Mini 1803: Hunger Games Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Infinity 324]

Bins is that an inno on xtoxm? Why did you investigate the guy who counter claimed scum?

PEdit: It'll be fine, mollie and dunn are town for sure

Should xtoxm claim whether he has a shot or nah

[Bins]

What, no. I'm just very certain Xtomx is town.

[Infinity 324]

Ok I won't ask

Would like your reasons/reads at some point and if you gave all the steps that led you there, that may make me feel even better about you being town

[pirate mollie]

when is the dl?

[pirate mollie]

Vote Count 3.02

Skybird –
pirate mollie - [1] Infinity 324²,
Vedith - [2] Yume¹, Froot Loop¹
Froot Loop - [3] Infinity 324¹, Vedith¹, Xtoxm¹
Xtoxm – [2] Xtoxm², Vedith² pirate mollie¹[
Infinity 324 -
Yume -
Bins - [1] Dunnstral²
Dunnstral - [1] Dunnstral¹, Froot Loop²

Not Voting - Skybird¹², Pirate Mollie², , Yume², Bins¹²

Mod Notes – May the odds be ever in your favor!

Feast votes are due in (expired on 2016-07-24 17:21:57).

okay we have another cple of days

don't lynch any1 until I at least have my say plz. I get off of work around 6 pm my time tomorrow, it is my long day so I need to get to bed. soonish

[Froot Loop]

What does that mean?

There's a difference between D1 and D2/3, that's what I was trying to say. Also you said you hadn't read that part of the game.

I am referring to your use of it as a defense in post 1947

it looks like a "why me? [every1 thought that I was town d1]" looks like a scummy defense and we shld fry you as in lynch you hence the term, "why me fry me".

I am not saying I read the game so how are you jumping to that conclusion I am going by what YOU said.

(my bold)

What's the bold bit referring to?

I was saying that I did town things on D1. You said that that's not very persuasive in your thinking and I get that. But if you haven't read the beginning of the game, I'd say you should before you lynch me. I'm town and I was townread during D1.

I'm wondering about Yume as well - did someone say she's town because of meta?

Skybird - I've had a look through her ISO and it's pretty underwhelming. But, does this contradict something someone said about Vedith pushing to get reactions? Maybe it's made up.

Spoiler: Vedith

Vedith - so far reading you as town.

Why?

That is harder to say. I've been in a few games with you and this feels like your town game. On day 1 some players were angry with you for a couple of your comments and I think that shaped the way they looked at you. But I don't see scum Vedith causing those type of waves, especially with a player like FA who was going to push you all through the game until she got you lynched.

About dunn: what's your point? You think dunn drew attention from clumsy lynch more than you did? Bartering means he's kind of trapped into voting clumsy.

I don't think Dunn would've done that as scum. It was super flippant. He was like "Ok, I'll vote Clumsy but we look at Xtoxm tomorrow." I don't think he'd have been so casual if Clumsy were his partner.

About vedith: I think shaz was genuinely angry at vedith but I don't think he would bus for that. I think scum bussing would try to get town cred by coming up with actual good reasoning.

Yeah, I think it's possible that Shaz's anger kind of took him outside the game. Like, he didn't care that Vedith was his partner, he disagreed with the play.

About your case: I think most of the points you make are NAI. Weak reasoning when someone uses strong reasoning in other cases isn't a scumtell, it means he is conf biased in some places or you just disagree.

I've pointed out places where Vedith has straight up lied about my play. I think this is AI. I've also pointed out where he's ignored my posts with pretty pertinent and strong accusations. I think this is AI. I've said that I think he buddied Dunn. He said he would quote why he thinks Dunn is town but he hasn't. He has admitted he's done this and said it's because he thinks I'm scum. This is bad play. As town players, we should all be pushing him to answer all questions of him. I think he's ignoring it because he doesn't have to answer because of the pressure on me.

[Froot Loop]

Me, dunn, xtoxm, bins, mollie, and vedith are all town. That should be clear just from our interactions today

. Vedith is the weakest town read I guess

Scum is froot, {skybird, yume}

(my bold)

Why?

[Dunnstral]

Bins said she used a protective today and investigated me night 1

She's talking about the counter claims tuff

[Froot Loop]

I agree with the PoE tho Infinity. That's exactly where I am. Except I think I want Yume dead.

I'd compromise on Yume if the Vedith vote isn't going to take off. Which is absurd and crazy to me. Like, if people can tell me why they think Vedith is town, please.

[pirate mollie]

jftr

I will likely be voting froot.

the cog dis is like 60 shades of super bad. I will explain at another time holy if that slot is town then I will eat my hat.

infinity this is kag posting and i cldn't any1 to even look at him cos get be beglamoured over style and not look at the substance of what they are saying. I mean she is doing it AGAIN of contradicting the bejeesus out of herself with her saying that vedith is lying and ignore skybird's lying about my meta like how

okay I will try to post in the morning

eta: we are not lynching yume and wtf is "compromise" shit only bins who really shld not be wanting to lynch yume rn based on what fa has said. bins/froot? I did have bins as a townread but there is a shit ton of stuff that she is missing and it doesn't make sense. I will explain more tomorrow but I will give 1 final chance.

froot defo first tho

[pirate mollie]

Bins said she used a protective today and investigated me night 1

She's talking about the counter claims tuff

what was he investigative result then? cos this is the first that I have heard of it.

[Dunnstral]

No clue what it is, all I know is that she investigated me but I'm not cleared

[pirate mollie]

No clue what it is, all I know is that she investigated me but I'm not cleared

wut

you mean she said that she investigated you but didn't give a result?

holy cow

why didn't you say this? and why did you unvote her?

okay when I say I need a tl;dr I mean I need a THOROUGH tl;dr tyvm

I have really got to go to bed y'all but ffs

[Froot Loop]

Why is it ok for you to talk about tomorrow? I'm town. This will be revealed if I'm lynched. If there's something you think is relevant, you can talk about it now.

I didn't ignore your mentioning of Yume's meta. I asked about it. I could remember who said it.

I'm wondering about Yume as well - did someone say she's town because of meta?

I think Vedith is scum. It's an option for me that he's partners with one of the active players, or less active. I think Vedith me have been quieter today (like, actual day) because his partner's being able to direct the lynch towards me. It's also possible that both scum are being quiet while town players are focusing on me.

[Froot Loop]

*I couldn't remember who said it.

[Froot Loop]

I'd also like you to clarify, specifically, what cog-dis you're talking about.

[Dunnstral]

Yes but why would I do it

After Xtomx has already done it

Also I HAVE BEEN SOFTIGN PR FOREVER

ALSO IM NOT JUST A 1-SHOT DOC IM SOMETHING ELSE TOO SO CAN WE SHUT UP AND LYNCH VEDITH

My protective is 1-shot.
I don't see how you guys could possibly NOT believe me.

Because scum can take measures to avoid this specific type of investigation?

I targetted you N1 with one of my investigative shots.

I got nothing of interest.

Your hammer? Also I think you're again assuming this is an investigate-the-scummiest person investigation role. It's not.

I was mildly scumreading you at the end of D1 though lmfao you can't blame me for that.

You're not clear. People will know what I mean if I ever die and flip.

Can you stop asking questions about my role if I've stated there's a good reason to hide the extent of it? Thanks.

P-edit - because I think Clumsy could be telling the truth and I might be able to confirm it if I'm not role blocked. I liked his claim.

To be fair, from my POV, Xtomx did make me like Clumsy less.

[Froot Loop]

Here's where I am with my notes.

Town:
Xtoxm - against read. CC'd Clumsy and pushed Clumsy with the double vote.

Everyone else:
Bellaphant/Infinity - Bella suggested the three pool of players. Inifinity's been open in the conversation today.
Dunnstral - jumped around a lot, drew attention, high risk scum play.
Bins - claimed during issue with Clumsy. Think this is unlikely play as a scum partner.
Frozen Angel/Pirate Mollie - Strong town read on FA. Not much on Mollie, I think her play could be town or scum. Don't think either of them have done anything definitively AI.
Radja/Skybird - Radja was quiet, see recent comments about Skybird.
Yume - has been quiet, Mollie's relying on meta. Didn't like her conversation with Vedith during D2.
vedith - scum, see alll the comments.

So, I think the most likely to be scum are from Vedith, Yume or Skybird.

[Froot Loop]

infinity this is kag posting and

i cldn't any1 to even look at him cos get be beglamoured over style and not look at the substance of what they are saying.

I mean she is doing it AGAIN of contradicting the bejeesus out of herself with her saying that vedith is lying and ignore skybird's lying about my meta like how

(my bold)

Are you trying to say that you haven't succeeded in getting people to look at me today? Like, really? Yeah, I feel really sorry for you that no one's listening to you and I'm coasting through this day with no pressure.

[Froot Loop]

By "join the town bloc" I meant discuss reads with me mollie and dunn

So, Dunn's in the bloc even though he said you're scummy?

[pirate mollie]

Why is it ok for you to talk about tomorrow? I'm town. This will be revealed if I'm lynched. If there's something you think is relevant, you can talk about it now.

I didn't ignore your mentioning of Yume's meta. I asked about it. I could remember who said it.

I'm wondering about Yume as well - did someone say she's town because of meta?

I think Vedith is scum. It's an option for me that he's partners with one of the active players, or less active. I think Vedith me have been quieter today (like, actual day) because his partner's being able to direct the lynch towards me. It's also possible that both scum are being quiet while town players are focusing on me.

is this to me?

[pirate mollie]

I'd also like you to clarify, specifically, what cog-dis you're talking about.

I have. in detail.

iso is your friend

[pirate mollie]

infinity this is kag posting and

i cldn't any1 to even look at him cos get be beglamoured over style and not look at the substance of what they are saying.

I mean she is doing it AGAIN of contradicting the bejeesus out of herself with her saying that vedith is lying and ignore skybird's lying about my meta like how

(my bold)

Are you trying to say that you haven't succeeded in getting people to look at me today? Like, really? Yeah, I feel really sorry for you that no one's listening to you and I'm coasting through this day with no pressure.

no, I am saying that at the start of gunslinger every1 thought that kag was town early in the game cos of...for whatever reason, I didn't think so. hth

[Skybird]

-snip-

Skybird, of the most active players, who is your top scumread and why?

This question is worded weird or something. Are you saying you think one of the most active players is scum?

Mollie is definitely town. I would only vote her for the feast if she wanted the gift.

Infinity, I was leaning scum on your slot due to Bella's play. Your play has been much better and Mollie really feels you are town. I'm willing to sheep Mollie here and call you town.

Dunn is bothering me with his near constant hinting that he wants the gift.

Froot is definitely dropping down my town read list. Of the active players, she is someone I would vote for the feast as scum. Part of my change on her is her lack of engagement with me. I understand she is trying to defend herself but she has me listed as scummy and hasn't even talked with me.

Bins - I think Bins is scum. I tried to engage her and she blew me off with "I'm not here for her to talk to". She calls me scum after she had my predecessor as not scum. For all she has hinted and out-right said she was a PR I'm rather puzzled that scum would go for IS instead of her.

I'm going to go ahead and vote now just so people can see where I'm at.

Vote 1
VOTE: Froot

Vote 2
I'd like to vote Bins but since the "victor" gets the gift I don't want a scum read to have the gift.

[Infinity 324]

Yeah totally agree about people looking at style over substance

Froot, do you want people to keep talking about you? Y/N

How about this. We lynch you today and if you flip town, we will take a good hard look at vedith tomorrow. Is that ok with you?

PEdit: I just think it's kind of a cop out to say the least active players are scum

And you should vote for your top town read who hasn't claimed a PR

And ok if froot flips scum that's a huge risk to bus both your partners. Plus that's another towny post but I disagree on bins

Ok gonna go ahead and say skybird and froot aren't partners