Open 643: Kill All Townies! (Game Over)

[House]

I've been away from the site for around a year, and I'm not familiar enough with her play to call shenanigans on such self-aggrandizement with any amount of certainty. It just seems rather exaggerated, because she doesn't strike me as particularly swift compared to players such mastin and Wisdom, who can often read me within a post or two.

this post made me lol

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=59877

Check mastin's ISO. It's amazing.

Posts of note:

88
463
475
993
999
1095 (called out entire scumteam)
1769
1877
1959
1970
2070
2072
2130 -back to the correct scum team after doubting the Pasch read for a while - and nightkilled for it.

[House]

Those are big shoes to fill, so I am skeptical of people who pat themselves on the back if they aren't looking like that.

[Smithereens]

Actually, I think Almost comes out looking worse than House, because he did it twice. Once with the "Doctor" and once with the "daytalk".

Chip I don't think you're looking at anything AI. If anything, would this not indicate town..?

[LicketyQuickety]

Here's my

would

lynch pile:

KuroiXHF
Charloux
JaeReed
karnos
House
Creature
pistachi0n

[Almost50]

* Grrr! That should have read "...games I have played with you, or am playing,..." ^

Obviously nobody can point out anything in games they "are playing" if they don't want to get banned!!

[Chip Butty]

Actually, I think Almost comes out looking worse than House, because he did it twice. Once with the "Doctor" and once with the "daytalk".

Chip I don't think you're looking at anything AI. If anything, would this not indicate town..?

Yeah, I really dunno. I just can't quite get my head around the idea that someone would embark on a game like this and just scroll down past the list of roles in the setup - I mean, I'd expect a certain amount of natural curiosity. As for whether it's AI or not - I know this is a bit reachy - I would expect players to take more interest in the roles of the opposing side, and the only Docs in this game are scum. So, ignorance of Docs in the game might be more scummish than Townish.

The other thing is House's reaction, which seemed a bit over the top to me. I had a quick look over his ISO, and calling shit stupid seems to be his goto way of dealing with anyone probing more than he likes/is comfortable with. When I have time, I'll take another look and maybe post something about that. I might change my vote after that, but zi'll leave it where it is for now.

[Chip Butty]

Oh, and the other funny thing about House's responses is he says he NEVER reads wall posts except for readlists. Implications of that are (1) He not only hasn't read the setup info, but he has no intention of doing so in the future, and (2) He might miss critical info contained in someone's wall post. Even if not AI, I can't see that being a wise strategy.

[Almost50]

Usually i am super active town leader type

Yeah, rrrrright!!!! I'll even asl Spiffy to confirm that

[KuroiXHF]

Here's my

would

lynch pile:

KuroiXHF
Charloux
JaeReed
karnos
House
Creature
pistachi0n

And I'm on the top of this list. Yeah, boy!

[Chip Butty]

Actually, I think Almost comes out looking worse than House, because he did it twice. Once with the "Doctor" and once with the "daytalk".

Chip I don't think you're looking at anything AI. If anything, would this not indicate town..?

BTW, can you explain why you think this might indicate Town?

[hiplop]

Usually i am super active town leader type

Yeah, rrrrright!!!! I'll even asl Spiffy to confirm that

What? That is like a completely true statement

[KuroiXHF]

Usually i am super active town leader type

Yeah, rrrrright!!!! I'll even asl Spiffy to confirm that

What? That is like a completely true statement

How was your date? It's only 10:30. I'm guessing there was no sex that occurred.

[LicketyQuickety]

Here's my

would

lynch pile:

KuroiXHF
Charloux
JaeReed
karnos
House
Creature
pistachi0n

And I'm on the top of this list. Yeah, boy!

The order means nothing. I just went down the list.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.9:

JaeReed:

LicketyQuickety, Kop (2)

LicketyQuickety:

Ranger, pistachi0n (2)

karnos:

Not_Mafia, DixC (2)

hiplop:

Almost50, KuroiXHF (2)

Bellaphant:

Creature (1)

Chip Butty:

karnos (1)

Charloux:

Bellaphant (1)

KuroiXHF:

hiplop (1)

House:

Chip Butty (1)

Not Voting:

Charloux, House, JaeReed, Smithereens

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-06-30 18:20:00)

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: DixC

[LicketyQuickety]

Votes are way too spread out.. don't like that. We need to start consolidating BW's now.

[DixC]

VOTE: DixC

Just a big nothing vote; cute.

LQ doesn't consolidation make it easier for a bad kill to happen?

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: DixC

Just a big nothing vote; cute.

LQ doesn't consolidation make it easier for a bad kill to happen?

I don't follow. Possibly, but its better for Town to see eye to eye IMO. Town can't win without lynching Scum.. If everyone does what I do, its easier to decide who is Scummiest. Will bad night kills happen because of this? IDK. What's stopping bad NKs from happening if we don't consolidate?

[House]

VOTE: DixC

Just a big nothing vote; cute.

LQ doesn't consolidation make it easier for a bad kill to happen?

Why wouldn't town say lynch in this scenario?

VOTE: DixC

[Ranger]

I do know her reads aren't perfect, but hey it's d1, who's reads CAN be?

Where does your confidence in my competence come from?

[House]

I do know her reads aren't perfect, but hey it's d1, who's reads CAN be?

Where does your confidence in my competence come from?

You seem to be having trouble with context.

I am skeptical that you are as good as you claim, but I'm extending you the benefit of the doubt because I've been away for a while.

[Smithereens]

Actually, I think Almost comes out looking worse than House, because he did it twice. Once with the "Doctor" and once with the "daytalk".

Chip I don't think you're looking at anything AI. If anything, would this not indicate town..?

Yeah, I really dunno. I just can't quite get my head around the idea that someone would embark on a game like this and just scroll down past the list of roles in the setup - I mean, I'd expect a certain amount of natural curiosity. As for whether it's AI or not - I know this is a bit reachy - I would expect players to take more interest in the roles of the opposing side, and the only Docs in this game are scum. So, ignorance of Docs in the game might be more scummish than Townish.

The other thing is House's reaction, which seemed a bit over the top to me. I had a quick look over his ISO, and calling shit stupid seems to be his goto way of dealing with anyone probing more than he likes/is comfortable with. When I have time, I'll take another look and maybe post something about that. I might change my vote after that, but zi'll leave it where it is for now.

I rarely scrutinize the OP as well. It's just a list of rules and roles that I'll forget in a day or two. That being said, I can see the logic in the belief that a scum would be more interested in the role list. It might come in handy for if the maf want to know if they should avoid obvious townies for their NK due to a doc being in the game for example.

It would seem though that my assumption is mutually incompatible with your own views. I think that not reading properly or reading carelessly is townie, because I often (always) do it as town. That should tell you that if you're going to scum read a person for not taking notes on the roles in this game, you're going to be scum reading the majority of players in this game consistently.

[Ranger]

I am skeptical that you are as good as you claim, but I'm extending you the benefit of the doubt because I've been away for a while.

And I'm asking why you're giving the benefit of the doubt in the first place.

[Charloux]

Here's my

would

lynch pile:

KuroiXHF
Charloux
JaeReed
karnos
House
Creature
pistachi0n

This list... Has the players i generally like and would want to see in D2 at least. Well no comment on House and pista though.
But i think LQ is just 100% emotional and is just holding a grudge on your ex-wagon. Liking him as townish.
@Almost: Is your first priority in the game to have fun or to win?

[Charloux]

holding a grudge on HIS ex-wagog