Mini Normal 1809: Game Over

[Hoopla]

This is your last chance to claim a shot attempt on N1.

If you refuse to say, I'm going to assume you are either scum or still have your shot. If there is one kill tonight, you're 100% getting lynched tomorrow, so if you're town you better vig scum in case they try a no-kill gambit.

[Masquerade]

If there is no scum rb like you say there is.

[Hoopla]

There is an outside chance of a scumRB/Masq-Vig scenario, but that is less likely than you being scum who can't back up his claim. So, you see, you must be lynched tomorrow if you can't produce the goods tonight.

I simply cannot think of any other extenuating circumstances that would warrant you to not fully claim right now.

[Killthestory]

Sorry for being this inactive, the heat here is incapacitating.
I really

really

don't want to say whether I shot N1 or didn't. If I am still alive tomorrow, I'll explain why. I have good reason and you can either trust me or go ahead and lynch me.

I'm still not done reading, but this feels town.

Just sayin'

[Elyse]

Why are you townreading him?

Mostly gut. I liked his push on Masq. Nothing about him has really bothered me at all.

[Egg]

Why would you doubt molla's confidence about the lack of vig, when your stance on Masq is this:

Nah, I'm wondering how 3 flips, 2 of which are VTs, tell Molla that Masq's claimed role can't exist.

When you say that^ the view you're implicitly espousing is you don't believe the vig claim

I'm definitely skeptical, but you make sense when you say that I can be proven wrong with a two kill night or a dead scum. I'm open to lynching cmit instead. May even do it in this post. Lemme finish reading first.

This sort of fencesitty wishy-washy under the radar posting is exactly what I was talking about with regards to Egg

I've played way too much mafia to still think I'm always right, especially when my reads in my last two completed games were shit (I was right on exactly one scum between the two games. They were larges). I'm more than willing to give a confirmable claim a chance. You yourself voted Masq and switched after the claim, so I think you understand the mentality.

I really really don't want to say whether I shot N1 or didn't. If I am still alive tomorrow, I'll explain why. I have good reason and you can either trust me or go ahead and lynch me.

Why is tomorrow better than today?

[BlankFace]

The claim is easily confirmable, why is this even an argument?

Votes on Cmit please.

[Egg]

Yeah

Vote Cmit

[cmitc1]

im a Weak Neighborizer

[Egg]

What's that?

[cmitc1]

every night i may invite someone to my chat, if there town, they join the chat and we can talk in it during the day, and night. If there scum i die.


I tried to invite elyse, but i guess i was roleblocked.

[Egg]

Unvote

So Masq's action failed and Cmit's action failed. Hmm... Possible, but not likely but both roles are confirmable. Ugh.

Cmit, you probably need to tell us who you're targeting because if you die, we lose that info. Problem is, if you say you're targeting scum, you get blocked but meh, better than you dying if your claim is true.

I want to hear some thoughts because I'm at a loss for a compromise now. Hell, I don't mind being the lynch myself. I wouldn't mind having one less game to play. I want Grendel's input on Cmit's claim though.

[Killthestory]

Cmitc isn't familiar with

[Killthestory]

Cmitc isn't familiar with

MS roles, so I really doubt him being able to form that fakeclaim without the help of another mafia member if he is mafia.

[Egg]

It's easily availible on the wiki. I checked myself after asking what it was. His answer matched the wiki.

[Egg]

Maybe cmit should neighborize Masq?

[Killthestory]

All roles are easily available on the wiki. If I were to expect Cmitc to claim a PR role, I'd expect something like BP, JK, or the likely doctor.

[Elyse]

There's no way both cmit and Masq were blocked so if Masq used his shot, he's lying or there's BP or something. I believe cmit's claim.

[Egg]

Maybe Masq and Cmit should both target each other?

Let me work this out.

If Masq is scum, Cmit either dies, near-confirming Masq as scum or is blocked.
If Cmit is scum, Masq either kills him or is blocked.

Honestly, that probably becomes a stalemate until we get the scum RB if there is one.

But if Cmit is scum who is lying about being blocked and Masq's kill failed for another reason, Masq killing Cmit is still possible.

Is it worth trying?

[Elyse]

I don't think it'll do much if there's a scum RB.

Although my brain is fried rn and I need to put more thought into it. We only have a little over 2 days until deadline.

[Killthestory]

if Cmitc is claiming anything, it's BP, Doc, or JK. Nothing like a neighborizer, especially not a weak neighborizer.

[Egg]

Why would he claim doc or JK with a dead JK already flipping?

[Egg]

Better question. Who do we lynch?

[cmitc1]

Better question. Who do we lynch?

That is kinda why i decided to reveal my role a little early. I am not really sure who we should go with.

[Killthestory]

Why would he claim doc or JK with a dead JK already flipping?

lol oops I haven't looked at the graveyard.

I'm just giving examples of basic roles. Neighborizer with a modification is very specific and complex for a new MS player.