Just to explain, briefly: the point about the flavour discussion was about the nature of Clumsy Phoenix's claim post, in which they work towards getting JaeReed to unveil more information about their role. Outing or rolefishing a slot that has strongly implied that they are weak is hardly in the town interest, and the explanation/justification for Clumsy Phoenix's doing so was based on flavour. This is understandable enough until it is realised that their understanding of flavour here is much weaker than they have hitherto demonstrated, which led me to believe that this was a deliberate attempt at papering over what would otherwise have been a noticeably scummy action. I think Clumsy Phoenix was trying to gauge under what circumstances JaeReed would die for use by their partner(s) before they went down.
So it wasn't so much about incorrect knowledge of flavour as much as it was about why Clumsy Phoenix's claim post was not remotely towny. Regardless, Clumsy Phoenix and JaeReed have responded, and we've had enough time on this. Other points, such as their early game play, lack of scumhunting or pushing on their reads, and disappearing during crucial moments in the game, can be rattled off at will. Suffice it to say that I still think they're scum, and that they should be today's lynch.
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There was really little need for claiming at that point, Rory, you weren't that near to being lynched. Agreeing with Parama that them being Sans doesn't mean a great deal, but I'm pretty uncomfortable about going after Rory between the role they've claimed, the quick wagon, and having very little to go on regarding their slot anyway.
Regarding other candidates, if it can't be Clumsy Phoenix today then my next preference is for Creature, but then that doesn't look likely either. I still don't support a BTD6 lynch and KittenLicks reads as town to me.
@JaeReed, do you think it is likely that any scum were on the Rory wagon?
In post 843, Parama wrote:why shouldn't scum have a sans fakeclaim. I don't see how it's any less likely than a monster kid fakeclaim
I guess I was assuming that scum would only have 'VT' fakeclaims.
Either way, Sans is a key character and arguably the most good character in the entire game. He's the final boss of the Genocide route ffs. It'd be madness for him to be scum-aligned.
Though I did expect him to be a little more powerful than just being a watcher. Sans is a badass.
In post 843, Parama wrote:why shouldn't scum have a sans fakeclaim. I don't see how it's any less likely than a monster kid fakeclaim
I guess I was assuming that scum would only have 'VT' fakeclaims.
Either way, Sans is a key character and arguably the most good character in the entire game. He's the final boss of the Genocide route ffs. It'd be madness for him to be scum-aligned.
Though I did expect him to be a little more powerful than just being a watcher. Sans is a badass.
Yup. We're not lynching Sans if you don't want a guaranteed town death.
In post 857, JaeReed wrote:@frog I wouldn't know, I honestly never understood VCA and as far as I knew that's reserved for after we have flips?
Yes, analysing past wagons will certainly form more of the discussion after Day 1 than during it. I was more wondering whether you thought scum had something to do with how quickly the wagon developed or how little resistance it met with.
@KittenLicks: insistence on lynching within a certain group of players I don't see as being indicative of alignment. The development of their reads doesn't look natural to me, however.
In post 857, JaeReed wrote:@frog I wouldn't know, I honestly never understood VCA and as far as I knew that's reserved for after we have flips?
Yes, analysing past wagons will certainly form more of the discussion after Day 1 than during it. I was more wondering whether you thought scum had something to do with how quickly the wagon developed or how little resistance it met with.
@KittenLicks: insistence on lynching within a certain group of players I don't see as being indicative of alignment. The development of their reads doesn't look natural to me, however.
Oh, I'm thinking a scum buddy would have derailed the wagon or at least hardcore attempted to if he were a scum.
Okay, so, nothing to do with anything recent, just a reminder then? I thought you were referring to something in the current conversations and I was missing something.
Parama wrote:like, he has plenty of time to give a damn about the setup apparently but no time to actually scumhunt and play the game?
