Open 645: C9++ - Game Over

[LicketyQuickety]

but who am I to dictate your game right???????????

Indeed. I am use to people ignoring my cases so I don't really care if people think its a bad vote. Point is, I think they are scum. I'd wager that it wasn't so much the info that was in the case as much as the way the case was presented. People are fickle like that.

[Not_Mafia]

VC 1.06

Ranger (0)-

LicketyQuickety (2)-

Ranger, Dunnstral

Kappy (3)-

Bins, Transcend, Zachalstrika

Smithereens (0)-

a plain farmer (0)-

Ümläüt (0)-

Bins (1)-

LicketyQuickety

Riddleton (0)-

Dunnstral (3)-

Riddleton, davesaz, Kappy

Zachstralkita (0)-

Transcend (0)-

davesaz (1)-

Smithereens

loopdan (1)-

Ümläüt

Not Voting (2)-

loopdan, a plain farmer

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-06-30 14:00:00) - Jun 30th 19:00 GMT

Mod Notes

Zachstralkita

is the

Innocent Child

.

Seeking a replacement for

loopdan

and

Kappy

[Transcend]

the thing is dude, if you REALLY want someone lynched, you're gonna have to convince other people to vote with you. with your attitude (and your case honestly, but mostly your attitude) you're not going to garner much votes. otherwise, you just have a vote floating and no one is going to do anything about it.

[LicketyQuickety]

the thing is dude, if you REALLY want someone lynched, you're gonna have to convince other people to vote with you. with your attitude (and your case honestly, but mostly your attitude) you're not going to garner much votes. otherwise, you just have a vote floating and no one is going to do anything about it.

Its not my attitude that is the problem. Its that people are selective in what info they deam valid based on how charismatic someone is. bins case on me (or lack thereof) is objectively worse than mine because I provided reasons for my read on them. you can disagree with those reasons all you like because I am not charismatic, but my observations are valid. You can add that bins hasn't had much in the way of observable Scum hunting to my case on them though. I mean, yeah, you can say that they have made stances on people and that is a way of Scum hunting, but it can just as easily be the case that bins is just pushing baselessly on me and seeing if it gets traction. I am lynch bait, so there is a good chance that it very well could pick up traction. And then bins can just say I was acting Scummy and then they get no pressure put on them for lynching me. Ranger falls into the same category as bins in that Ranger hasn't done a lick of Scum hunting and only made stances on people ie. me and that I am Scum with no reasons given. Ranger knows I have a Scummy meta.. I've played 2 games with Ranger, one Town one Scum, so they know I am lynch bait. that's why I think its shitty that Ranger goes after me.

[Transcend]

didn't read but i bet if i did i would regret it

[Transcend]

Transcend (0)-

wow look at that sick bw dodge guys loooook at ittttt

[Bins]

Ranger falls into the same category as bins in that Ranger hasn't done a lick of Scum hunting and only made stances on people ie. me and that I am Scum with no reasons given.

there is quite a bit of problems with this


I don't see how you can say we aren't scumhunting. We are. That's what we're doing.

[Dunnstral]

Well at least I am

[LicketyQuickety]

Ranger falls into the same category as bins in that Ranger hasn't done a lick of Scum hunting and only made stances on people ie. me and that I am Scum with no reasons given.

there is quite a bit of problems with this


I don't see how you can say we aren't scumhunting. We are. That's what we're doing.

So making baseless pushes is how you Scum hunt?

You haven't voted me yet. Why not?

[Bins]

Because I think someone is more likely to be scum than you?

Do you have no concept of the game state at all?

My read on you isn't that strong. It's there, but it's not that strong. And honestly the fact you won't shut up is making me lean toward a more neutral feeling. Stop trying to force everything, holy poops.

[Ümläüt]

Holy this is a lot of activity for less than 48 hours. Except lately most of it is just Dunn and LQ calling each other names and they should probably get a room.

The Dunn wagon is really stupid, and no one on it (except maybe Kappy) is green enough to think that Dunn's trolling is actually alignment-indicative, so let's look at who's there.

Riddleton

has three posts and none of them are longer than a sentence.

Davesaz

' vote on Dunnstral is completely unbelievable and comes right after he put me at L-2 about two hours into the game. Then he throws shade at LQ in 285 when LQ starts questioning him. Then when LQ doesn't drop it he lets loose with this gem:

Why are you taking such an interest in an exchange that doesn't affect you?

I can't believe I missed this my first read-through. Seriously, ISO Davesaz right now, he's just ridiculously scummy.

Kappy

I thought seemed off before but on reread just seems clueless--he jumped twice on obviously-not-serious comments and then responded to people voting on him with sad faces before replacing out. Just because he's clueless doesn't mean he's town I guess, but at any rate I don't think he and Davesaz are a likely scumteam.

VOTE: davesaz

[Transcend]

VOTE: umlaut

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: umlaut

no

[Transcend]

VOTE: kappyslot

[Dunnstral]

Dunn's trolling

I'M SCUMHUNTING...

[Zachstralkita]

nah he's trolling

anyway RIDDLE OR KAPPY best BETS

[Dunnstral]

How many votes does kappy even have

His slot is EMPTY

[Ranger]

If you're one of the 'better' scum hunters you're going to have to bus often as mafia to keep up that appearance.

No, I hate bussing.

The only times I've bussed are when I thought I was going down, and that through the bus, I would maybe make my partner look town.

(This has never worked as intended, though it came close once!)

And if you're going to insist Lickety then I'm going to insist you give something more than 'gut feeling.'

Okay. I have an N0 guilty on LicketyQuickety. There ya go. More than gut.

I'm curious for instance how you could possibly town read me when I don't think you know a thing about me.

I honestly couldn't care less who you are.
Your play is town.
That's all I need to know.

[Ranger]

Haven't seen you give a reason for this vote yet.

This is true.

And what happens when Ranger is Scum?

Town wins!

the dude's probably shit town.

As scum, LicketyQuickety

thrives

, absolutely

thrives

in town assuming this. He will throw bad reads around, make a lot of noise, and people will basically go, "terrible" but also "not scum", allowing him to push an incredibly pro-scum agenda and get away with it.

So no.
Not shit town.
Just blatant scum.

I have caught scum based on a confirm before.

Funny, so have I!
You'd know, you were there.
As the scum I caught.

[Ranger]

In Open 635, she posted a super-early read list as usual, and her biggest "scumread" was actually scum.

This was an action specifically preplanned by RadiantCowbells, the player in question, during the pregame. We had decided we were going to start the game with distancing and gradually warm up into a townread of each other. We ended up doing exactly that, as he had planned. Was his idea, would never have occurred otherwise.

[Ranger]

Thought I posted this when just posting my earlier wall.
Guess I didn't.
{Dunnstral, Zachstral, Smithereens, Transcend}
{Riddleton, davesaz, Bins}
{Kappy}
{Umlaut}
{a plain farmer}
{Loopdan}
{LicketyQuickety}

[Ranger]

gonna want a reason for them being in the same tier, and a good one.

Okay, so.
I don't think it's one day's worth of a changed diet suddenly making me high.
I honestly, seriously just feel like I hit a zone. A zone where all of my reads are really, really good right now.

All of them feel so...

right

.
I really like your posting.
Bins I like too.
Smithereens did something I don't think scum would do.
Transcend has been posting in a way I just don't see from scum.
Dunnstral is the same but more.
Kappy feels like town but not by much.
Umlaut actually looks like scum, but not groupscum.
a plain farmer really looks like scum.
Loopdan's even more of a scumread.
And LicketyQuickety is hard-scum.

It just all feels so RIGHT.

[LicketyQuickety]

And if you're going to insist Lickety then I'm going to insist you give something more than 'gut feeling.'

Okay. I have an N0 guilty on LicketyQuickety. There ya go. More than gut.

OK I feel stupid for having to state this (and more stupid for you saying it), but there is no N0 in C9++. And I just can't take this seriously because most the time N0 give a VT result and Cop wouldn't out themselves Day 1 and there is not even a guaranteed Cop in the game. The only scenario I can see a reason for a cop to come out day 1 is because they were a 1-shot. But again, I have never seen a game where a 1-shot Cop gets an investigative result N0. I can honestly say this is one of the more bizarre claims I have seen (barring some of the ones I have made tho).

IF YOU ARE COP, DO NOT COUNTER CLAIM THIS!!!

[Ranger]

(There's a reason 372 is a scumclaim. Free town points to the player who can figure out why!)

[Zachstralkita]

(There's a reason 372 is a scumclaim. Free town points to the player who can figure out why!)

My mind was left utterly in shambles after reading that.