Open 645: C9++ - Game Over

[Smithereens]

What are your thoughts on my tone Zach?

[Smithereens]

@Dave, I remember your defense of Transcend felt a tad strong, as if you knew he was town despite him just entering the game. Would you explain why you didn't/don't want players voting for Trans?

I am inherently suspicious of people who yell "xxx is scum vote with me" without even once giving a why.
I had no read on Trans at that point. It would not matter in the slightest who xxx was, I would want a reason. The questions were not to defend Trans, they were to sort Dunn.
I will make an exception when xxx has just done something that I find scummy, but in that case I'll usually explain myself while still asking the other(s) to see if they are using the same reasoning.

Are you saying you found literally nothing scummy about Trans' entrance...?

Have you played with him before?

[Smithereens]

Textcat, I'll assume the joke went over your head. Trans and I weren't trying to remove players from the game lol...

[Zachstralkita]

What are your thoughts on my tone Zach?

Nice spontaneous appearance.

(There's a reason 372 is a scumclaim. Free town points to the player who can figure out why!)

If you have something that nails scum on Day 1, why hold it in?

The implication behind Ranger's post was painfully obvious, and our in-house psychologist here not picking up on that but being able to diagnose aspergers through text is pretty funny.

Nevermind that, the choice of words is also wonky. " Why hold it in?" would imply Ranger is at fault therefore aiding scum. It reads to me like you're trying to force something and seem overtly towny.

[texcat]

I don't like Smithereens's tone at the start of 396, actually.

Yeah, if you're talking about the Ranger remarks, I get it.

I've finished my

read

skim through. We still have 10 days left. I think there's some good stuff in D1, and after we get some flips, I can see it being very useful.

VOTE: Transcend

I think the strals are sock puppets and will play against their win con.

VOTE: Dunn

I haven't read this game and will when i get home.

UNVOTE:

Hi

I see you all don't like my intro. Sorry bout that. The whole Ranger thing, I have 3 completed games with her (once she was on a hydra). We've been opposite alignment each time and I think she's a good player, so I want her on my team.

Posting thoughts in a bit.

VOTE: smithereens

i'll longpost later lol

i'll give a full reads list tomorrow. don't have enough energy to longpost. but i'm glad i got to call you out and i'm glad you responded. those posts just looked really weird, to me.

UNVOTE:

Major scum tell in my book, promising read lists without ever delivering. He's voted mostly on low posters and whatever wagon was conveninent.

[Dunnstral]

Texcat is looking a lot townier than Loopdan in her catch-up posts.

Are you implying that loopdan looked scummy?

[Smithereens]

The implication behind Ranger's post was painfully obvious, and our in-house psychologist here not picking up on that but being able to diagnose aspergers through text is pretty funny.

Nevermind that, the choice of words is also wonky. " Why hold it in?" would imply Ranger is at fault therefore aiding scum. It reads to me like you're trying to force something and seem overtly towny.

To be fair I've played fewer games here on MS than any other player I'd wager so I'd ideally like my questions to be taken seriously. What's obvious to you isn't obvious to everyone iow.

Ranger appears to know that LQ is scum, however I have strong reasons to suspect the opposite. At that point in the game you might have noticed that Ranger was one of my scum reads, so pointing out that my choice of words seem to imply my belief in her guilt is to be expected no?

On the LQ business, can you sum the case against him? The other players appear to assume he is scum and this includes yourself if I'm not mistaken.

[Zachstralkita]

The implication behind Ranger's post was painfully obvious, and our in-house psychologist here not picking up on that but being able to diagnose aspergers through text is pretty funny.

Nevermind that, the choice of words is also wonky. " Why hold it in?" would imply Ranger is at fault therefore aiding scum. It reads to me like you're trying to force something and seem overtly towny.

To be fair I've played fewer games here on MS than any other player I'd wager so I'd ideally like my questions to be taken seriously. What's obvious to you isn't obvious to everyone iow.

Ranger appears to know that LQ is scum, however I have strong reasons to suspect the opposite. At that point in the game you might have noticed that Ranger was one of my scum reads, so pointing out that my choice of words seem to imply my belief in her guilt is to be expected no?

On the LQ business, can you sum the case against him? The other players appear to assume he is scum and this includes yourself if I'm not mistaken.

You would be mistaken. I'm advocating heavy for LQ town.

Anyways I'm relatively new to this site so...I'm just bullshitting with you. Or am I.

[LicketyQuickety]

The implication behind Ranger's post was painfully obvious, and our in-house psychologist here not picking up on that but being able to diagnose aspergers through text is pretty funny.

Nevermind that, the choice of words is also wonky. " Why hold it in?" would imply Ranger is at fault therefore aiding scum. It reads to me like you're trying to force something and seem overtly towny.

To be fair I've played fewer games here on MS than any other player I'd wager so I'd ideally like my questions to be taken seriously. What's obvious to you isn't obvious to everyone iow.

Ranger appears to know that LQ is scum, however I have strong reasons to suspect the opposite. At that point in the game you might have noticed that Ranger was one of my scum reads, so pointing out that my choice of words seem to imply my belief in her guilt is to be expected no?

On the LQ business, can you sum the case against him? The other players appear to assume he is scum and this includes yourself if I'm not mistaken.

You would be mistaken. I'm advocating heavy for LQ town.

Anyways I'm relatively new to this site so...I'm just bullshitting with you. Or am I.

there is no need to WIFOM as IC.

[Zachstralkita]

The implication behind Ranger's post was painfully obvious, and our in-house psychologist here not picking up on that but being able to diagnose aspergers through text is pretty funny.

Nevermind that, the choice of words is also wonky. " Why hold it in?" would imply Ranger is at fault therefore aiding scum. It reads to me like you're trying to force something and seem overtly towny.

To be fair I've played fewer games here on MS than any other player I'd wager so I'd ideally like my questions to be taken seriously. What's obvious to you isn't obvious to everyone iow.

Ranger appears to know that LQ is scum, however I have strong reasons to suspect the opposite. At that point in the game you might have noticed that Ranger was one of my scum reads, so pointing out that my choice of words seem to imply my belief in her guilt is to be expected no?

On the LQ business, can you sum the case against him? The other players appear to assume he is scum and this includes yourself if I'm not mistaken.

You would be mistaken. I'm advocating heavy for LQ town.

Anyways I'm relatively new to this site so...I'm just bullshitting with you. Or am I.

there is no need to WIFOM as IC.

I was referring to my aggravated interrogation of his statements. I was trained for this.

[Smithereens]

lol but you ended the convo and I didn't get what I wanted from it?

[Zachstralkita]

lol but you ended the convo and I didn't get what I wanted from it?

See, that's just what I'd like you to think.

Oh the whole LQ thing... people think he's scum for his reads and ... some other fuck shit actually you're better off not asking me... I don't parlay into faulty logic it disrupts my processing capacity ty ty ty ty . tty .. ty

[texcat]

Textcat, I'll assume the joke went over your head. Trans and I weren't trying to remove players from the game lol...

Yeah, the joke definitely went over my head. It just seemed mean. Maybe I'm just overly-sensitive for the player I replaced.

[Dunnstral]

there is no need to WIFOM as IC.

Stop posting you've requested replacement.

[LicketyQuickety]

there is no need to WIFOM as IC.

Stop posting you've requested replacement.

I have no reason to replace unless someone is saying I am VI. Are you saying I am VI or not?

[Dunnstral]

Act your age.

[LicketyQuickety]

Act your age.

[davesaz]

287 More self-defense and pretty lame self-defense at that, basically saying it's okay to give vague cover-all-the-bases quasi-scumreads like he did. (No, it's not okay.)

It's my meta. It's not going to change. I don't do strong scumreads until there are flips, period. I have a wiki page, knock yourself out. Or you can just zip it.

302, 326: reiterating the question from 111. Spoiler alert: He does nothing with the answer he gets, because the answer never actually mattered.

Actually the answer does matter. TBH don't think I got a satisfactory one. Haven't done anything with it

yet

. See previous answer...

[iraonavp]

I was worried about Bins but I think she looks more town than scum.

VOTE: iraonavp

Primarily for the opportunism and rhetorical contortions, secondarily for Kappy.

I'm not scum-aligned, your vote makes me more sure I'm voting the right person.

The questions you were asking me before made me feel like you were trying to change my mind, rather than trying to read me.

[iraonavp]

Okay so this game is moving kinda slow like a ... lily pad.. in .. qui c k sand

a plain farmer is trying to act as if these votes on him do not exist and hope they will go away by... ignoring them.

this is not town behavior however.

I agree, everything he says is so cold.

[iraonavp]

Regardless of who's voting, what do you think of a plain farmer?

Honestly he's kind of scummy but probably not where I'd put my vote

Actually Farmer isn't a bad vote right now

Hi texcat. You'll come across a part of the game where LQ and Dunn have this back-and-forth that's mostly noise. If you want to see what it looks like without them, copy this into the address bar:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=200

...?

Why would you even go to the effort of acquiring that link when it's obviously not going to help

Why do you think he would go to the effort of acquiring that link when it's obviously not going to help?

That's not even relevant at all anyway, and no point to that question other than for appearances. I see where this is leading, just vote a plain farmer now.

[iraonavp]

Actually ignore what I said, I just understood what the link was and that's completely stupid, yeah.

[iraonavp]

I mostly agree with Umlaut's posts that he posted.

[Smithereens]

I mostly agree with Umlaut's posts that he posted.

I think 'big' is a word that describes something very large.

don't be redundant, tell us what you're in agreement about.

[Smithereens]

for dave