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Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:02 pm

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A50, you're fucking stupid.
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Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:03 pm

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Dunnstral your list doesn't help. At least briefly say what the player did in each post.
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Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:04 pm

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Town:
1-shot Vig
Jailkeeper
Miller
Macho Town

vs

Mafia Neapolitan

Mafia Neapolitan gets a not vanilla result on the miller and macho town (though those are both likely things town claims, anyway, and they wouldn't check there)
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Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:04 pm

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I'd prefer to just go back and look at what Lapsa did from the beginning, from a new angle
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Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:05 pm

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Transcend wrote:This is certainly a this. How about let's kill this.

VOTE: implosion
Transcelsius pls I know
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Who would have killed Lapsa?
Aside from me of course, who on mafia?
Hmmm... There's only one way I know to test this theory I have.

I'll get back to you tomorrow If I'm alive.


Titus, you are dumb.

Wake88 wrote:Dunnstral your list doesn't help. At least briefly say what the player did in each post.
Dude, I've been waiting so long for the Annihilator Beam.
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Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:05 pm

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Honestly claiming jailkeeper was a bad move, you don't even think I'm mafia or anything? Just wrong apparently
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Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:06 pm

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That quote @Transcend I didn't finish, I know you obvtown read Performer but that may be a bad school of thought to maintain
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Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:08 pm

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YOu don't have anything on performer
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Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:10 pm

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Dunnstral wrote:YOu don't have anything on performer
I do, I told you to keep pushing town though I won't get in the way
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Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:12 pm

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I'm not pushing anyone right now, a50 claimed jailkeeper

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:18 pm

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Alright, I examined Lapsa's iso

1: He talked to me a lot. This is useless.
2. He suspected Titus. However, I think Titus would have killed me, instead. It looks more like somebody trying to frame Titus, than Titus being actual mafia
3. He was maybe killed if Mirhawk is mafia to do both 2 and try to get suspicion off of mirhawk

Right now, best bet:
VOTE: Mirhawk
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Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:24 pm

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In post 3000, Transcend wrote:A50, you're fucking stupid.
Thank you. I guess you would've preferred we go back and forth on me for the next week before I got to L-1 and claimed OR someone derp hammered before I even get to claim?? Let's not forget you also scum read me yesterday, so I claimed to save us time. Besides, me eating a bullet provides town with one more investigative result, no? I mean, if SCUM had a cop then we must have something like a Tracker or a WATCHER!

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Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:27 pm

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Sorry for L-1ing the dead guy (but not sorry becuase it was the right result), I didn't realise he was at L-2. Will count in future.
In post 2928, Titus wrote:
In post 2926, Dunnstral wrote:What do you think of my claim?
I don't think I should answer that. Obvious reasons.
Same reason that I claimed Dunn as a mason.[/quote]


Fairly unhappy with this response for Titus. Either you get the read from somewhere legit and you can share why you have it, or you don't have it.

In post 2964, Almost50 wrote:OK.. I'm totally lost, so you guys work it out.

1- I'm the Jailkeeper
2- Dunn didn't shoot Lapsa bc I Jailed HIM (Dunn).
3- I let him go with it to see if he was faking, and it looks to me that he totally believed his shit, so he may still be a vig and all, but he DID NOT SHOOT LAPSA! Period.
Why not just let this point go and keep the JK in the game? I feel we've lost more than we've gained here.

VOTE: Mirhawk based on what Dunn says in 3010
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Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:30 pm

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In post 3012, shannon wrote: VOTE: Mirhawk based on what Dunn says in 3010

Even I didn't think it was
that
convincing of an argument :shifty:
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Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:30 pm

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But it's a possibility
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Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:39 pm

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In post 3005, Dunnstral wrote:Honestly claiming jailkeeper was a bad move, you don't even think I'm mafia or anything? Just wrong apparently
OK.. bad or good, it's done and over with. Saying it was a bad move won't take it back nor will it help catch scum.

OK, so Dunn, Zach & Shannon are totally off my table for the lynch. I'm likely to still give room for Varsoon and Titus too (though I'll have to admit the phrasing of the Varsoon post at the start of this day felt off to me). I probably don't want Boem or Wake lynched either, as I'm getting infrequent town vibes from them. Probably Airick too.

Other than those above; I'm open to suggestions, provided they're not "vote X bc they're scummy" or "their posts feel bad".

P.S. I almost got confused between this game and another, so if you see me mentioning something that so doesn't make sense at all (like mentioning a player or a mechanic that isn't even in this game) you should know it's that.

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Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:42 pm

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It's still perfectly possible A50 is mafia but certainly less likely and certainly not today's lynch so.
Unvote

VOTE: Mirhawk
And i swear if anyone calls this vote opportunistic after what i've been saying today there will be words.

These are also all of Mirhawk's comments on Vedith:
I'm not really feeling Ved, his posts strike me as more newtown then anything else. I could go this way if we have no better options, but eh.
Soft PR claim from Ved.
Some people are voting Titus for one of the Mason gambits, some people are voting Vedith for replacing into a lurker slot then generating little content, and some people are voting AGar for reasons I don't really understand. Smart people are voting Shannon because she keeps making gross posts.
No mention of Nosferatu. No mention of Mirhawk from Vedith except for responding to the latter two of these in and both of which I can easily see as S->S. I haven't looked at the iso from mirhawk in depth yet (I've delved a bit more into vedith but not a ton) but these are some pretty lackluster interactions.
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Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:50 pm

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In post 3016, implosion wrote:It's still perfectly possible A50 is mafia but certainly less likely and certainly not today's lynch so.
I don't like this. Scum hate having people practically clear in the town's eyes.
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Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:56 pm

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In post 3017, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 3016, implosion wrote:It's still perfectly possible A50 is mafia but certainly less likely and certainly not today's lynch so.
I don't like this. Scum hate having people practically clear in the town's eyes.
1) Why do you think he should be practically clear?
2) If this is the case then why have I been pushing that so damn many people (lapsa, you, titus, dunnstral, maybe others that i can't name off the top of my head) should be practically clear in the town's eyes?
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Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:57 pm

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In post 2832, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Almost50

I think this is where I want to go today. Titus is absolutely town so back off
In post 2859, implosion wrote:If theres a town roleblocker then they
can
out who they targeted but it's not like Dunn's claim actually confirms him. Lapsa also was really, really obvious town from the macho claim (and other things) but he wasn't listening to anything anyone was saying so it's not like it's the biggest deal.

I agree with VC analysis being important here; from my point of view I tend to think either airick or almost50 is scum from it based on the AGar wagon (which, I agree even though I was on it, was probably largely a counterwagon) and a stronger townread on podoboq. I'd say I'm unsure on AGar now. The end result of yesterday is enough to sway me from scumreading him at least for now.

Saying we need to put pressure on Titus is pointless. She had the most pressure applied to her of any player yesterday by far for the entire day.

VOTE: Almost50
In post 3010, Dunnstral wrote:Alright, I examined Lapsa's iso

1: He talked to me a lot. This is useless.
2. He suspected Titus. However, I think Titus would have killed me, instead. It looks more like somebody trying to frame Titus, than Titus being actual mafia
3. He was maybe killed if Mirhawk is mafia to do both 2 and try to get suspicion off of mirhawk

Right now, best bet:
VOTE: Mirhawk
In post 3016, implosion wrote:It's still perfectly possible A50 is mafia but certainly less likely and certainly not today's lynch so.
Unvote

VOTE: Mirhawk
And i swear if anyone calls this vote opportunistic after what i've been saying today there will be words.

These are also all of Mirhawk's comments on Vedith:
I'm not really feeling Ved, his posts strike me as more newtown then anything else. I could go this way if we have no better options, but eh.
Soft PR claim from Ved.
Some people are voting Titus for one of the Mason gambits, some people are voting Vedith for replacing into a lurker slot then generating little content, and some people are voting AGar for reasons I don't really understand. Smart people are voting Shannon because she keeps making gross posts.
No mention of Nosferatu. No mention of Mirhawk from Vedith except for responding to the latter two of these in and both of which I can easily see as S->S. I haven't looked at the iso from mirhawk in depth yet (I've delved a bit more into vedith but not a ton) but these are some pretty lackluster interactions.
I'm OK with this I guess...
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Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:58 pm

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In post 3018, implosion wrote:
In post 3017, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 3016, implosion wrote:It's still perfectly possible A50 is mafia but certainly less likely and certainly not today's lynch so.
I don't like this. Scum hate having people practically clear in the town's eyes.
1) Why do you think he should be practically clear?
2) If this is the case then why have I been pushing that so damn many people (lapsa, you, titus, dunnstral, maybe others that i can't name off the top of my head) should be practically clear in the town's eyes?
1) I believe if he was a scum RB it's too much of a risk to claim like that. And when he would not turn up as dead in the future it would arouse suspicion. The slot reads pretty Town to me.

2) I don't know? Have any of those pushes worked?
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Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:00 pm

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How was Lapsa "practically clear"?
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Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:01 pm

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Dunnstral wrote:How was Lapsa "practically clear"?
I was referring to A50
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Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:01 pm

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In post 3019, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2832, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Almost50

I think this is where I want to go today. Titus is absolutely town so back off
In post 2859, implosion wrote:If theres a town roleblocker then they
can
out who they targeted but it's not like Dunn's claim actually confirms him. Lapsa also was really, really obvious town from the macho claim (and other things) but he wasn't listening to anything anyone was saying so it's not like it's the biggest deal.

I agree with VC analysis being important here; from my point of view I tend to think either airick or almost50 is scum from it based on the AGar wagon (which, I agree even though I was on it, was probably largely a counterwagon) and a stronger townread on podoboq. I'd say I'm unsure on AGar now. The end result of yesterday is enough to sway me from scumreading him at least for now.

Saying we need to put pressure on Titus is pointless. She had the most pressure applied to her of any player yesterday by far for the entire day.

VOTE: Almost50
In post 3010, Dunnstral wrote:Alright, I examined Lapsa's iso

1: He talked to me a lot. This is useless.
2. He suspected Titus. However, I think Titus would have killed me, instead. It looks more like somebody trying to frame Titus, than Titus being actual mafia
3. He was maybe killed if Mirhawk is mafia to do both 2 and try to get suspicion off of mirhawk

Right now, best bet:
VOTE: Mirhawk
In post 3016, implosion wrote:It's still perfectly possible A50 is mafia but certainly less likely and certainly not today's lynch so.
Unvote

VOTE: Mirhawk
And i swear if anyone calls this vote opportunistic after what i've been saying today there will be words.

These are also all of Mirhawk's comments on Vedith:
I'm not really feeling Ved, his posts strike me as more newtown then anything else. I could go this way if we have no better options, but eh.
Soft PR claim from Ved.
Some people are voting Titus for one of the Mason gambits, some people are voting Vedith for replacing into a lurker slot then generating little content, and some people are voting AGar for reasons I don't really understand. Smart people are voting Shannon because she keeps making gross posts.
No mention of Nosferatu. No mention of Mirhawk from Vedith except for responding to the latter two of these in and both of which I can easily see as S->S. I haven't looked at the iso from mirhawk in depth yet (I've delved a bit more into vedith but not a ton) but these are some pretty lackluster interactions.
I'm OK with this I guess...
Looks a little like implosion is following your vote.
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Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:02 pm

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In post 3022, Zachstralkita wrote:
Dunnstral wrote:How was Lapsa "practically clear"?
I was referring to A50
And I was talking to implosion...

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