Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: Infinity

[Zachstralkita]

I already did read.

I legitimately thought I was replacing into a scum slot

and was sad when my role pm said town

Phoneposting right now and probably will be for the rest of today, but tommy looks like scum to me.

Vote on my slot looks like an excuse to avoid engagement

and so do his posts tbh. (Though his posts seem towny on the surface, this doesn't mean much)

Alpaca is noob town I think (directly saying "this is scummy so I won't do it" reads like noob town posting), Zach jar jar trivium and inspector are all town too I'm pretty sure

What's up transcend you're town right

what kind of question is that?

and how is he supposed to answer it? " ya guys.. im .. im .nott......"

I'M the one that does the satire around here.

not to mention he has everyone as town, and some as less credible town.

[inspectorscout]

Jarjar, i asked you questions and you blatantly avoided them.
I said that PR thing as a purely hypothetical thing to try and hope to get you thinking about lynching me. But that post has been a few posts ago already. Why point that out now instead of replying to my post about how quick wagons build or answering my questions?

[Tommy]

Son of a bitch. I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT. Was hoping to catch dude slipping

Well, he was pretty cagey about it.

[Zachstralkita]

Jarjar, i asked you questions and you blatantly avoided them.
I said that PR thing as a purely hypothetical thing to try and hope to get you thinking about lynching me. But that post has been a few posts ago already. Why point that out now instead of replying to my post about how quick wagons build or answering my questions?

Because you really shouldn't even be hinting at PR like that.

[Zachstralkita]

Son of a bitch. I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT. Was hoping to catch dude slipping

Well, he was pretty cagey about it.

I feel like I could have executed that a lot better.

[Transcend]

Trans, u havent answered:

If we lynch scout and he flips town then do you admit that we (triv, zach, myself) are the power town players and you're garbage?

I think you meant scum, and i feel you might have scum slipped lol

But if inspector flips scum I'll just sit back in the corner of shame and admit I'm awful.

[Transcend]

I'm sorry infinity we can't be power town anymore. Zach made a solid point about your contradiction.

[Transcend]

I gotta re evaluate everything.

UNVOTE:

[Transcend]

I'm still not changing my tr on inspector and i feel the slots that voted him were slightly justified but made an incorrect judgment.

Tommy's better in my world, he's had a few good posts recently. His content is towny. His actions look scummy as fuck. Actions speak louder than words, but idk what to make of this.

I kinda blind trusted infinity due to his vote on someone i adamantly scum read, but after sleeping it off and reading what he said and what others said about him, i don't feel too good about him.

[Infinity 324]

yup another quotewall

I already did read.

I legitimately thought I was replacing into a scum slot

and was sad when my role pm said town

Phoneposting right now and probably will be for the rest of today, but tommy looks like scum to me.

Vote on my slot looks like an excuse to avoid engagement

and so do his posts tbh. (Though his posts seem towny on the surface, this doesn't mean much)

Alpaca is noob town I think (directly saying "this is scummy so I won't do it" reads like noob town posting), Zach jar jar trivium and inspector are all town too I'm pretty sure

What's up transcend you're town right

PEdit: yeah rip

Maybe he's voting your slot cause he was scumreading it just like u were.

@zach. Yeah that may be one of the scummiest entrances I've ever seen.

"Man, my slot is so F'n scummy. Tommy is scum for voting my slot"

Lol I already addressed this. Tommy isn't scum for voting my slot, the

way he did it

was scummy because there were no other really engaging remarks in his post. Town shouldn't be (and usually isn't) afraid to get their hands dirty, and tommy seems exactly that.

Like, i might even have a power role

Also this is more garbage ATE bullshit. Town should never make this post.

Softclaims are usually town. We're not lynching a softclaim d2.

Only pointing this out cause you made it obvious already

what kind of question is that?

and how is he supposed to answer it? " ya guys.. im .. im .nott......"

I'M the one that does the satire around here.

Sometimes reactions to questions like this can be alignment indicative, it wasn't really much of anything

Also I disagree that it was pro-town cause scout was obviously feeling the pressure already

It wasn't for pressure. I was trying to kill him.

Don't you think it's a bit early for that

You're not being proactive, you're not scumhunting, you're not pushing for lynches, you're just commenting on what you see and asking question which don't seem to be getting anywhere.

I am scum-hunting: my scum reads right now are you, inspectorscout, Transcend and AlpacaAlpaca; my town reads are Trivium and Zach. I am pushing for your lynch. Not getting anywhere, I'll give you that. But that kind of reassures me: it's harder to lynch scum than to lynch town

Having scumreads doesn't mean you're scumhunting

Like, you've done almost nothing this game that's meant to determine someone's alignment. That's a problem.

Talking of which, has anyone noticed how my 'opportunistic' push on Kush after he quick-hammered our bulletproof led to exactly no votes besides mine? Do we not think that if Kush was town, some other opportunistic types might have joined in?

It wasn't even opportunistic cause there were no other votes on him at the time lol

It was just like "look at me I scumhunting and doing stuff" when really you're not.

Loving the 'forest' schtick. Dude, you should have just gone with a single, confident 'no'. The vanilla PM was in Creature's first post.

Lol I'm dumb didn't even know he was talking about something I would've gotten in a role pm

I thought he would know that flavor isn't allowed in role pms

wagon on me is pretty weak reasoning but I don't think it's scum driven

PEdit: It's not me it's you transcend. In a bad way.

PEdit 2: Towny actions can easily be faked and his words have been towny the whole game really

It's easy to look town if you don't engage with people, that's why tommy is doing it

[Transcend]

I still can't get over Tommy pushing Kush aka easy scum ml and when that vote received no momentum, he voted inspector. I don't like these actions, but i like his content. Someone in the game i think lowell said that he might be noob town and I'm pondering if that's possibly the case.

Zach, I've liked what you've had to say recently and the observations you've pointed out. What is your opinion on Tommy's actions vs. Hood words in this game?

[Transcend]

His*

[Infinity 324]

Like, i might even have a power role

Also this is more garbage ATE bullshit. Town should never make this post.

Also look at my sig bro

[Trivium]

I gotta re evaluate everything.

UNVOTE:

Don't steal my townpoints

Infinity is probably scum. I don't like the way in particular the wagon on him has formed, but I agree with Tommy that kush's quick hammering was- wait, I scumread tommy. God damnit

[Transcend]

May i ask what i stole

[Trivium]

Wait, tommy could have been distancing himself which explains that little side thing that happened AND his focusing on scumreading infinity's slot, allowing him not to join in on conversation about other slots and instead focusing on bussing his partner.

[Trivium]

The paranoia from both scout and trivium is very town

See, this is what pisses me off. Looking like town isn't enough, and I don't even know if you're scum or not, so I don't know if that even matters. I have to be able to figure out who scum is and know things. To be honest I have next to no clue who scum is and that makes me anxious.

[Tommy]

I'm sorry infinity we can't be power town anymore. Zach made a solid point about your contradiction.

What? That was MY really solid point! You're saying I've been making good posts recently but you totally haven't read them. This is wholly so you can wagon the guy who was your best buddy five minutes ago.

Okay, forget about scout and Alpaca for today. Either Transcend or Infinity will do. No one else will do.

It wasn't for pressure. I was trying to kill him.

Don't you think it's a bit early for that

I didn't. Now I'm glad it didn't happen because this is so much better.

It's easy to look town if you don't engage with people, that's why tommy is doing it

I really don't get this thing you keep pushing. What does engagement look like? How is it different from what I'm doing right now?

[Trivium]

I mainly only look at content. I went over tommy's votes though and I have to say a lot of them were reaaaallly opportunistic for what was going on. I'm starting to be okay with a Tommy lynch. Starting. I need some serious solid proof though because I've been townreading this guy a while.
Pedit: OKAY NEVERMIND LET'S LYNCH TRANSCEND WOOHOO except no my transcend scumread has kinda dissipated at this point.

[Infinity 324]

Paranoia is hard to fake imo and you guys both did it in natural places.

Is the wagon on me seriously cause you guys don't understand my reads? It would've been laughably easy for me-scum to come in and make a pretty wallpost that summarized the last 50 pages and it would probably just get me townread by a lot of people tbh. But I actually decided to come in and interact with people so I can determine their alignment.

Not saying that makes me town cause that would be wifom of course but it certainly doesn't make me scum.

PEdit: Well this post is a start.

Engaging people in mafia is kind of a hard thing to explain, but essentially I've never seen you get into an extended conversation with anyone except for now. zach/dunn on d1 is a good example, so is me/transcend when I replaced in

[Transcend]

I read them now Tommy. It's just i tend to be biased if i scum read someone and it's hard for me to consider them in a town matter, but now i have.

[Transcend]

I'm what you call: stubborn.

[Zachstralkita]

But I actually decided to come in and interact with people so I can determine their alignment.

u called everyone town LMAO, you're very determined

Zach, I've liked what you've had to say recently and the observations you've pointed out. What is your opinion on Tommy's actions vs. Hood words in this game?

what?

anyways i'll just uh.. i'll just say that the forest thing wasn't entirely false and leave it @ that

Softclaims are usually town. We're not lynching a softclaim d2.

Only pointing this out cause you made it obvious already

inspector himself said it was a hypothetical.

Sometimes reactions to questions like this can be alignment indicative, it wasn't really much of anything

Sometimes, but not right there because that's not why you asked him that.

Yep, I just told you why you did something.

It's easy to look town if you don't engage with people, that's why tommy is doing it

It's also easy to interact with everyone to try and look town, what have you been doing that benefits the town as opposed to creating a bunch of " well maybe this could be true maybe that could be true"?

We have scout for that.

wagon on me is pretty weak reasoning but I don't think it's scum driven

Tommy and I are basically driving your wagon. He STARTED your wagon. Tommy is the closest thing you have to a scumread this game. He's got one hand on the fucking wheel. But not scum driven?

That means the scum are off your wagon? So not me, JJD, or Tommy, but somewhere else? And not inspector, because you townread him?

Is the wagon on me seriously cause you guys don't understand my reads? It would've been laughably easy for me-scum to come in and make a pretty wallpost that summarized the last 50 pages and it would probably just get me townread by a lot of people tbh. But I actually decided to come in and interact with people so I can determine their alignment.

If that were the case, Alpaca would be conf based on his entrance.

You seem to think the objective of scum is to look town.

It is not.

[Zachstralkita]

I still can't get over Tommy pushing Kush aka easy scum ml and when that vote received no momentum, he voted inspector.

This is an oxymoron given what follows. Obviously NOT an easy scum ML if there was no momentum. Thus making a lot of sense if actual scum.