Open 643: Kill All Townies! (Game Over)

[Chip Butty]

Hey, Dix: Have you ever noticed that, on the cover of Abbey Road, Paul is barefoot and out of step with the others? And something about the license plate of the Volkswagon Beetle parked on the side of the street? How freaky is that?

[Smithereens]

I think you're taking an obvious joke too seriously Chip..

[JaeReed]

I'm not sure why you're so desperate for me to drop my scum read. I'm not dropping it.

Because I know I'm town and can see you tunneling me when you need to at least search for the opposite faction outside of my interactions. Because I still need to find like 6 scum and I need help with that from the other town.

@Jae: Curious - why did you ask the question about LQ's exchange with House on that page, but not his earlier exchange on the same page with the "other House", aka Kuroi?

I didn't find that exchange to feel off, and didn't have any doubts about it that I felt a second opinion could help with. It felt like a town Kuroi reaching out to LQ in case he was town. Reads town vs scum there.

I was already scumreading LQ

and the exchange didn't do anything to make me think "huh, he might be town" whereas Kuroi's side seemed pretty town.

@Smither I did mention it earlier that I was scumreading LQ before the thing with House (and Kuroi)

I'd accept this as satisfactory. Apologies.

Sure? It was still after everything went down. I mean, the most this proves is that I didn't just make this up tonight. Sorry I've been so prickly. It's mainly that you're reading me wrong and I know that I can't convince you otherwise, tbh. Plus you seem to me to be reading other people based off your read on me (which I'm guilty of doing as well), but I know I'm town and therefore have a responsibility to try to convince town reads to at least scum hunt without factoring their read on me into it >.< otherwise I feel like all the reads are going to be wrong.

[Smithereens]

No I'm not too sure where to put you atm Jae. That post earlier in the game that I missed would imply that your thoughts were consistent even if your posts were not. I can't read thoughts but Mr gut says your thoughts aren't as bad as I thought before.

UNVOTE:

[Charloux]

Fun fact: I asked people to not let me make a fool of myself in front of you again. They have abandoned me. xD TOO LATE, GUYS. I'm lost and nothing can save me now!

Sorry... I was eating breakfast when this happened

[Charloux]

I think you're taking an obvious joke too seriously Chip..

As a fellow lurker i know it wasn't a joke. He could either be prod dodging; Or trying to get into the game. Hopefully the latter.

[JaeReed]

Yeah I didn't read it as a joke, either.

And Charl </3 Breakfast more important than making sure I don't obvious crush in thread. But did you see?!?! She called me "Backup Ranger" even though I'm this bad The woman knows how to play to her fans.

[karnos]

VOTE: creature

The problem with this line of thinking is that scum are scumhunting too. Creature wouldn't know for sure anyone is town so the grab for towncred in that situation could go horribly wrong. All that means, I think, is that he legitimately thinks he's town.

Scum should be scum hunting, sure. But I don't see any scum hunting in creature's iso.

Also, I think it would have been better if you let creature respond without giving him an easy out.

[Creature]

It'd be better if you could see I am town hunting.

[Creature]

Though, I think you're different from Open 638 where you were scum.

[Creature]

LQ also looks pretty town and I don't like when someone tries to doubtcast a reaction to a fake-hammer unless it's obviously a fake reason (Bellaphant).

[Creature]

Chip Butty, JaeReed and Smithereens look town.

[Creature]

Town reads:
Chip Butty
House (him fishing a reaction looks town)
JaeReed
karnos
KuroiXHF (gut feeling)
LicketyQuickety
Smithereens

[Creature]

VOTE: Bellaphant

[House]

Town reads:
Chip Butty
House (him fishing a reaction looks town)
JaeReed
karnos
KuroiXHF (gut feeling)
LicketyQuickety
Smithereens

Explain your Jae read please. He's coming across scummy as hell to me.

[LicketyQuickety]

Here's my read on a back and forth from earlier:

Town morons just refuse to see that you are Town too.

I see this as chip is trying to insinuate that LQ should take hint: "I'm (pretending to be) town morons, other people (pretending to be town) should take the hint".

Then LQ responds:

And you are a Town read because you are not playing like an experienced player plays and inexperienced players are the easiest to read. Just FYI.

I see this as LQ trying to insinuate "You are a (pretend) town player because you are bad at playing and I can read what you are saying like an open book.

Then,

Have you ever noticed that those little guys roll their eyes in unison? How freaky is that?

As though to say "hey, i'm with scum" Chip insinuates himself as being linked with the only person near LQ on ranger's list: House.

Finally,

Chip, I get you, but you are confirmation biasing me pretty hard right now.

LQ gets frustrated with how blatant Chip is being and even says "hey, shut up about being scum before you get us both caught".

Baseless. Whith someone of your experience I expect more from you.

[LicketyQuickety]

LQ you must not have known that Ranger was V/LA either... :\

ugh..

I did in fact know that Ranger was V/LA. What is your point?

[Chip Butty]

I think you're taking an obvious joke too seriously Chip..

Really? You think joking, not extreme reach?

I actually LOLed for real when I read what he made of the rolling-eyes. If there is one post in my entire Mafia career that I wouldn't have expected someone to take seriously, it would be that one.

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm really starting to thins Ranger could be Scum here. I think it might be a freudian slip when she says we've never been the same alignment.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.6:

LicketyQuickety:

KuroiXHF, Ranger, Bellaphant, pistachi0n (4)

JaeReed:

hiplop, LicketyQuickety (2)

karnos:

sad1492, DixC (2)

hiplop:

Almost50, Kop (2)

Bellaphant:

Creature (1)

Creature:

karnos (1)

Not Voting:

Charloux, Chip Butty, House, JaeReed, Smithereens

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-06-30 18:20:00)

[Rob14]

Not_Mafia replaces sad1492.

[Not_Mafia]

@mod replace me out, something came up sorry

[Not_Mafia]

Okay I fixed it, I can stay now, don't replace me

[Not_Mafia]

Why is the biggest wagon only 4 votes in a 17 player game?

[pistachi0n]

@Pista,
What are your thoughts on Jae?

Also, it's well worth reading up on LQ. I had this feeling that the wagon was too opportunistic to be genuine and I've reached the belief that there isn't anything noticeably different about LQ from game to game. Certainly not enough for everyone to be scum reading him for it.

There was some opportunism in the LQ wagon, but it's Day 1 and multiball.

I don't like how Jae is being so weird about Ranger (first puts blind faith in her, then votes her because she disagrees with some of her lists, then unvotes her because "she's dead tonight anyway." I can't tell if that's fumbling scum or confused newbie town, though.