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Post Post #3675 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:41 pm

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My theory is the scum (Suzune) is buddying Varsoon 'cause a Survivor (assuming he isn't lying) offers much much more utility to scum than town.

I'm not shooting you Luna.
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Post Post #3676 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:42 pm

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In post 3675, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not shooting you Luna.
But you have to, otherwise Mr Mason zakk wont shut up. And A50 is playing more for himself than for town.
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Post Post #3677 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:43 pm

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nope. Gonna let the scum push you.
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Post Post #3678 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:43 pm

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Well anyway short end of the story.
My townreads that are dissapearing:
Antihero
Nosferatu
Dwlee

While getting a scumread on Antihero at the same time.
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Post Post #3679 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:43 pm

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He will be fine, there is no reason to kill you luna.

Nero will single handedly sink the town though if it targets both mason...
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Post Post #3680 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:44 pm

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I guess TD townread is also dissapearing.
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Post Post #3681 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:45 pm

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Currently you are one of my town reads, however it is a tad bias because we were thinking in the same direction and I enjoy having other people think with me and bounce ideas off of.
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Post Post #3682 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:45 pm

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In post 3679, Suzune wrote:Nero will single handedly sink the town though if it targets both mason...
This is what im thinking right now.
But not necessarily by wanting to lynch the Mason claims.
But refusing to see the possibility of anti scum because of his role, which is what he's been coasting by and not doing anything neither here nor in the hood.
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Post Post #3683 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:46 pm

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In post 3681, Suzune wrote:Currently you are one of my town reads, however it is a tad bias because we were thinking in the same direction and I enjoy having other people think with me and bounce ideas off of.
I do as well.
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Post Post #3684 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:46 pm

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yeah...see the masons aren't really doing anything worthwhile and if one player flips masons the other is a mason so beyond ATE I'm not sure why you are claiming I'd target you both.
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Post Post #3685 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:47 pm

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They are solving the game, it's obvious at this point we're townreading scum and you're not seeing it.
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Post Post #3686 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:48 pm

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In post 3682, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 3679, Suzune wrote:Nero will single handedly sink the town though if it targets both mason...
This is what im thinking right now.
But not necessarily by wanting to lynch the Mason claims.
But refusing to see the possibility of anti scum because of his role, which is what he's been coasting by and not doing anything neither here nor in the hood.
It is tough to lynch for role alone. However, I can understand this. As I mentioned in my long post, having two neighborhoods means the role is more likely to shoot the town in the foot then to hard the mafia. Therefore, unless used wisely, it because a negative utility and can be used to see scum everywhere. Which makes it a curious ability
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Post Post #3687 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:49 pm

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I don't see Suzune doing anything to solve the ame, all I've seen is the argument that we shouldn't lynch confirmed scum and that Ranger could still be scum.
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Post Post #3688 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:51 pm

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How to easily color all the vote counts quickly and properly:
Multiquote all the vote counts.
Hit preview
Ctrl+A and Ctrl+X the vote counts
Ctrl+V into word or google docs.
Find:
(this is just the color used for the vote counts) Replace: *blank* Replace all
Next, Find: *name of player who flipped town*, Replace
*playername*
, repeat for every flipped town player
Next, Find *name of player who flipped scum*, Replace
*player name*

Ctrl+A Ctrl+C
Go to mafia scum tab
ctrl+V
Preview
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Post Post #3689 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:51 pm

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In post 3686, Suzune wrote:
In post 3682, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 3679, Suzune wrote:Nero will single handedly sink the town though if it targets both mason...
This is what im thinking right now.
But not necessarily by wanting to lynch the Mason claims.
But refusing to see the possibility of anti scum because of his role, which is what he's been coasting by and not doing anything neither here nor in the hood.
It is tough to lynch for role alone. However, I can understand this. As I mentioned in my long post, having two neighborhoods means the role is more likely to shoot the town in the foot then to hard the mafia. Therefore, unless used wisely, it because a negative utility and can be used to see scum everywhere. Which makes it a curious ability
Except im scumreading anti for his play not for the role.
Im just saying why the role doesnt make him town.

But ok fine, I get it's hard to lynch the closest thing we have to an alignment cop, but anti's scum meta is pretty strong, i'm not sure i'll believe his towniness anytime soon.
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Post Post #3690 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:53 pm

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Fair, I misunderstood you then. I read it as you wanted to lynch for the role with the gameplay to back it up not the other way around. At this point of the game we could get them to be an alignment cop but it would be wasted because I personally have low trust in that slot. I mentioned this in my long opening post.
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Post Post #3691 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:53 pm

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In post 3682, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 3679, Suzune wrote:Nero will single handedly sink the town though if it targets both mason...
This is what im thinking right now.
But not necessarily by wanting to lynch the Mason claims.
But refusing to see the possibility of anti scum because of his role, which is what he's been coasting by and not doing anything neither here nor in the hood.
LUNA!

Your claim was that Anti was scum 'cause Titus wanted him in the hood right? I offered an explanation as to why she'd say that without Anti being scum and then you were like "oh but the scum spy is dead" Yes, yes he is BUT at the time she said that PV was still upright spying on the hoods conversations.
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Post Post #3692 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:54 pm

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@Dwlee what are you going to do with it. I mean. How is it going to help you. There are seventy plus vote counts. There is no reason for me to grab them all for you.
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Post Post #3693 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:54 pm

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In post 3688, Dwlee99 wrote:How to easily color all the vote counts quickly and properly:
Multiquote all the vote counts. :left:
Hit preview
Ctrl+A and Ctrl+X the vote counts
Ctrl+V into word or google docs.
Find:
(this is just the color used for the vote counts) Replace: *blank* Replace all
Next, Find: *name of player who flipped town*, Replace
*playername*
, repeat for every flipped town player
Next, Find *name of player who flipped scum*, Replace
*player name*

Ctrl+A Ctrl+C
Go to mafia scum tab
ctrl+V
Preview
quote and read this post and color the VCs this way
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Post Post #3694 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:56 pm

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In post 3692, Suzune wrote:@Dwlee what are you going to do with it. I mean. How is it going to help you. There are seventy plus vote counts. There is no reason for me to grab them all for you.
you can do them all at once, so why does it matter. But Im gonna do VCA obviously
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Post Post #3695 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:57 pm

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You would be better off making an excel table and charting who votes for who. But some votes are situational which means they need a different weight.

I wonder how to phrase politely that unless someone else wants it done, that I see no value in this busy work.
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Post Post #3696 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:57 pm

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In post 3691, Nero Cain wrote:Your claim was that Anti was scum 'cause Titus wanted him in the hood right? I offered an explanation as to why she'd say that without Anti being scum and then you were like "oh but the scum spy is dead" Yes, yes he is BUT at the time she said that PV was still upright spying on the hoods conversations.
I am aware of that, and that's indeed something I missed.

Still cant shake off the feeling that Anti's playing to his scum meta, and him being in the hood gives him liberty to fake results, idk, I want you to look at anti's PLAY not his ROLE and tell me why he's town.
And take in mind that he's made no contribution in the hood.
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Post Post #3697 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:00 pm

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@Luna:

OK, card #2: So you think Anti is scum, while you also wanted me in that same hood telling them whom I'd be hiding behind??? Does that make ANY sense to even YOU?

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Post Post #3698 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:00 pm

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In post 3695, Suzune wrote:You would be better off making an excel table and charting who votes for who. But some votes are situational which means they need a different weight.

I wonder how to phrase politely that unless someone else wants it done, that I see no value in this busy work.
What
I just need them colored so I can look at them
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #3699 (ISO) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:01 pm

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In post 3697, Almost50 wrote:OK, card #2: So you think Anti is scum, while you also wanted me in that same hood telling them whom I'd be hiding behind??? Does that make ANY sense to even YOU?
I didn't.
My reasoning behind that was that if you got into the hood, you hit scum because you're otherwise untargetable.
If you cant die hitting scum, but you can die if scum hits who you're hiding behind, would you rather 1 person die or 2.
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