Mini 1794: Gunslingers Ahoy! {Game Over}


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Post Post #5025 (ISO) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:26 am

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Yeah you could have flipped Titus yesterday and won, IIRC.
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Post Post #5026 (ISO) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:28 am

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Oh yeah there was that thing where you guys put Titus to L-1

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Post Post #5027 (ISO) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:50 am

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@Infinity, To be fair, I am quite underhanded and hard to lynch as scum. I am sure Nero has a stack on that a mile given how much he's played with me.

I will explain the play yesterday and the day before, just in case.

On the day we lynched Dunn, I had to treat that as lylo once I began thinking Chumba was highly unreasonable town (from my perspective Chumba was trowing a tantrum at who didn't agree he was town which is very anti-town or scummy). He could not, under any circumstances vote scum. So the rest of the town had to agree.

When done flipped town, scum had to be on the wagon just be the numbers. Chilled voting and leaving made him obvious scum.

I could try a direct battle with Chilled, but that would likely bring up 500 Chumba posts saying I was scum for moonlogic reasons. Yet, if I never reached Chumba, the game was as good as lost anyway. I expected scum to be aware of this too and want to leave scum chilled open as a possibility.

The best way to get Chilled lynch was not to crack the game, but to let the last scum do it for us. By proxying our votes to murder, scum would have to bus or scumclaim unless murder became convinced I was scum. Infinity went a long as well. When Nero refused to give a direct response but called Murder town, it strongly suggested that he was scum.

Tldr: I wanted Murder to be the decider between me v chilled, rather than sheeping. Sheeping = highly likely loss.

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Post Post #5028 (ISO) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:15 am

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Titus, I would say you should be instantly awarded most cunning manipulator if you're scum, but that would mean you play quite suboptimally at times too...
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Post Post #5029 (ISO) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:27 am

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I almost won most cunning manipulator is what Nero would say.

I'm like 95% sure it's Nero, 5% murdercat.
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Post Post #5030 (ISO) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:32 am

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The point is that you faked stuff so well and it would be much easier to use that towncred to push mislynches that would actually go through (ok, there was dunn, but still) instead of chumba and your scumbuddies.
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Post Post #5031 (ISO) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:36 am

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I mean I knew what you were doing, it's just that it would make sense as scum and town.
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Post Post #5032 (ISO) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:41 am

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Okie dokie.

Well I said my piece. We're waiting on Nero now.
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Post Post #5033 (ISO) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:41 pm

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Votecount 5.1

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: Titus, MURDERCAT, infinity 324, Nero Cain

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Post Post #5034 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:42 am

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Still think its Titus. I'll begrudgingly agree that Insanity is town. This is mainly to let you guys know that I'm still here and I'll be posting it up when I get more time.
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Post Post #5035 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:51 am

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Did you miss the part where I'm confirmed town
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Post Post #5036 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 4:58 am

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That's why it's begrudgingly. He knows he'll never get a mislynch on you due to yesterday.

I think Murder scum eliminates me yesterday when he had the chance. So that leaves Nero.

P.S. I don't think anyone minds if I say infinity has the hammer.
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Post Post #5037 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:36 am

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Yeah. We are 3-1 so we can all safely vote except for infinity.

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Post Post #5038 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:37 am

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Had absolutely no contact with the outside world for five days, but I'm here now ; ).

I would give you a VC if there wasn't already one : (
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Post Post #5039 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:48 pm

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In post 5036, Titus wrote:That's why it's begrudgingly. He knows he'll never get a mislynch on you due to yesterday.
A+ use of strongly worded bullshit here. Like the guy already thinks I'm scum and thus is probs going to vote me as soon as you vote me (unless Murder unvotes) but I mean...trying to put it in his mind that I'm upset that I can't vote him is just silly and pointed and
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Post Post #5040 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:49 pm

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oh...the reason that its begrudgingly 'cause I don't like being wrong and you know that.
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Post Post #5041 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:51 pm

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In post 5035, Infinity 324 wrote:Did you miss the part where I'm confirmed town
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Post Post #5042 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:59 pm

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In post 5027, Titus wrote:once I began thinking Chumba was highly unreasonable town
This is actually a large reason why I think you are scum. Like you having this sudden epiphany that Chumba was town seems pretty unlike the town Titus was all know and hate outside of Drixx, Fire and Ika.

Although Infinity is just going to scream WIFOM!!! me killing Chumba is downright stupid.
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Post Post #5043 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:09 pm

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In post 5022, Infinity 324 wrote:Titus's play just doesn't make sense as scum. She hardbusses kuroi d2, kuroi claims doctor, chumba counterclaims doctor. She then uses moonlogic to make a push on chumba, but doesn't seem to be trying very hard to convince people to vote chumba and continues the push long after it's clear chumba isn't getting lynched.
Are we reading the same game here? Like this makes a ton of sense from a scum POV. Firstly, scum bus and Titus has bussed. Like its been awhile but I remember a game where she was spouting her self meta about being anti bussing but actually bussed or had been bussing her scumbuddies in the past and then claimed that she doesn't bus or anymore...but the point is scum are more than capable of bussing so I'm not really sure why you say she couldn't have bussed Kuroi. Chumba was town so her pushing on Chumba again makes perfect sense as scum. Infact, I said this earlier but town Titus wouldn't have backed down on her Chumba read and would have tried harder to lynch him.

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Post Post #5044 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:13 pm

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In post 5022, Infinity 324 wrote:avoid the no kill which is basically an instant loss.
a no kill isn't an insta loss. As long as scum is not lynched they can kill the next night and win the game.
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Post Post #5045 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:50 pm

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In post 5044, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5022, Infinity 324 wrote:avoid the no kill which is basically an instant loss.
a no kill isn't an insta loss. As long as scum is not lynched they can kill the next night and win the game.
Nope, then it's 4 v. 1 and town gets 2 chances.
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Post Post #5046 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:51 pm

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Titus, why should I townread you?
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Post Post #5047 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:57 pm

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Nero, why should I townread you?

Why should I scumread titus other than her changing her chumba read?
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Post Post #5048 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:59 pm

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Murder lynch is out of the question.

I'll give you guys a few days, but there's no point in waiting longer than that
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Post Post #5049 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:08 pm

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Nero, you seem to know titus well. Why did you think she was town before?
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