New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Titus]

While your hurtful statements crack my stony exterior and pierce straight into my sprinkle-coated heart, I am not fazed because they are obviously false.

Ok Town Squadron dissassemble Titus wagon designate 0114-165 or don't if you feel it's the best scum gambit of 2016.


What's actually stopping one of you getting NK'd tonight, making the claim kinda pointless?

The claim gets idiots and scum to have to pick a new mislynch target, getting us more information. I read the story of the votes. Spending all day talking about how my mason buddy is conftown is a little ridiculous and does nothing to further the game.

[implosion]

Looking back I'm really not a fan of AGar's content post. He attacks Titus largely for pushing with empty reasoning, when he himself in his post gives very little reasoning for much of what he says (he cites posts 89, 367-368, 370-376, 387 and possibly more as bad or terrible or etc but gives no justification, as though those 10+ posts are self-evidently scummy [which they aren't]). In assessing Titus's 447, he immediately jumps to the worst possible interpretation:

Are you really saying because you did something one time in a game when you were scum, that this means he's scum?

when it's fairly evident, I think, that Titus is simply saying that it

can

be scum and attacking it for reasons other than her having done it as scum once (calling it LAMIST) together with the fact that

Titus had already been pushing Zach

which pretty clearly indicates that Titus wasn't pushing Zach with the logic of "I did this once as scum therefore you're doing it as scum." This jumping to the worst possible interpretation of things, IMO, indicates a lack of intellectual honesty in evaluating information, which in turn indicates scum.

[Zachstralkita]

I don't think the doc is gonna waste his power like that, hate to burst your bubble

And it looks very bad if neither of you turn up dead, but THEY know that but now I know that they know that so I'll factor it in...

Looking back I'm really not a fan of AGar's content post. He attacks Titus largely for pushing with empty reasoning, when he himself in his post gives very little reasoning for much of what he says (he cites posts 89, 367-368, 370-376, 387 and possibly more as bad or terrible or etc but gives no justification, as though those 10+ posts are self-evidently scummy [which they aren't]). In assessing Titus's 447, he immediately jumps to the worst possible interpretation:

Are you really saying because you did something one time in a game when you were scum, that this means he's scum?

when it's fairly evident, I think, that Titus is simply saying that it

can

be scum and attacking it for reasons other than her having done it as scum once (calling it LAMIST) together with the fact that

Titus had already been pushing Zach

which pretty clearly indicates that Titus wasn't pushing Zach with the logic of "I did this once as scum therefore you're doing it as scum." This jumping to the worst possible interpretation of things, IMO, indicates a lack of intellectual honesty in evaluating information, which in turn indicates scum.

We're taking a break from your regularly scheduled shannon vote for a quick second

^ THAT was a scumpost.

VOTE: implosion

[Titus]

Looking back I'm really not a fan of AGar's content post. He attacks Titus largely for pushing with empty reasoning, when he himself in his post gives very little reasoning for much of what he says (he cites posts 89, 367-368, 370-376, 387 and possibly more as bad or terrible or etc but gives no justification, as though those 10+ posts are self-evidently scummy [which they aren't]). In assessing Titus's 447, he immediately jumps to the worst possible interpretation:

Are you really saying because you did something one time in a game when you were scum, that this means he's scum?

when it's fairly evident, I think, that Titus is simply saying that it

can

be scum and attacking it for reasons other than her having done it as scum once (calling it LAMIST) together with the fact that

Titus had already been pushing Zach

which pretty clearly indicates that Titus wasn't pushing Zach with the logic of "I did this once as scum therefore you're doing it as scum." This jumping to the worst possible interpretation of things, IMO, indicates a lack of intellectual honesty in evaluating information, which in turn indicates scum.

I'm not liking you now. You change your interpretation of events the minute I've claimed mason to agree with what I've essentially said. Your townread immediately weakened when the wagon first formed on me too. I don't trust you.

P-edit:

VOTE: implosion

We agree there.

[implosion]

How so?

[Zachstralkita]

Holy shit ding ding ding lynch that RIGHT now.

[Dunnstral]

That was a town post from implosion.

[Zachstralkita]

That was a town post from implosion.

Another example of why your reads are fucking garbage. Implosion read too much into that statement, saw what he wanted to see, called him scum, and did NOT accompany it with a vote. That's faux town at it's finest.

[Titus]

That was a town post from implosion.

Dunn, that absolutely was not.

Look at Implosions read trajectory on me. Look at votes on me.

[implosion]

Implosion read too much into that statement

I analyzed a number of things in that post.

did NOT accompany it with a vote.

What exactly do you think an AGar vote will accomplish right now?
There's no wagon on him and he's V/LA.

[implosion]

Look at Implosions read trajectory on me. Look at votes on me.

My vote on you really wasn't based on a read (450 wasn't me scumreading you, it was me saying i couldn't remember why i had townread you); it was based on a wagon forming composed of several of my townreads. I think volatile wagons are generally good on d1 and I wasn't doing much else with my vote (it had been dormant on boem for the exact same reason, actually, that I was voting him so that Transcend's vote would have more impact to see what might happen).

[Zachstralkita]

Sheep your mason partner please, your vote is on VARSOON.

Implosion read too much into that statement

I analyzed a number of things in that post.

did NOT accompany it with a vote.

What exactly do you think an AGar vote will accomplish right now?
There's no wagon on him and he's V/LA.

this is not a valid defense

[Wake1]

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AGar

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Airick10

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Almost50

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Boem_u_dusi

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implosion

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Lapsa

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Mirhawk

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Nosferatu

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PeregrineV

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Performer

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podoboq

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shannon

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Sickofit1138

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Titus

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Transcend

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Varsoon

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Zachstralkita

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~WILLING TO LYNCH~

Dunnstral

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Dunnstral said Titus is Town in 780, to which I said in 785 she can't know that because it's only Day 1—that it wasn't obvious—and that I'm assuming Dunnstral knows that Titus is a skilled player who can emulate her meta. Meaning it can't be obvious because Scum-Titus knows exactly how to look like Town-Titus. Being non-linear, Dunnstrail in 805 then says I implied she wasn't skilled, which is false. It being false, I don't know if she's genuinely mistaken or trying to twist my words—the latter being far more serious. Asked her to clarify in 818. In 822 she says she knew what I was talking about Titus, and I checked her again in 833 due to her lack of consistency. Again in 837 she's pushing the falsehood, because no such implication was made unless there was a misunderstanding.

When 'skilled' was mentioned, it was regarding Titus, not Dunnstral. The latter doesn't/won't acknowledge it for unknown reasons.

[Wake1]

Updating Reads List.

[Zachstralkita]

Dunnstral is a dude btw, he does act pretty tsundere though

[Wake1]

Lol.

[Dunnstral]

I've aknowledged you more than what was necessary given your case, actually

[implosion]

Sheep your mason partner please, your vote is on VARSOON.

Implosion read too much into that statement

I analyzed a number of things in that post.

did NOT accompany it with a vote.

What exactly do you think an AGar vote will accomplish right now?
There's no wagon on him and he's V/LA.

this is not a valid defense

I mean, I'm not sure what you want from me if you're calling it "not a valid defense." That seems to imply that you think there would be a valid defense, but that my post isn't sufficient.

Me having read too much into AGar's post is subjective; me seeing what I wanted to see is possible (AGar is part of a somewhat small group of people who I have yet to form townreads on, so I may be somewhat biased towards seeing his posts as scummy); I explained why there's no reason for me to accompany the fos with a vote.

[Titus]

Wake can be vigged. At this point, I have zero desire to rehabilitate Wake (assuming he's town which he may not be) or to get in a long drawn out fight as to why masons are town. Wake's tunnelling on a mason claim based on something that "could be a misunderstanding."

[Titus]

Sheep your mason partner please, your vote is on VARSOON.

Implosion read too much into that statement

I analyzed a number of things in that post.

did NOT accompany it with a vote.

What exactly do you think an AGar vote will accomplish right now?
There's no wagon on him and he's V/LA.

this is not a valid defense

I mean, I'm not sure what you want from me if you're calling it "not a valid defense." That seems to imply that you think there would be a valid defense, but that my post isn't sufficient.

Me having read too much into AGar's post is subjective; me seeing what I wanted to see is possible (AGar is part of a somewhat small group of people who I have yet to form townreads on, so I may be somewhat biased towards seeing his posts as scummy); I explained why there's no reason for me to accompany the fos with a vote.

Yeah, I'm not buying this either, but you actually gave me something I can check in an earlier post. That'll take awhile and game night tonight so...

[Wake1]

Wake can be vigged. At this point, I have zero desire to rehabilitate Wake (assuming he's town which he may not be) or to get in a long drawn out fight as to why masons are town. Wake's tunnelling on a mason claim based on something that "could be a misunderstanding."

First, you can go on the record saying you've never pulled a Mason gambit.

Second, it sounds like you're saying both you and Dunnstral are Masons.

Third, no one is confirmed unless by the game moderator.

[implosion]

Third, no one is confirmed unless by the game moderator.

The fact that they are not

technically

moderator-confirmed or that it is technically possible that they are gambiting is, in fact, not a reason to have either of them in the lynch pool today at all.

[Wake1]

Was that a serious mason claim...

Unfortunately. I obviously wasn't going to let her get lynched

but whatever

now

If you and Titus truly were Masons you wouldn't allow her to be lynched under any circumstances.

[Titus]

Wake can be vigged. At this point, I have zero desire to rehabilitate Wake (assuming he's town which he may not be) or to get in a long drawn out fight as to why masons are town. Wake's tunnelling on a mason claim based on something that "could be a misunderstanding."

First, you can go on the record saying you've never pulled a Mason gambit.

Second, it sounds like you're saying both you and Dunnstral are Masons.

Third, no one is confirmed unless by the game moderator.

I don't believe I have. I've played so much that I can't remember every single game. So it's possible I forgot, but no I don't believe I have.

Yeah, it sounds like I am. Did you miss the part where I said we were masons?

Blah blah blah.

[Titus]

Was that a serious mason claim...

Unfortunately. I obviously wasn't going to let her get lynched

but whatever

now

If you and Titus truly were Masons you wouldn't allow her to be lynched under any circumstances.

He's saying he'd never get me lynched and he's expressing annoyance at the fact I claimed.

Knock this off.