New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Boem_u_dusi]

I think implosion is making a lot sense here.

[implosion]

(also, if there are any town-aligned killing roles other than Dunnstral, then my reasoning will change significantly and Mirhawk is somewhat likely scum again. But I'll cross that bridge if it comes up)

[Dunnstral]

if they were going for something like that they would just put a nurse without a doctor

Because there is a doctor.

There's also a backup nurse

"just make it a nurse" makes it an actual role, or having to remove the doctor

[Dunnstral]

(also, if there are any town-aligned killing roles other than Dunnstral, then my reasoning will change significantly and Mirhawk is somewhat likely scum again. But I'll cross that bridge if it comes up)

Not sure I follow

[implosion]

hence the "or a deputy without a cop"

[implosion]

(although we conceivably could have a cop too but it seems unlikely with so damn many protective roles)

[implosion]

(also, if there are any town-aligned killing roles other than Dunnstral, then my reasoning will change significantly and Mirhawk is somewhat likely scum again. But I'll cross that bridge if it comes up)

Not sure I follow

The likelihood that the mod put in a mafia even-night doc if the only town killing role is a 1-shot vig seems very low.
If there's also like, another 1-shot vig, or an even-night vig, or something like that, then it becomes more likely.

[Titus]

because what moderator in their right mind would conceive of the idea of a backup nurse without a nurse

if they were going for something like that they would just put a nurse without a doctor or a deputy without a cop. Those are sort of standby choices (along with miller) for moderators looking to add a named townie to a setup. They wouldn't think of it.

Named townie is a thing.

VOTE: PV

[Titus]

(also, if there are any town-aligned killing roles other than Dunnstral, then my reasoning will change significantly and Mirhawk is somewhat likely scum again. But I'll cross that bridge if it comes up)

Not sure I follow

The likelihood that the mod put in a mafia even-night doc if the only town killing role is a 1-shot vig seems very low.
If there's also like, another 1-shot vig, or an even-night vig, or something like that, then it becomes more likely.

An even night doc is a fake if there's no even odd night anything else most likely. Is it certain? No.

[Dunnstral]

(also, if there are any town-aligned killing roles other than Dunnstral, then my reasoning will change significantly and Mirhawk is somewhat likely scum again. But I'll cross that bridge if it comes up)

Not sure I follow

The likelihood that the mod put in a mafia even-night doc if the only town killing role is a 1-shot vig seems very low.
If there's also like, another 1-shot vig, or an even-night vig, or something like that, then it becomes more likely.

An even night doc is a fake if there's no even odd night anything else most likely. Is it certain? No.

Might just be even-night doc because we also have a jailkeeper, though

[Boem_u_dusi]

what is this game

[Almost50]

because what moderator in their right mind would conceive of the idea of a backup nurse without a nurse

if they were going for something like that they would just put a nurse without a doctor or a deputy without a cop. Those are sort of standby choices (along with miller) for moderators looking to add a named townie to a setup. They wouldn't think of it.

Well, we don't KNOW there isn't a deputy (or a Cop with no deputy for that matter). The former become "already done" in response to your suggestion, while the latter becomes "no can do".

Now as for the doctor -and precisely for our case here in this game- I guess the setup needed one. So, I'm MERELY SPECULATING- that either a Cop OR a Deputy is in play and thus the mod got cornered between including a Backup Nurse w/o there being a Nurse or adding a Backup Deputy.

Obviously I'm NOT an expert in setup balancing (I only modded one game that had a fixed standard open setup and still somehow managed to slip up to confirm TWO players roles, so I'll just shut up now!)

[Transcend]

4 protective roles does not sound legitimate. Varsoon's claim is solid as fuck and I don't think Guy would give mafia that stacked of a role. Mirhawk was obvtowning today anyways. Therefore A50's claim loses its legitimacy, and while Dunn may have had his action blocked, there can be a mafia roleblocker that prevented his action. A50 isn't a lynch I'd pursue today, but it's purely food for thought.

[Titus]

It's most likely 2 with Varsoon as a named townie.

[Titus]

Good night.

[implosion]

because what moderator in their right mind would conceive of the idea of a backup nurse without a nurse

if they were going for something like that they would just put a nurse without a doctor or a deputy without a cop. Those are sort of standby choices (along with miller) for moderators looking to add a named townie to a setup. They wouldn't think of it.

Named townie is a thing.

VOTE: PV

It isn't explicitly normal.

[implosion]

(which doesn't mean that it couldn't be used, but etc)

[Dunnstral]

because what moderator in their right mind would conceive of the idea of a backup nurse without a nurse

if they were going for something like that they would just put a nurse without a doctor or a deputy without a cop. Those are sort of standby choices (along with miller) for moderators looking to add a named townie to a setup. They wouldn't think of it.

Named townie is a thing.

VOTE: PV

It isn't explicitly normal.

The backup nurse?

Sure it is, all explicitly normal parts

[Dunnstral]

Or are you saying "named townie isn't explicitely normal"

Because that's just untrue

[Dunnstral]

and while Dunn may have had his action blocked, there can be a mafia roleblocker that prevented his action.

I apparently targetted same person as mafia did anyways so roleblocker wouldn't matter

mirhawk claimed even night doc which excludes day 1 so if a50 were scum there'd be no protective roles

[Transcend]

on em if mafia kill the same person as vig then vig dies

i don't know if it's the same way for mafiascum. does your role pm say anything about that?

[Boem_u_dusi]

Everyone has some fancy role, I'm feeling ripped off in this game.

[Transcend]

good job claiming VT for no reason

[Boem_u_dusi]

thanks

[shannon]

I smell a rat.

Lynch either Dunnstral or Titus.

Finally! I have been on these two all game and I'm so, so over the constant deflection and allowing myself to be deflected.

I HAVEN'T READ ANYTHING.
WHAT'S UP MY N-WORDS?
DON'T WORRY, I'M TOWN
I'VE GOT YOUR BACK.

Consider the crumbs now that you know I'm a back-up Nurse.

If that's a crumb, it's a very easy one to miss...

It definitely drew my attention the first day but I didn't know what to make of it, I've never heard of nurse before.

I don't see how we can essentially have 2 protective roles and 2 backup roles

If anything, there is no nurse and the backup nurse is just for the mafia neapolitan which seems likely actually

maybe mafia does have a traitor?

If mafia has a traitor can I get a prize please?

podog

I don't know why podoboq's name is so hard for people, it's symmetrical

There's no g in my name.

Also, shannon, I'm totally sigging this when this game ends.

Happy to have contributed.

Because Titus is scum.
Also because fake-masons gambit with someone they don't even have a PT with.

Mod says if the Nurse becomes a Doctor and they die, I get to become a Doctor.
So I'm not totally useless as far as mechanics go.

First bit of this sums it up, it seemed so implausible as a scum move but with all these other random claims it doesn't seem that way any more.