Mini Normal 1809: Game Over

[Wake1]

You excusing his blatant violation of site rules is also noted, Wake.

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[Robbnva]

Not hoopla. I meant molla

[House]

You excusing his blatant violation of site rules is also noted, Wake.

What did he do that's against the site rules?

Already discussed and he even admitted it.

[Robbnva]

Rob because he's a terrorist that is also lying about being a pr.

I'm not lying

I don't lie

[Vedith]

Not hoopla. I meant molla

Just when I started to think you were on track...

[Wake1]

House, if Robb retracts the demand will you put BBmolla back on the table where he belongs Day 1?

[House]

I've already clarified with a site mod that my punishment will result in a mod kill and a temporary site ban. It's not egregious enough for a permanent ban.

Out of curiosity, when will this happen?

[Robbnva]

Robb, House, question time.

At the moment which 3 players are you willing to lynch?

Please answer, because it matters, especially later in the game.

Hoopla, house, and idk about the 3rd. Maybe masq?


Question for everyone. Assume I stop my counter and just "play the game"

How in the hell can I just sit by watching scum get off Scott free and basically ignored for the rest of the game?

I think of you retract your timer-demand it'll help you in this game.

You're allowed to ask questions. You're allowed to ask many questions.

Sure I can ask questions but nobody would answer them cause they would all be surrounding molla or asking why he wasn't lynched yet.

[House]

House, if Robb retracts the demand will you put BBmolla back on the table where he belongs Day 1?

The second he's modkilled, absolutely.

I'm NOT giving him a pass after everything he's done to destroy this game.

I'll take it to mith if I have to.

[Wake1]

Robb, House, question time.

At the moment which 3 players are you willing to lynch?

Please answer, because it matters, especially later in the game.

Hoopla, house, and idk about the 3rd. Maybe masq?


Question for everyone. Assume I stop my counter and just "play the game"

How in the hell can I just sit by watching scum get off Scott free and basically ignored for the rest of the game?

I think of you retract your timer-demand it'll help you in this game.

You're allowed to ask questions. You're allowed to ask many questions.

Sure I can ask questions but nobody would answer them cause they would all be surrounding molla or asking why he wasn't lynched yet.

Like I advised Elyse (is she still in this game?), don't make assumptions.

Stop making assumptions.

[Robbnva]

I've already clarified with a site mod that my punishment will result in a mod kill and a temporary site ban. It's not egregious enough for a permanent ban.

Out of curiosity, when will this happen?

Was going to be tomorrow but I'm feeling froggy today.

[Wake1]

House, if Robb retracts the demand will you put BBmolla back on the table where he belongs Day 1?

The second he's modkilled, absolutely.

I'm NOT giving him a pass after everything he's done to destroy this game.

I'll take it to mith if I have to.

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He hasn't destroyed anything. He's only been mildly annoying at times. That's it. He hasn't destroyed anything.

I feel like you're over-reacting, but I can't tell if it's from a Town or Scum mindset.

[Robbnva]

Assumptions about what?

[Wake1]

Dierfire, could you intervene? I feel this 'issue' requires preemptive mod intervention.

[Wake1]

Assumptions about what?

Assuming nobody would answer your questions, and that they would all be surrounding BBmolla.

He's as random as everyone else and only a fool would think otherwise.

[Robbnva]

What can dier do? If he force replaces me Don't you think that will just force my hand? Do you think force replacing me would stop me from what I want to do?

At this point mod intervention only makes it worse

I'm not making assumptions about me asking questions about molla cause until he's lynched I'm not focusing on anyone else.

[House]

I feel like you're over-reacting, but I can't tell if it's from a Town or Scum mindset.

This feels scummy.

Wake knows I'm subtle as scum and don't make waves outside of the occasional hard bus based on grounds so nonsensical it has zero chance of succeeding and actually deters scumreads on the person I'm voting.

If I was scum, I'd be LOVING this atmosphere Rob has created.

He's searching for an excuse to justify voting me because he knows I'll catch him out if he scum.

[House]

What can dier do? If he force replaces me Don't you think that will just force my hand? Do you think force replacing me would stop me from what I want to do?

At this point mod intervention only makes it worse

Note hrs even threatening the MODS!

When is enough, enough?!

[Wake1]

The second Robb's modkilled I'm willing to put BBmolla back on the table.

until BBmolla's lynched I'm not focusing on anyone else.

[Masquerade]

If Molla was seriously claiming, then why did he hand the popcorn to someone that is supposedly modconfirmed to him?

[Robbnva]

If Molla was seriously claiming, then why did he hand the popcorn to someone that is supposedly modconfirmed to him?

We aren't even talking about his lol mason claim

[Robbnva]

We are talking about him falsely accusing somebody of something
We're talking about him asking for a mass claim
We're talking about him saying mass claims requests day 1 usually come from scum

[Masquerade]

I know. And I'm telling you why I didn't take Molla's claim seriously.

[Robbnva]

oh well I didn't ask but thank you

[Grendel]

The red text are questions, the green text are answers/responses to things I missed.

If you're not keen on reading walls, at least check to see if I asked you a question, or responded to something you asked me before.

I'll post my reads list after this.

Spoiler: Pages 1 through 11

Page 1
Joke posts and some RVS, ehh not sure if I can glean much from this, but I’ll try.
It becomes much clearer that the mason thing was a joke looking back at house’s opening post. Also noticing it was him who started it, and not bbmolla as I had mistakenly recalled.
Looking at Cmitc1’s post 22 I have to wonder what exactly he found weird about Hoolpa’s reaction to Bbmolla. I guess OMGUS is why, but its RVS so that’s kind of silly. Better then nothing I guess.
Am taking note that Robnva is the first to cast a non-RVS vote. Props to you, Rob. The “stupid accusation” is excusable given its early D1, and not overreacting can make the game constipated.

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Oh, I guess Cmitc1 did explain why he didn’t like Hoopla’s reaction. I was right about his possible reasoning though. Nice read list at post 45 btw, you just forgot to mention I’m town.
BBmolla has a town read on Robnva at post 37. Huh?
Mask’s opening post is just a RVS vote. Lame.
Hoopla’s town block party sounds like fun. I’m making a snap judgment here, but I want to think Hoopla is town. Gut read, basically.
I agree with what House and other(s?) have said about Vedith’s post at 47. Sounds weird, I don’t see how Hoopla’s post 43 is buddying, as Vedith implied.
@49 I’m Noting that Chaos was the first person to ask Cmitc about his experience, and that Cmitc was one of Choas’s first player interactions. I’m keeping an eye on their future interactions.

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@ 50&51 Cmitc1… ya?
@ 54 Oh hey, House and I are on the same wave length here. And I guess Rob too.

@57 Bad post by Blank. Maybe the omission means something, maybe not, why are you discouraging the exploration of it though? Just seems like an unnecessary post.

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@ 58 Same to Cmitc1. Except maybe worse since it looks defensive.
@59 & 61 Noting that Rob pointed that out, and Hoopla defends Cmitc1.

@ 69 To answer Cmitc’s concerns: I think mass claiming is best served a day before lylo. Or as he put it, “when the majority is at risk”, except one day before. I notice that you said something akin to “I’d scum read this slot if it weren’t so early into D1”

How do you feel about Blankface now

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@ 65 & 71 Mollaaaa these look sooo baaddd. I don’t know where you get off telling people their stupid when they scum read you when you make such contradictory posts. >.>

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@ 76 & 84 Robbnva and Elyse call Molla out on his crap. Good on them.
@ all of page 4 Molla is horrible. If I had been there at the time I probably would have voted him out of anger alone. Not even mentioning his contradictory mass claim.
@88 Yes Molla, and you would deserve getting reported given how awful you’re treating people.

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@ 101 & 107 Rob is very blunt in his dislike of RQS. To the point he is overtly dismissive. Like more then he needed to be.
@ 104 Molla’s reaction is a text book anti-RQS argument.
@ 106 Cmitc1’s reaction is… paranoia (?). Not even logical a paranoia. Weak.
@ 112-114 Molla is the only one trying to make a real argument here, better than the others right now.

Out of interest Molla, have you even tried RQS before?

Much of want you’re saying sounds like regurgitated ‘facts’ that you’ve probably heard others say about RQS.

@ 117 House, what is the motivation of this post?

Your interaction here with Rob is actually civil, and… off (?) in a way I can’t seem to place.
@ 118 lol, wow, Cmitc1 is quoting other peoples arguments instead of making his own opinion known. For future reference:

I hate it when people do that.

@ 122 House was the first to volunteer time to engage with me. Thank you House.
@ 123

Robbnva, I don’t think that is always the case. The information is the same, but the way it’s said (vague, guarded, middling, etc), and the rate they share info is key. And there are some questions that are harder to answer as scum then town imo. I’ll clarify further when I put up my RQS analysis later.

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Politics… Why?
@ 138 Mask makes a decent post, and humored me. Thats cool.
@147 Thanks Robbnva.
@146&148 I think this is why I took the mason thing seriously…

Page 7
@154 I agree with the masses on Vedith being weird at this point. Don’t see anything really lynch worthy yet though.

@158 Hoopla how much do you trust Cmitc1 exactly?

Not that Cmitc’s vote here is bad; just other things are bothering me about him so far.

@164 House, how does the game progress if we don’t get all “serous sauce” at some point? You’re almost as defensive of Molla as Molla is lol

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@166 to 171 is some real AtE, and I’m buying it… I too think Molla is town.
@172 I know its response to Elyse, but House does seem pretty off to me a this point. Or since 164 I guess.
@174 Originally why I asked the “Are you enjoying the game” question to House is because I misinterpreted this here post as dissatisfaction towards the game.

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@ 179 Hoopla is sadistic lol. But town, this and several other posts look town to me.
@182 ChaosOmega ‘s second post is good. Not enough for me to take back the “ya” suspicion though.
@183 Hehe yeah Vedith is not gonna touch my town reads. Bad questions.
@185 Egg is interesting.
@196

Egg, I didn’t say it at the time, but I kind of wish you hadn’t evaluated the RQS refusals. I was intending to do that myself alongside RQS answer analysis. That said you didn’t actually say anything I disagreed with. Soooo… thanks for doing my work for me I guess???
Also, thanks for submitting some answers.

@197 Elyse > Vedith right now.

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@208 Egg’s responses are very golden. I’m noting Egg’s experience and skill. I like a lot he is saying, but I won’t rush to town read him. Not entirely sure I agree with the push on Robbnva honestly.

Robbnva is basically the most black and white thinker I’ve played mafia with. Not sure if this it is a positive or negative. I will say that engaging with him on anything he disagrees with would be a waste of time. It looks like he just disagree on principle every time tbh.

If I were to disagree with you Robbnva, what is the likely hood that I could convince you I’m right on a matter?

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@245 Robbnva you wanted to get know me better as a player? Or a person?
@246 Why was that Eyse? Broad, tired, what?

@249 Well House, you failed the test. And your rebuttal didn’t help at all.

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@ 254 Wake, I’m inclined to disagree, but at least you answered.
@252 Idk why but I’m starting to think that Egg feels bad for me, and that’s why he is being so nice, and quick to town read me.

@265 Mask 3) Remind me after the game is over, and I’ll say something nice about your play this game.
5) Hmm… okay. I’d say that makes some sense.
6) I let people interpret this as they see fit, but I personally think of a D1 trust/buddy as somebody I like to use as a sounding board for my thoughts in the thread proper. So its less about perceived aliment, and more about having a “study buddy”, or some such. But I like to let people think I’m talking about alignment specifically because it can get more… useful responses. Unfortunately, I get results like yours as well where their answer is , “Not my style”, which is an unhelpful null read imo.

@268 Noting that Chaos is going after Vedith with the most aggression of people in the roster so far.
@274 Once again House is defending BBmolla...

Glancing ahead to future pages I'm thinking House is who I would like to lynch.

I may try to do the other pages later, but for now I'm satisfied enough to VOTE: House