Open 643: Kill All Townies! (Game Over)

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #950 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:16 am

In post 949, Almost50 wrote:Why should I think even about the possibility of you flipping town when I'm convinced you're scum??

Because I'm Town, duh. Not even going to entertain the possibility? That's beyond sloppy.

Almost50 · Post Post #951 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:10 am

I'm going to entertain the possibility when I do see it. If I had a realistic probability of you flipping town I would not have voted you. Your arguments are getting sillier by the post btw.

But you know what?? Humour me. Who do you think is scum and why. How come you want the town seer lynched?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #952 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:05 am

In post 951, Almost50 wrote:I'm going to entertain the possibility when I do see it. If I had a realistic probability of you flipping town I would not have voted you. Your arguments are getting sillier by the post btw.

But you know what?? Humour me. Who do you think is scum and why. How come you want the town seer lynched?

Because I don't believe she is the Town seer. Its a BS claim that I have seen Ranger do before. Honestly I think Ranger is just seeing what they can get away with.

What's silly about my argument? I said you had a shitty comment and people agreed. Now you are acting like you are confident of you Scum read. I find this a "derp" account of actions I am seeing from you. When questioned of your confidence you double down and try and turn the tables on me.

What makes you believe the claim of Ranger?

I will have to reread some things to get a list of who I think is Scum.. my heart is just not in this game currently so I am just commenting on things as they come up.

Almost50 · Post Post #953 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:38 am

In post 952, LicketyQuickety wrote:What makes you believe the claim of Ranger?

Well, the fact there IS a seer in the setup with no CC or even a hint of one for starters. Then my knowledge of Ranger as I don't think she would risk being CC'd for no apparent reason. She was not at L-1 or L-2. She just came out of the blue to claim she checked on you, and -even more- that she did NOT get a guilty, thus deducing you must be the Alpha Wolf.

Now I do realize the last part is speculative and you could indeed be either town or Mafia, but it's not about that. I'm addressing the issue of why I do believe Ranger's claim to be the seer.

So, me scum reading you does coincide with Ranger's (or anyone else's) promotion for your lynch, which is apparently why I'm voting you. Two separate issues: My read of you as "scum" and my belief of Ranger's claim to be the seer should now be clear to you.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #954 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:45 am

In post 953, Almost50 wrote:
In post 952, LicketyQuickety wrote:What makes you believe the claim of Ranger?
Well, the fact there IS a seer in the setup with no CC or even a hint of one for starters. Then my knowledge of Ranger as I don't think she would risk being CC'd for no apparent reason. She was not at L-1 or L-2. She just came out of the blue to claim she checked on you, and -even more- that she did NOT get a guilty, thus deducing you must be the Alpha Wolf.

Now I do realize the last part is speculative and you could indeed be either town or Mafia, but it's not about that. I'm addressing the issue of why I do believe Ranger's claim to be the seer.

So, me scum reading you does coincide with Ranger's (or anyone else's) promotion for your lynch, which is apparently why I'm voting you. Two separate issues: My read of you as "scum" and my belief of Ranger's claim to be the seer should now be clear to you.

Ask yourself why Seer should out themselves because of Rangers claim. Its a claim that they investigated me and I came up innocent, but Ranger was still convinced I was Alpha WW with no reason given for that particular read. What does Seer have to gain from outing themselves? I'll tell you.. they gain a lynch on Ranger who appears to be making a bogus claim while ensuring their own death by NK.

pistachi0n · Post Post #955 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:45 am

When did Ranger claim seer? The closest I'm seeing is when she said "because I rolecopped him, duh."

Ranger · Post Post #956 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:17 pm

Titus wrote:They are joking about the rolecop, which means they didn't really answer my question though.

Nonetheless, my statement was accurate. LicketyQuickety will flip Alpha Werewolf.

LicketyQuickety wrote:Because she is Scum and tripped up saying I couldn't be Mafia.

This would be valid on D1 with no flips.
It's not D1.

I haven't fully diverged my scumreads into scumteams yet, but I can start today.
And you, my friend, are a werewolf, and more specifically, the investigation-immune alpha werewolf.

Not_Mafia · Post Post #957 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:21 pm

VOTE: Chip butty

Ranger · Post Post #958 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:24 pm

Almost50 wrote:Well, the fact there IS a seer in the setup with no CC or even a hint of one for starters.

You know...I

was

gonna let the seer comment slide, because that would make me good NK bait allowing the real seer to survive, but.

If there's a risk of the real seer thinking I am claiming seer, and therefore feeling the need to counterclaim, I absolutely need to shut that line of thought down.

I am not the seer.
I was not attempting to claim seer.
I was okay with people

assuming

I am the seer, for obvious reasons, but I'm not okay with the actual seer thinking I was claiming seer.

Almost50 · Post Post #959 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:33 pm

@LQ:

So you think Scum!Ranger would fake claim unprompted? For what? To out the seer, I presume. But you yourself pointed out why the seer wouldn't out themselves. So, what IS the point of her playing that gambit??

Also, assuming she is a WW gambitting, she's already outed herself and will be lynched if she is still alive tomorrow, so why not hunt for the other two of either scum squad today? I mean, even if we catch just one of them (and mislynch someone), the odds are still in our favour. No?

But I do see your point. IF she is gambitting then she must be the Goon (Basic WW) relying on the Doctor protection to save her tonight. Needless to say the Alpha WW wouldn't need to out themselves in such a way.

OK..

UNVOTE:

For now..

Almost50 · Post Post #960 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:34 pm

In post 955, pistachi0n wrote:When did Ranger claim seer? The closest I'm seeing is when she said "because I rolecopped him, duh."

yes, and my mind translated this into "I am the seer and I checked LQ and he came clear but I'm not convinced".

Almost50 · Post Post #961 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:35 pm

In post 957, Not_Mafia wrote:VOTE: Chip butty

I wish you would explain a little bc with half the people voting w/o proper explanation I can't even develop proper reads on either the voter or their vote target!!

Almost50 · Post Post #962 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:36 pm

In post 958, Ranger wrote:
Almost50 wrote:Well, the fact there IS a seer in the setup with no CC or even a hint of one for starters.
You know...I
was
gonna let the seer comment slide, because that would make me good NK bait allowing the real seer to survive, but.

If there's a risk of the real seer thinking I am claiming seer, and therefore feeling the need to counterclaim, I absolutely need to shut that line of thought down.

I am not the seer.
I was not attempting to claim seer.
I was okay with people
assuming
I am the seer, for obvious reasons, but I'm not okay with the actual seer thinking I was claiming seer.

This could be so or it could be you back pedaling when the real seer didn't outright CC. In other words, you're making it worse now.

pistachi0n · Post Post #963 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:48 pm

Ranger--since you are not claiming an investigation, why are you sure that LQ is the alpha werewolf specifically? Why not any other wereworlf?

Ranger · Post Post #964 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:52 pm

pistachi0n wrote:Ranger--since you are not claiming an investigation, why are you sure that LQ is the alpha werewolf specifically?

I'll tell you after he's lynched if it's that important for you to know.

Until then, I don't see how revealing why I know would do any good.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #965 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:06 pm

In post 956, Ranger wrote:
Titus wrote:They are joking about the rolecop, which means they didn't really answer my question though.
Nonetheless, my statement was accurate. LicketyQuickety will flip Alpha Werewolf.

WRONG!

K, so I'm willing to flip myself if it means Ranger is the next lynch.

In post 956, Ranger wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:Because she is Scum and tripped up saying I couldn't be Mafia.
This would be valid on D1 with no flips.
It's not D1.

I haven't fully diverged my scumreads into scumteams yet, but I can start today.
And you, my friend, are a werewolf, and more specifically, the investigation-immune alpha werewolf.

You make me sick Ranger.

OK, so lets make this a proper 1v1. Either myself or Ranger is getting voted off today. Fair?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #966 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:12 pm

Ranger, if you really are Seer and actually think I am Alpha WW, I might just be blacklisting you.

Smithereens · Post Post #967 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:00 pm

I buy that hiplop looks fishy, but I think there are players here using the wrong idea of how scum will behave. Imo scum will be scum hunting in order to find and eliminate the other scum team, hiplop isn't doing that.

hiplop · Post Post #968 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:48 pm

if I fail to catchup by tomorrow, replace me out. Bunch of awful shitty things keep happening to me

Rob14 · Post Post #969 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:18 pm

Vote Count #2.2:

hiplop:

pistachi0n, DixC, Chip Butty (3)

LicketyQuickety:

Ranger, Smithereens, Kop (3)

Ranger:

LicketyQuickety (1)

Almost50:

Bellaphant (1)

Chip Butty:

Not_Mafia (1)

DixC:

Charloux (1)

Not Voting:

Titus, hiplop, Almost50

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

V/LA:

KuroiXHF until 7/7.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-07-19 08:00:00)

Almost50 · Post Post #970 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:25 pm

In post 968, hiplop wrote:
if I fail to catchup by tomorrow, replace me out. Bunch of awful shitty things keep happening to me

I'm accusing hiplop of hacking the whole site to avoid getting replaced

pistachi0n · Post Post #971 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:55 pm

In post 964, Ranger wrote:
pistachi0n wrote:Ranger--since you are not claiming an investigation, why are you sure that LQ is the alpha werewolf specifically?
I'll tell you after he's lynched if it's that important for you to know.

Until then, I don't see how revealing why I know would do any good.

The only way you could know

for sure

who the alpha werewolf is is if you are a werewolf. Otherwise, you can have a

strong suspicion

, but you are not certain.

So, I think you're full of shit.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #972 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:03 pm

In post 971, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 964, Ranger wrote:
pistachi0n wrote:Ranger--since you are not claiming an investigation, why are you sure that LQ is the alpha werewolf specifically?
I'll tell you after he's lynched if it's that important for you to know.

Until then, I don't see how revealing why I know would do any good.
The only way you could know
for sure
who the alpha werewolf is is if you are a werewolf. Otherwise, you can have a
strong suspicion
, but you are not certain.

So, I think you're full of shit.

Huh.. this is weird. I mean, its not totally out of the norm for a Scum person to defend someone, but the tone of this post is pretty telling. Gunna have to reevaluate Pistachi0n.

pistachi0n · Post Post #973 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:08 pm

In post 972, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 971, pistachi0n wrote:
In post 964, Ranger wrote:
pistachi0n wrote:Ranger--since you are not claiming an investigation, why are you sure that LQ is the alpha werewolf specifically?
I'll tell you after he's lynched if it's that important for you to know.

Until then, I don't see how revealing why I know would do any good.
The only way you could know
for sure
who the alpha werewolf is is if you are a werewolf. Otherwise, you can have a
strong suspicion
, but you are not certain.

So, I think you're full of shit.
Huh.. this is weird. I mean, its not totally out of the norm for a Scum person to defend someone, but the tone of this post is pretty telling. Gunna have to reevaluate Pistachi0n.

Who's defending who?

Smithereens · Post Post #974 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:10 pm

In post 933, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 892, Smithereens wrote:
In post 887, Bellaphant wrote:House/pista aren't the same team, though.
I went through your ISO, there isn't any prior explanation of why you believe this. When+how did you arrive at this conclusion??
One of the first reasons I read House as town for his interaction with pista. It looked like scum-hunting. After House's flip, this could still be the case: it doesn't make pista town, it just means they aren't they same faction as House.

I don't understand what you're saying here. House was scum hunting pista, therefore pista is not aligned with House??

In post 933, Bellaphant wrote:
In post 905, Smithereens wrote:
In post 898, Bellaphant wrote:VOTE: almost 50
Could you reply to 892?

Also, I'd like to know why you're saying the Jae wagon was rubbish because of talk of it being an information lynch when the only person claiming it would be an info lynch was Jae himself. I know you're aware of this fact because you linked me three posts from him when I asked you for it.
....Sorry, wut? The conversation has gone:

me: one of the reasons jae's lynch was bad was because of the way they spoke about their lynch being an information lynch and no one backed off
you: where did they say that?
me: here, here and here
you: only jae said it was an information lynch...
me: *head desk*

What am I missing here?

If I were about to get lynched, and I were scum, if I simply hollered that this was an info lynch would you back off my wagon for the fact that I said that? Cuz you seem to be implying that a person who calls their own lynch an info lynch should be spared from the lynch entirely.