as scum, their main goal isn't to lynch town, so much as it is to manipulate town into lynching town. A hammer on town would be lynching town, sure. But it would not be playing the long-game.
RadiantCowbells, as scum, is always, ALWAYS setting up for the long-game. A lolhammer is a shortsighted move, something he'd do as town but not as scum because town-RC is shortsighted (mostly) whereas scum-RC is a planner. So, instead of hammering, they contribute to the discussion and look town by giving intent, without actually killing shotty. (Note that this does rely a lot on shotty being town. If shotty were scum and RC were a scumbuddy, absolutely RC would lolhammer on page one, because he'd get town credit for it and it'd cut discussion short.)
26 had a fake tone to it.
Yeah, so if this game continues with this much content scum are going to autowin. Someone unvote Shotty and let's get some discussion going, hmm?
@Everyone
if you had to pick one person as scum from the last two pages who would it be?
This is actually a signature of
my
scum game, but it applies to theirs just as much: an effort to try and appear town, without actually doing anything town. This is empty.
In
72, I hated the waffle on shotty, and also the way they greeted me did not feel like a town greeting. This was the content as of my "guess who?" post, though at the time I posted that, I hadn't yet received my role PM, so I didn't know if I was replacing in as scum or not. (Obviously, if I had landed into a scum slot, I wouldn't have been able to push them because they'd, you know, be my scumbuddy.)
Since then, we've got more. Aside from what I just pointed out?
Autolynching Ranger tomorrow for this.
If Music and Mail were town, they would be raising
absolute hell
about my scumread on there. We're talking, going virtually Frozen Angel levels of ballistic.
Well, actually, small correction. If they were town and townread me, they would be ranting at me.
If they were town and scumreading me, they would be ranting at the town about me.
This was it though.
This, literally this, was basically the whole of their Ranger push.
It's fake. It's insincere.
You get
97, but it's not filled with passion. It has no energy. It's flat, dull even.
103 is also more of the same. It's just further elaborating, but at the same time, not. It's not making a big display of it. Me scumreading RC is a
very big deal
.
To me, RC is just another player. I don't treat him any differently than I would anyone else. But this is not mutual. RC holds me in a whole different league, so he should be angry. He should be emotional. He should be saying how sad he is that I've gone downhill like this, he should be trying to work with me, or if he seriously thinks I replaced in as scum and for some UNGODLY reason went all-out on him (which...runs contrary to literally every piece of my scum meta, ever), he would not rest until I was dead.
Yet he's complacent here.
He's docile.
And that is not a town-Radiant.
And as a last point? (All the posts I've skipped are already featured in my iso; read them.)
Music and Mail wrote:UNVOTE: That's NOT L-1! RC wants to do things.
This is RC setting up the long game. He knows that if I get lynched now, I'm flipping town. I become a tree stump, and I
hard
push. Others may listen. That's a danger for him. So what does he need to do? He needs to earn town credit. He needs to do something that will make people think he's town. If it makes me think he's town, mission accomplished. But it works even if I still scumread him (I do), so long as others buy into what he's trying to sell here, that he's waiting.
But a town-RC? If he legitimately thought I was scum,
he would never let go
. He wouldn't unvote, not even for a moment. He might ask for someone else to unvote, sure, yeah, but his vote would remain, because he wouldn't be willing to unvote me.
That's why I'm 95% sure Music and Mail is scum.
