New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Mirhawk]

VOTE: Mirhawk

Is implosion currently voting me?

[implosion]

- 1130 - No lynch? REALLY??!?!!? I can understand early on. But a no-lynch 1100+ posts into a game is just asinine. +
- Shit like 1330 and 1338 - "Explain your read to me!" "Oh. I had you scum but now town." One case shouldn't swing players to those kind of extremes outside of way early Day 1 and special exceptions, neither of which we've had. We have enough content by that point at the very least that a read on a player like Zach should've been fairly well established and any movement on the needle is minimal.
- Multiple later D1 posts, he buddies hard to Vedith. Like he's glad to have an ally coming in. It's late enough that buddying might fly under the radar, especially with the other shit that popped up in Day 1. But it's fucking there.
After this, it gets hazy of him posting anything of merit, but I think I made my point. He's a pretty bad player in a best case scenario, but I'm pretty sure he's just a scumbag.

1130. Yet again. Yes. Asinine. Why is this scummy. What is the scum motivation. There is no particularly poignant scum motivation for that. There's no town motivation either, it's null.

And I have to take a break to go play pokemon go will be back in a bit~

[Mirhawk]

So you showed up to hard defend performer.... and that's it?

[Transcend]

and solve my hangman puzzle which was transparent about 2 hours ago

[Mirhawk]

Perhaps he solved your puzzle specifically to obtain your vote....

[Transcend]

PERHAPS.........................................................................................................................................................

[Transcend]

But yeah my vote's on town

[Transcend]

Fuck it. Congrats on solving a puzzle but no more doublevoter affix.

[implosion]

I showed up to review AGar's case and his case is making me look at a bunch of Performer's posts and I disagree with almost all of his reasons for scumreading Performer and am being reminded of reasons that I've thought Performer was town so yes I apparently did come here to hard defend performer. And I left because a pokestop at the end of the block was lured (time-sensitive).

Anyway. 1330/1338 I don't even see what AGar is referring to, and his last point is unspecific but may have merit but I'd need to know which posts he's referring to. On the whole the case is just really, really bad. I was expecting it to have some merit but it really doesn't.

Re: Mirhawk's recent posts. 3536 completely sidesteps the point I was making. My point was that Mirhawk's post indicated that:

I kinda agree with the sentiment that there was likely no scum in most of the latter people on Ved's wagon.

and yet he did not actually agree with that sentiment, instead calling (being generous to him now) 1/3 of the people in "the latter people on Ved's wagon" scum (note that 1/3 is pretty certainly

much higher

than the proportion of scum in the town as a whole!) Essentially the way he phrased it indicates a cognitive dissonance of wanting to appear to agree with that sentiment, but also wanting to express opinions in direct contradiction to it.

His wholesale, nonspecific acceptance of AGar's case in 3543 is also noteworthy. Especially this line:

I mean I can't really think of any good reason to not vote performer after reading that.

It just feels so waffly, in a scummy way, as though he's trying to leave himself room to go either way on the Performer wagon. Saying he can't see any reason not to vote and then IMMEDIATELY saying he doesn't really want to go for what he perceives as a lurker lynch (which is, in fact,

a reason not to vote

).

A lot of his recent posts don't really make me feel one way or the other. Again none of them strike me as town to any degree with the very slight exception of 3577 but that's only a very small gut extent.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh man I totally missed that replace request

vc 2.07

Titus (1):

Wake88

kraska77 (6):

AGar, Titus, Zackstralkita, shannon, Boem_u_dusi, Airick10

implosion (2):

beeboy, Varsoon

Mirhawk (3):

implosion, PeregrineV, Transcend

Dunnstral (1):

Mirhawk

PeregrineV (2):

pobodoq, Almost50

Not Voting:

kraska77, Dunnstral

With

17

votes,

9

to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-07-19 12:40:26)

Wake88

is V/LA until

7/14

.

kraska77

replaces Performer.

[Dunnstral]

Replacement inbound!

[Dunnstral]

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[implosion]

Dunn, what do you think of Mirhawk's recent posts?

[Dunnstral]

I don't like how he's voting me but has no reasoning.

[Dunnstral]

And doesn't seem to really have much to say to me

[Mirhawk]

Re: Mirhawk's recent posts. 3536 completely sidesteps the point I was making. My point was that Mirhawk's post indicated that:

I kinda agree with the sentiment that there was likely no scum in most of the latter people on Ved's wagon.

and yet he did not actually agree with that sentiment, instead calling (being generous to him now) 1/3 of the people in "the latter people on Ved's wagon" scum (note that 1/3 is pretty certainly

much higher

than the proportion of scum in the town as a whole!) Essentially the way he phrased it indicates a cognitive dissonance of wanting to appear to agree with that sentiment, but also wanting to express opinions in direct contradiction to it.

Mu impression was that the view you were espousing was that you thought that the flashwagon on Ved likely didn't come from scum. That I agree with. I don't think that it holds for the entire wagon though.

You seem to take offense over the fact that I don't agree with you completely and I'm not sure why.

Do you think that I don't actually have the opinion that I'm professing here, or do you think I wouldn't point it out?

[kraska77]

Hi ♡

Haven't read the entire thing yet. Just skimmed through the last few pages. First impressions: this agar guy's case on my slot is too weirdly gung ho and doesn't seem all that strong...don't really understand why lots of people were like "woah agar much case very convince" but I'll have to read the whole thread first before I can come up with anything appreciable
Also, I don't like guy with creepy avatar's(boem) posts from what I've seen in the last few pages.

I'll be back when I catch up

Cya ♡

[Mirhawk]

Yo kras, welcome.

[Mirhawk]

It just feels so waffly, in a scummy way, as though he's trying to leave himself room to go either way on the Performer wagon. Saying he can't see any reason not to vote and then IMMEDIATELY saying he doesn't really want to go for what he perceives as a lurker lynch (which is, in fact, a reason not to vote).

Not being sarcastic. This is 100% what was going on there. You caught me, I wasn't sure if I wanted to vote performer or not.

[Mirhawk]

I don't like how he's voting me but has no reasoning.

And doesn't seem to really have much to say to me

Tharr be reasons mate, you jus have to look for em.

Also I be talkin to yer last page I do. What yer other questions be?

[Mirhawk]

Actually I suppose I could just say it for the whole class.

I think your insistence that you were saved last night by the Doc to be horseshit. You have no reason to think you were covered by any sort of protective role, the role you've claimed wouldn't tell you anything on this either. Despite this you stubbornly insisted no less than three times that you were the scums nightkill victim.

Also the role you've claimed is ultra convenient as there is no way for us to confirm now that you've used your shot as you (conveniently) used it on the only person who there's no way of proving you targeted or not.

I think you tried to claim the doc protection to look more town, and your unprovable claim doesn't make you look any better to me.

[Dunnstral]

You have no reason to think you were covered by any sort of protective role

But I was. So, I was right?

[Mirhawk]

And how did you know that?

[Dunnstral]

What do you mean

[Mirhawk]

You thought you killed Lapsa, so you obviously didn't know.