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Bacde · Post Post #2100 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:08 pm

In post 2094, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:You weren't included in the they however you should probably just claim since if you are town forcing people to put you at l-1 isn't helping

No fuck off, I stated my terms

If people want to be anti-town and force my hand they can do that but I'm not forcing anyone to do anything

Bacde · Post Post #2101 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:09 pm

In post 2096, Transcend wrote:And this information will help us out and if you eat a nk for it, then so be it.

If I eat a NK for it then everything that you need to find will be found

Bacde · Post Post #2102 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:09 pm

Transcend is town here btw

AlpacaAlpaca · Post Post #2103 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:10 pm

In post 2093, Zachstralkita wrote:
Bacde wrote:fuck I even said I would claim first
In Alpaca/Lowell, who's scum?

Would you like my opinion?

Zachstralkita · Post Post #2104 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:11 pm

nah nah nah i don't think we should force this out of him actually. I have a good feeling he'll be safe at night.

Which is probably why he should claim.. but...

Zachstralkita · Post Post #2105 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:11 pm

In post 2103, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
In post 2093, Zachstralkita wrote:
Bacde wrote:fuck I even said I would claim first
In Alpaca/Lowell, who's scum?
Would you like my opinion?

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah case lowell go

AlpacaAlpaca · Post Post #2106 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:13 pm

In post 2100, Bacde wrote:
In post 2094, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:You weren't included in the they however you should probably just claim since if you are town forcing people to put you at l-1 isn't helping
No fuck off, I stated my terms

If people want to be anti-town and force my hand they can do that but I'm not forcing anyone to do anything

What is the issue with you claiming and why would it be anti town to try and force you to do so?

Pedit: give me a sec zach

Zachstralkita · Post Post #2107 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:15 pm

In post 2101, Bacde wrote:
In post 2096, Transcend wrote:And this information will help us out and if you eat a nk for it, then so be it.
If I eat a NK for it then everything that you need to find will be found

Zachstralkita · Post Post #2108 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:16 pm

I'm not sure how that works. What sort of role gets its results revealed upon a flip?

Bacde · Post Post #2109 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:26 pm

In post 2108, Zachstralkita wrote:I'm not sure how that works. What sort of role gets its results revealed upon a flip?

Bacde · Post Post #2110 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:27 pm

In post 2106, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
In post 2100, Bacde wrote:
In post 2094, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:You weren't included in the they however you should probably just claim since if you are town forcing people to put you at l-1 isn't helping
No fuck off, I stated my terms

If people want to be anti-town and force my hand they can do that but I'm not forcing anyone to do anything
What is the issue with you claiming and why would it be anti town to try and force you to do so?

Pedit: give me a sec zach

what is the issue with people not understand what I've said and not taking it at face value?

I've done a value assessment, its better for me not to claim unless we massclaim

Zachstralkita · Post Post #2111 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:32 pm

Bacde wrote:
In post 2106, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:
In post 2100, Bacde wrote:
In post 2094, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:You weren't included in the they however you should probably just claim since if you are town forcing people to put you at l-1 isn't helping
No fuck off, I stated my terms

If people want to be anti-town and force my hand they can do that but I'm not forcing anyone to do anything
What is the issue with you claiming and why would it be anti town to try and force you to do so?

Pedit: give me a sec zach
what is the issue with people not understand what I've said and not taking it at face value?

I've done a value assessment, its better for me not to claim unless we massclaim

o..................k so debate of the day alpaca / lowell

hmm who do i really believe

AlpacaAlpaca · Post Post #2112 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:45 pm

Ok so I tried to do quotes but I'm on a phone and I can't handle it without Messing up, so I will add quotes to my case later but the basis of it is this.

He starts out kind of slow and by that I mean not posting for a while than posting once than another big break. When he does start posting for an extended period of time he just hops onto the current bandwagon even mentioning it was a scummy thing to do. I still hate his stance on lolhammering because I'm pretty sure it doesn't show "courage" in a town way at all and is either scum pulling a bold move or town making a shit one. He switched his views quite easily on people based on what other say. Than we have jarjar asking Lowell why he is scumreading him and Lowell says "That's a great question which I can't really answer. Somehow I've got it in my mind that you are, though. Am I being played or what?" Which is a absolutely terrible answer. More recently we have me asking him to explain his updated read on me as well as disprove what he currently had on me which he ignored so assuming he missed it once he was on again I quoted it for him so he would see it and he instantly dissaears and doesn't answer it and still hasn't answered it all he has said is vote alpaca. Than his interaction with the proposed town block all of this leads me to beleive he is scum for sure

AlpacaAlpaca · Post Post #2113 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:54 pm

I have to go now but I will be back in the morning

inspectorscout · Post Post #2114 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:11 pm

In post 2110, Bacde wrote:what is the issue with people not understand what I've said and not taking it at face value?

I've done a value assessment, its better for me not to claim unless we massclaim

I dont think you are scum but this looks really bad. You are only going to claim if everyone claims? is that so your scumbuddy knows the pr's and do some cool nightkills? Really, im pretty sure there is a protective role (i believe someone softclaimed pretty badly already) so there is nothing to worry about if you are town.

Transcend · Post Post #2115 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:55 pm

honestly bacde's refusal to claim reads town to me.

it's honestly probably both lowell/alpaca.

i still kinda want a claim but i can live with hanging lowell/alpaca before he claims at this point.

Transcend · Post Post #2116 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:03 pm

i think i'd rather off alpaca over lowell after some deep thinking. i kinda think both are scum right now. but if it's only one of them i'm PRETTY sure it's alpaca.

with that said, i'm gonna keep my vote in place.

bacde, since you've been on the defensive all day, tell me what you think about alpaca and lowell. our reads have paralleled quite a bit throughout this game, i'm curious where your head is at about these two slots.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #2117 (ISO) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:14 am

In post 1923, Bacde wrote:We shouldn't be at LYLO and we aren't mass claiming and I'm not at L-1, so I'm not claiming. If you really want to get upset with me and run me up to L-1 then do it

can we just get 2 more votes on him please?

Transcend · Post Post #2118 (ISO) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:28 am

at this point i'm more eager to hang one of my foses than know what bacde is. i haven't really fosed him at all this game. only thing that suggests he's mafia is a point that was made by Tommy (the already flipped mafia).

just hang Alpaca and rid the town of 67% of the mafia.

Transcend · Post Post #2119 (ISO) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:29 am

I'm not saying that Bacde vs. JarJar is outright TVT but I feel like you two bickering and JarJar forcing Bacde to claim and Bacde resisting and you guys fosing each other from that isn't the appropriate step to take for today when all of us are reasonably comfortable with Alpaca/Lowell lynches.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #2120 (ISO) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:33 am

How can it hurt though? Just run him to L-1 and get his claim and then we move back to Lowel/alpaca (Unless his claim is THAT bad).

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #2121 (ISO) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:35 am

Although we run the same risk of him getting quick-hammered if he's town and one of those other 2 are scum.

Which is why he should claim w/o needing to get to L-1. If he's town, then he's being really stupid w/ this.

Transcend · Post Post #2122 (ISO) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:40 am

In post 2121, JarJarDrinks wrote:Although we run the same risk of him getting quick-hammered if he's town and one of those other 2 are scum.

this, my friend is why we shouldn't l-1 him. we risk losing potential PR due to scum that wants to sac themselves.

i think i honestly trust bacde's judgment here. he seems like a seasoned player he's been here since 2005. i think we're legitimately just pissing him off by asking him to claim. maybe he's right in that he doesn't want to claim yet. i cannot make that call, but i feel like giving him benefit of the doubt.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #2123 (ISO) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:40 am

And these just look like stalling tactics. He needs specific actions to take place before he will claim? WTF is the point of people actually bold-voting instead of FOSing?

And it's not like he's here interacting w/ us, he shows up for a few minutes @ a clip, posts some garbage and then disappears for 10 hours. It's pure stalling.

Transcend · Post Post #2124 (ISO) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:44 am

i hate to speak for someone else but he has said that he's been busy with work.

but he's been on the defensive all day and has had to respond to all the people CAMPAIGNING for him to claim.

i have done my best to get bacde to contribute content about stuff other than his claim such as his opinion on alpaca/lowell. he hasn't responded, but you HAVE to remember that this game isn't everyone's life. immediate responses won't always happen.

just felt like putting that out there honestly.