Micro 621: Mafia in Rarefaction (Game Over)

[Equinox]

Vote Count 1.05

xyzzy (3) - Infinity 324, Shadow_step, thenewearth
RachMarie (2) - drmyshottyizsik, Ms Marangal
drmyshottyizsik (1) - xyzzy
Infinity 324 (1) - Kappy
Kappy (1) - RedCoyote
thenewearth (1) - RachMarie

Not Voting (0) -

Ms Marangal

With 9 votes, it will take 5 to reach majority.

The deadline is Sunday, July 10, 2016, at 2:00 AM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2016-07-10 02:00:00).[/area]

Moderator Comments

Kappy is on V/LA from June 27 to July 5.

[RachMarie]

I mean she is being fun with them, not getting all tense like she does in her scum game, but she also does not like my posting her scum game.

You do seem to be taking charge that is why I am saying that infin, its not a do or die read yet, but you are definitely not Thor, or Nacho two players I have seen be extra ballsy early on D 1 as scum.

[thenewearth]

Well someone's unnecessarily agressive

Hmmmm

[Infinity 324]

Who?

[thenewearth]

MM

I'm being pinged by it really. Something's up

[Infinity 324]

Yeah that's kinda what I thought too

[Ms Marangal]

TNE, you should know better, don't avoid my interactions with you.

[Ms Marangal]

Concerned?

More like curious.

And giving her a chance to productively interact with me.

What's the point of spoiling that before the interactions even gotten a chance to happen?

There is also no reason for infinity to be avoiding this, to either

[RedCoyote]

Oh, wow. I just realized that Kappy is V/LA until the 5th. I had no idea.

Mod

, I take it Kappy is staying in the game? I generally pay no mind to V/LA's because I assume either they are for 3 or 4 days or the slot gets replaced.

UNVOTE: Kappy

So, great, that roleslot basically gets a free pass D1 if he stays in the game. In the mean time, I'm going to VOTE: Infinity 324. This is a more productive use of my vote. LAMIST has been brought up, but, additionally, Infinity strikes me as highly... I don't know... removed from the game? I don't mean literally in that he's not around, he very much is, but he comes across as though he's observing or commentating on the game more than he does playing it, if that makes sense. I can go back through his posts and expand on this if someone is interested, but I hope I can get a wagon going here.

[Infinity 324]

Concerned?

More like curious.

And giving her a chance to productively interact with me.

What's the point of spoiling that before the interactions even gotten a chance to happen?

There is also no reason for infinity to be avoiding this, to either

I didn't see a need to answer it.

I thought you looked concerned, you say you were curious, ok

I didn't think I was interfering with your interaction, I was just commenting on your post.

Oh, wow. I just realized that Kappy is V/LA until the 5th. I had no idea.

Mod

, I take it Kappy is staying in the game? I generally pay no mind to V/LA's because I assume either they are for 3 or 4 days or the slot gets replaced.

Infinity strikes me as highly... I don't know... removed from the game? I don't mean literally in that he's not around, he very much is, but he comes across as though he's observing or commentating on the game more than he does playing it, if that makes sense.

I think I'm doing both (i.e. observing and interacting) pretty extensively.

[RedCoyote]

I don't, but I don't hold out hopes of convincing you. Let's see what others have to say.

[Shadow_step]

We should be lynching between Xy and TNE today.

[thenewearth]

Because... I'm 3rd in the wagon?

The fuck?

[thenewearth]

TNE, you should know better, don't avoid my interactions with you.

What's there to interact?

there's just a) you not agreeing with me, 2) b

[drmyshottyizsik]

TNE, you should know better, don't avoid my interactions with you.

This feels like coaching

[Infinity 324]

As much as I think xy is scum, I don't think we should be deciding the lynch for the day on page 6, shadow

[RachMarie]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66650

Newbie 1712 is now over so now I have a completed game with shadow. He was scum in that game.

That was why I was vague earlier because it was still ongoing at the time.

Not seeing the case on tne? I will skim through some of our old games, but this does not feel like his scum game?

@red please do expand because I have infin and you both as town reads.

[drmyshottyizsik]

It's early, but Shadow doesn't seem to be played as passively as he did in that newbie game.

[Equinox]

Mod

, I take it Kappy is staying in the game? I generally pay no mind to V/LA's because I assume either they are for 3 or 4 days or the slot gets replaced.

For this game, players are not being prodded or replaced automatically.

[xyzzy]

sorry for not posting for about 2 days, y'all; I've had a weirdly busy couple days for a couple reasons and haven't really had time to write much yet.

xy, if you really thought my argument was stupid, why did you say "kinda arbitrary" instead of "completely arbitrary"? Why did you even care that I voted you for something you thought was a shit reason?

Also I think we found the second scum (shotty).

1)because "a bit arbitrary" rolls off the tongue better? I don't know, sometimes people over- or underexaggerate. what a weird nitpick.
2)because I felt like the argument you were making was disingenuous.

Also to clarify for MM and rach

LAMIST = "HEY GUYS LOOK WHAT I'M DOING I'M BEING TOWN PLZ NO LYNCH"

Scum do that shit.

You can't do it as town because you're town to begin with.

idk I think it's very possible to panic and overcompensate as town. it's easier to do in lylo situations, but it can happen at any time.

TNE seems pretty town to me atm.

I wouldn't get too comfortable with her if she's sitting there saying there's scum between you and xyzzy unless you are pretty confident that xyzzy is scum. If I was in your shoes, I'd have to think on that one long and hard.

are you saying you think it's a bad idea to believe someone is town if that person believes you might be scum? because that seems like some really bad advice.

Reread the tread (yup, I'm a nerd like that)

I don't care if someone votes for me on page 1; that happens to nearly everyone most games, so deflecting attention from it would be absolutely pointless.

If you don't care if someone votes you, what was the point of 14?

this is mostly reiterating what I said earlier in this post, but not treating a very early vote as something extremely serious =/= questioning the logic behind a very early vote.

Oh, wow. I just realized that Kappy is V/LA until the 5th. I had no idea.

Mod

, I take it Kappy is staying in the game? I generally pay no mind to V/LA's because I assume either they are for 3 or 4 days or the slot gets replaced.

UNVOTE: Kappy

So, great, that roleslot basically gets a free pass D1 if he stays in the game. In the mean time, I'm going to VOTE: Infinity 324. This is a more productive use of my vote. LAMIST has been brought up, but, additionally, Infinity strikes me as highly... I don't know... removed from the game? I don't mean literally in that he's not around, he very much is, but he comes across as though he's observing or commentating on the game more than he does playing it, if that makes sense. I can go back through his posts and expand on this if someone is interested, but I hope I can get a wagon going here.

I agree with your comments on how Infinity is approaching this game. it feels off and distant.

after some thought I think I'm gonna VOTE: Infinity.

[Infinity 324]

xy, if you really thought my argument was stupid, why did you say "kinda arbitrary" instead of "completely arbitrary"? Why did you even care that I voted you for something you thought was a shit reason?

Also I think we found the second scum (shotty).

1)because "a bit arbitrary" rolls off the tongue better? I don't know, sometimes people over- or underexaggerate. what a weird nitpick.
2)because I felt like the argument you were making was disingenuous.

If you thought it was disingenuous, why didn't you say that before?

Also to clarify for MM and rach

LAMIST = "HEY GUYS LOOK WHAT I'M DOING I'M BEING TOWN PLZ NO LYNCH"

Scum do that shit.

You can't do it as town because you're town to begin with.

idk I think it's very possible to panic and overcompensate as town. it's easier to do in lylo situations, but it can happen at any time.

Is general comment or is it what you think I'm doing? Cause I definitely am not panicking.

I agree with your comments on how Infinity is approaching this game. it feels off and distant.

after some thought I think I'm gonna VOTE: Infinity.

^^ this is scum

[xyzzy]

xy, if you really thought my argument was stupid, why did you say "kinda arbitrary" instead of "completely arbitrary"? Why did you even care that I voted you for something you thought was a shit reason?

Also I think we found the second scum (shotty).

1)because "a bit arbitrary" rolls off the tongue better? I don't know, sometimes people over- or underexaggerate. what a weird nitpick.
2)because I felt like the argument you were making was disingenuous.

If you thought it was disingenuous, why didn't you say that before?

Also to clarify for MM and rach

LAMIST = "HEY GUYS LOOK WHAT I'M DOING I'M BEING TOWN PLZ NO LYNCH"

Scum do that shit.

You can't do it as town because you're town to begin with.

idk I think it's very possible to panic and overcompensate as town. it's easier to do in lylo situations, but it can happen at any time.

Is general comment or is it what you think I'm doing? Cause I definitely am not panicking.

I agree with your comments on how Infinity is approaching this game. it feels off and distant.

after some thought I think I'm gonna VOTE: Infinity.

^^ this is scum

1)I did? I mean, I didn't use the word "disingenuous" until that post, but I feel like I made that pretty clear?
2)nah I just meant it as a general comment.
3)I disagree, but alright.

[Infinity 324]

at that point there were two players who had voted without saying anything else; picking me as the one to focus on is a bit arbitrary.

This is the post I was talking about, I feel like you have no need to defend yourself and if you were trying to attack me you would've directly attacked me which you didn't.

Why do you feel the need to point out the fact that you disagree that you're scum?

[Infinity 324]

Oh I misread and thought you said you did say that word, anyway my point still stands.

[Infinity 324]

Sorry mod, but I'll be V/LA from july 10th to july 16