New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[Killthestory]

Why do you think Slandaar is scum? His ISO reads very very town to me.

Performer is town. Fire is useless, null. Hebi is meh.

I don't like your reads.

[Nero Cain]

awesome. Its not like folks not lining my reads have stopped them from flipping scum.

[Killthestory]

That said, I don't particularly like your lynch anymore, everyone should just sheep me and lynch Aristo.

WAIT A SECOND

[Killthestory]

awesome. Its not like folks not lining my reads have stopped them from flipping scum.

be useful to me or I'll end your life.

Nero/Slandaar= Not same alignment

[Killthestory]

4 players who are acceptable votes.

Hebi, Nero, potentially Slandaar, need to look more, and Fire. Fire, not as much, since I actually sort of like his play, and I think he's town, just useless town that I'll off if he won't become useful.

[Killthestory]

Hebichan is scum.

Noticeably a threat to Hebi by the way.

[Killthestory]

not as sold as DGB and slan on the revolving door slot that is now dominator

I was joking about 'must be scum'. I do think the slot has a good chance of scum though based on the reasoning in 2309 (if you actually go and reread the part of the game I am talking about you will see what I mean).

I also don't see many slots left who have potential to be scum.

4. Killthestory - No
7. Performer - No
9. hebichan - Possible but Nah
11. Firebringer - Really Don't think so
12. RachMarie - Really Don't think so
15. Slandaar -
16. Reverie - Probable
18. DrippingGoofball - Really Don't think so
19. KickAssAndGiggle - Probable
21. Something_Smart - Possible but Don't think so

I like the Dominator wagon.

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I didn't think massclaim was optimal earlier in the day with just KTS claimed but it depends on you, Performer, I don't think it can be bad either so eh.

I really, really like this post.

[Killthestory]

Except for the fact where he labels Reverie as scum.

[Nero Cain]

Like first and for most, I'm assuming that Dom wagon was a fucking scum gold mine though I more than expect someone (Performer?) to try to flip it on me. Something like a "oh you didn't vote him 'cause' you knew he'd flip town" or some weak ass shit like that.

not as sold as DGB and slan on the revolving door slot that is now dominator

I was joking about 'must be scum'. I do think the slot has a good chance of scum though based on the reasoning in 2309 (if you actually go and reread the part of the game I am talking about you will see what I mean).

I also don't see many slots left who have potential to be scum.

4. Killthestory - No
7. Performer - No
9. hebichan - Possible but Nah
11. Firebringer - Really Don't think so
12. RachMarie - Really Don't think so
15. Slandaar -
16. Reverie - Probable
18. DrippingGoofball - Really Don't think so
19. KickAssAndGiggle - Probable
21. Something_Smart - Possible but Don't think so

^these reads are wishy washy.

People's reads so far

Drip - t on fire ; s on hebi
kts - t on perf/sland; s on hebi
heb - t on kts/perf/slan; s on ss, fire, kaag
ss - t on perf/drip/nero; s on heb, dom, sland
rach - t slan, kts, drip; s on fire,
fire - s on domi
nero - t on kts, rach, ss; s on fire, slan, heb
sland - s on kaag/domi
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6-24-16 is d5 deadline & the most recent vc is below:

Killthestory -
Performer - Killthestory
hebichan - SS
Firebringer - hebi, rach, nero
Rachmarie -
Slandaar -
yume/reverie/Dominator37 - fire, Drip, Slandaar, perf
DrippingGoofball -
nero/KickAssAndGiggle -
Something_Smart

Not Voting - dominator

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
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forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=65280&f=56&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select[]=12589&user_select[]=0&user_select[]=0&user_sort=Go

link to nero cain's town meta, for anyone interested
after digging through several pages of his meta, I haven't found a scum game of his so far but that is what I found so far

^
is IIOA, its a known scumtell and works like a charm for me.

[Killthestory]

Performer is town.

Nero's pushing inconsistent shit. I don't like it a single bit, and I think he's got a lot of potential to be scum. Plus, Fire's reads have actually been really good this game, and I'm willing to say he can go 3/4.

Also, Hebi, if Kuroi was so obvtown, Fire should be a goldmine for you. Labeled two different scum, and the other two have the potential to be scum.

[Killthestory]

Mixed up Irao and Fire. Dammit.

[Nero Cain]

god you are so full of yourself.

[Killthestory]

Welcome to the jungle baby!

VOTE: MafiaTurtle

Town

Why would you vote in your first post without seeing anything scummy?

How else would you get the game started?

VOTE: Killthestory

See? It's fun!

Also votes town

Kickandgiggle, what do you think about jam and the wagon on him?

Feel free to make it KAAG, save the old keyboard.

Someone's gotta get wagoned early, may as well have been him. But Ness is now scumming the place up, so we need a new one.

Also before I forget this doesn't seem to be serving much of any purpose at the moment.

UNVOTE:

BZZZZ. Wrong.

VOTE: N e s s

Also another vote on town

Town-leans: GR, Killthestory, Egg, SS
Scum-leans: Ness/Reubus (for now)
Slight scum-reads: Jam

Too many nulls, get involved! Kop, Ilikebugs and Snarky in particular.

Slight scumread for GR, and KA&G

Leave me aside: what's wrong with GR? He posts what he likes...seems towny to me.

No scum scumread, all confirmed town at this point in the game.

Still feeling pretty good about GR, Killthestory, Egg, SS for town. Although GR could do with pulling his head out of his ass.

Iraonavp is probably town too. And Slandaar.

Still leaning scum on Ness/Reubus slot and Jam. Starting to feel bad vibes from Creature, why are you ignoring Egg's question?

pisskop and Fraggernaut are both null despite posting plenty: I have no clue how to read either of them. SirCakez looks exactly as he did last time I played with him (Open 623), when I thought he was scum but he was actually town. Jury's out there. Performer sounds straightforward but I disagree with some of his posts (i.e. post 292, 298).

Other slots null due to lack of content.

UNVOTE: Reubus
VOTE: Creature

Feels useful.

Still hasn't even scumread scum, much less voted on them.

I don't even understand what Ness was trying to accomplish.

A few things I would like some clarity on

I don't understand the Jam wagon or the Creature wagon
Robster doesn't seem scummy to me, he doesn't exactly seem to have any scum merit behind his posting
Creature why are you voting Drixx exactly?

I voted Creature for dodging Egg's question, but I kinda liked his response to me, so...

UNVOTE: Creature

Ness was nailed on scum as far as I was concerned, and if you're not going to catch up a mere 21 pages (of mainly short posts) properly, then:

VOTE: Reubus

Another vote on town

Unfortunately, I do not endorse any of the wagons on Reubus Swagrid, Creature, or I.

I think you're town iraonavp, but I thought the Ness slot was scum and I don't like the way Reubus has replaced in but done nothing. So what don't you like about that wagon?

Drixx

Since you entered, I see exactly one post that has even an arguable piece of scum-hunting in it (435). Everything else is fluff or defensive. You can add me to the list of people who suspect you. Are you ready to commit to some reads yet?

Fragger

I agree with Egg: a loaded question is nothing to fear if you're town. I can't point to anything specifically you've posted that's scummy but I don't get good vibes from your posts.

Town Leans

Something_Smart, Slandaar, iraonavp, DGB, Performer, Egg, Killthestory, SirCakez

Suspicious

Creature, Jam, ilikebugs, Fragger

Scum Leans

Reubus, Drixx


If you're not listed, I either can't work you out or you've lurked.

It took a lot of posts JUST FOR YOU TO SCUMREAD ONE SCUM. That's very sad, and you have not voted scum as of yet. Only confirmed town.

There's likely one scum in {Drixx, Firebringer}. Neither have provided any reason for voting Guy, who is null as null can be apart from the hammer, both fluff posted their way through D1 and both, but Firebringer especially, replaced suspicious slots.

Considering the slow pace of D1...let's get this rolling:

VOTE: Firebringer

Aristophanes replaced a lurker and then contributed nothing but filler also. Need to see a lot more from that slot today.

I understand the misreading by Fraggernaut in his interactions between himself and iraonavp, and see how that could have happened. But Fraggernaut has been overly defensive, especially when talking to Slandaar, who along with Egg and Something_Smart are my strongest town reads. He could be scum.

Boonskies, jam and ilikebugs have contributed little. Could be scum in that trio also. Snarky also could do more but I get a whiff of town there.

Performer, DGB, Killthestory, Ozgin and iraonavp are fence-town for now.

PEdit: yeah, Performer is using the Gambler's Fallacy on Firebringer, but there's enough signs that he could be scum that it's unnecessary to do so.

Doesn't heavily push Fragger, pushes Ozgin as barely town. This is the type of shit I was looking for, very scummy interactions. Still votes on potential town rather than confirmed, but I find it funny that no confirmed scum have been voted on yet.

[Killthestory]

god you are so full of yourself.

Because I'm probably right on about 90% of my reads, if not 100%, and my read have the potential to progress.

Very comfortable with a VOTE: Nero Cain vote since I read only a couple of KAAG's posts and it screamed out scum the entire time. Time to ISO Cain a little and see their reads coming in.

[Killthestory]

Nero, not much to talk about, slightly scumreads Hebi, could be bussing, could just be legitimate scumreading him, could be pushing a mislynch, leaning bussing. However, Fire and Nero are also not of the same alignment. Hebi and Nero have the chance to be the same alignment, fairly high.

Start the Nero wagon

[Nero Cain]

you should prob stop helping the scum.

[Nero Cain]

like, you think I'm scum 'cause you don't like my reads? That's just bullshit bro. I can't defend against your KAAG stuff 'cause you know...I'm not KAAG but I I think you scum reading me for not liking my reads is p illogical.

[Killthestory]

That single post detailed so perfectly as to why I'm wrong that I don't have any hopes of possibly making a counter argument against it! What a god

Nah, just associations. Pretty good associations, your reads also suck, and KAAG never voted a scum member until very late game, if they did at all.

[Nero Cain]

bro, ppl says my reads suck all the time. How come I flip town all the time with "sucky reads" It'll be no diffrent this time.

[Killthestory]

That's nice.

[Killthestory]

So when are you gonna try and convince me you're not scum?

[Nero Cain]

After Slan flips I'll be conf town.

[Killthestory]

After Slan flips I'll be conf town.

Neat

[Performer]

Decided to check in and see what's going on, and ended up seeing a ton of new posts.
Did a skim and saw people voting left and right, and venting - trust me , I share the frustration as well.

I need remaining town to cool it with anymore votes on anyone . There is still likely an SK and I'm thinking 1 scum, remaining.

I've seen enough and I will place my vote accordingly, when I return tomorrow morning.

DO NOT add anymore votes ON ANYONE. Though my role has its limits , I will provide my result tomorrow, and everyone who's remaining town, needs to follow my lead.

Rach your post is very weird. Unless i did the math wrong, this is indeed very likely MYLO in worst case scenario. Please explain how you arrived at this not being MYLO.

I'll address things in a fuller scope tomorrow, but again, please do NOT add anymore votes until I come back tomorrow. I need to sleep to get up for work early tomorrow. We have time left, please do not rush this.

[Killthestory]

Alrighty