New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Zachstralkita]

Zach is normally completely (like 90%) wrong on who is scum so it's weird that they've been falling left and right - heavy bussing suspected

Despite the fact Dunn implies I'm mafia here, even he says my reads are oddly accurate this game, so much that he thinks I could be scum who hard pushed for both of his partner's lynches seemingly for no reason.

But like how come you assumed AGar was solid town after

1. He claimed VT.

2. I claimed there was motion on him as a reaction test.

I've been saying AGar town since way before there was any talk of claims. He was my townread Day 1 LMAOOOO

Zach, why are you opposed to AGar lynch so much?

From AGar's play alone I would say he is town without a doubt, same thing I said with Wake

got a case dude? i think in terms of rollercoaster reads, he would be mine.

i've scumread him one day then townread him the next and bla bla bla.

It makes sense

Zach, why are you opposed to AGar lynch so much?

If you think there's scum in me/AGar you shouldn't ever be asking me this question

Why can't you be town who has a wrong townread?

You said we should shoot/lynch in Zach/AGar.


That means you believe one of us is scum.


If both of us are not scum then your statement is false in the first place and you shouldn't be questioning this.

Of all the people who claimed VT Boem is the only one who could reasonably be scum.

I have no idea. Let's lynch/shoot in AGar/Zach and call it a day, I guess.

LOL

You, AGar, shannon, kraska also claimed VT.

Yeah all those claims are solid, that's why you're scum.

[Zachstralkita]

I hard tunneled Performer but I realized that slot probably could have been the one I had a wrong read on, and when I stopped using tunnel vision kraska's play seemed to indicate that much more.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Well, I don't mind going from this game because I think town always wins this but my lynch isn't going to help.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Right now, I think AGar is scum and you've just been wrong about him the whole time. Or you were jailkept the night before and that's why NK didn't occur.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Hmm, I'm thinking. Almost50 said he targeted Zach to protect him, but why would mafia target Zach at this point with jailkeeper, doc, nurse, vig alive? Makes no sense.

[shannon]

I am so not sure but I think either Dunn (as SK maybe), AGar, or Zach, with Boem and Kraska equal 4th.

PEdit: Maybe they thought Zach was another PR?

[Boem_u_dusi]

I think it's possible that Almost50 lied about being a jailkeeper and he's maybe a mafia roleblocker. But he doesn't need to be resolved today, he can't continue lying forever if that's the case.

[Boem_u_dusi]

And implosion probably saved him last night so ... Yeah, unlikely.

[shannon]

If you think that, are you going to vote A50?

[kraska77]

No a50 is town
Explain how scuma50 would conceive of the idea of Jk claim instead of airick? Also explain the profit for scuma50 out of making that claim?

[kraska77]

A50 claimed so that town works with correct data and realise that mafia also targeted lapsa

[Boem_u_dusi]

I'm just tinfoiling because I haven't got anything better to do at this point.

[Zachstralkita]

Nosferatu and Airick weren't really lynches on the table on the days they got lynched. If I were scum why would I excessively bus them and kill off my own teammates to gain nothing and drastically increase the chances of the scum team losing by working directly against a scum objective? That's practically playing against a scum wincon.

I've been obvtown. Dunn just couldn't believe I could play that well as town.

I believe beeboy voted Airick, and I voted him after that? Those were the only 2 votes on Airick at that point.

Well, I don't mind going from this game because I think town always wins this but my lynch isn't going to help.

Okay then, selfvote and let's do this. I'm going to call your bluff.

Right now, I think AGar is scum and you've just been wrong about him the whole time. Or you were jailkept the night before and that's why NK didn't occur.

This is the second time.


If you think AGar is scum and I've been wrong about him

the whole time

, how is the possibilty that I'm also scum that got jailkept EQUALLY as valid?

If you sincerely believe one you cannot even consider the other. You just state them as both possibilities because you yourself know they're not true.

You also said

Of all the people who claimed VT Boem is the only one who could reasonably be scum.

I have no idea. Let's lynch/shoot in AGar/Zach and call it a day, I guess.

LOL

You, AGar, shannon, kraska also claimed VT.

As if to say what?

If you're still saying there's one scum in me/AGar, you're just being redundant here for no reason other than to make noise.

Or you speculate that one of shannon / kraska could be scum, which does not follow when you say you think I've been wrong about AGar

the whole time

.


I think airick may have been beeboy's red check?

If you look at #5047 he votes A50 as if to pressure him for his jailkeep targets. You could think that HE was the red check, but then in #5063 he votes Airick because Airick is in his POE which absolutely does not make sense if he actually thought that A50 could be scum. It was clearly obvious he believed Airick was guilty. In #5065 I say I'd be fine with voting Airick on a serious note because I believed he was scum.

Almost50 says he jailkept Dunn N1, Kraska N2, Airick N3, and me N4. So beeboy shouldn't have been roleblocked unless Airick did it, which doesn't make sense for Airick to roleblock beeboy as opposed to a claimed PR because beeboy never scumread him prior and gave no indication as such.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Nosferatu and Airick weren't really lynches on the table on the days they got lynched.

If I were scum why would I excessively bus them and kill off my own teammates to gain nothing and drastically increase the chances of the scum team losing by working directly against a scum objective? That's practically playing against a scum wincon.

I've been obvtown. Dunn just couldn't believe I could play that well as town.

I believe beeboy voted Airick, and I voted him after that? Those were the only 2 votes on Airick at that point.

Well, I don't mind going from this game because I think town always wins this but my lynch isn't going to help.

Okay then, selfvote and let's do this. I'm going to call your bluff.

Right now, I think AGar is scum and you've just been wrong about him the whole time. Or you were jailkept the night before and that's why NK didn't occur.

This is the second time.

If you think AGar is scum and I've been wrong about him

the whole time

, how is the possibilty that I'm also scum that got jailkept EQUALLY as valid?

If you sincerely believe one you cannot even consider the other. You just state them as both possibilities because you yourself know they're not true.

You also said

Of all the people who claimed VT Boem is the only one who could reasonably be scum.

I have no idea. Let's lynch/shoot in AGar/Zach and call it a day, I guess.

LOL

You, AGar, shannon, kraska also claimed VT.

As if to say what?

If you're still saying there's one scum in me/AGar, you're just being redundant here for no reason other than to make noise.

Or you speculate that one of shannon / kraska could be scum, which does not follow when you say you think I've been wrong about AGar

the whole time

.


I think airick may have been beeboy's red check?

If you look at #5047 he votes A50 as if to pressure him for his jailkeep targets. You could think that HE was the red check, but then in #5063 he votes Airick because Airick is in his POE which absolutely does not make sense if he actually thought that A50 could be scum. It was clearly obvious he believed Airick was guilty. In #5065 I say I'd be fine with voting Airick on a serious note because I believed he was scum.

Almost50 says he jailkept Dunn N1, Kraska N2, Airick N3, and me N4. So beeboy shouldn't have been roleblocked unless Airick did it, which doesn't make sense for Airick to roleblock beeboy as opposed to a claimed PR because beeboy never scumread him prior and gave no indication as such.

1. Nosferatu/Vedith and Airick10 were definitely lynch candidates on days they were lynched.
2. I don't understand this logic. I see four possibilities: a) you are town and you're wrong about AGar, b) you are scum and you're correct about AGar, c) you're the traitor and AGar is also scum (or partners), d) you're both town and this game will be harder than expected. Why can't I entertain more than one possibility at a time?

[Zachstralkita]

You said you didn't mind going, though. So you shouldn't mind.

[Boem_u_dusi]

You said you didn't mind going, though. So you shouldn't mind.

You first

VOTE: Zachstralkita

[Transcend]

dudes it's probably just AGar

VOTE: AGar

[Zachstralkita]

RIP TOWN

[Transcend]

I know I said I'd never kill meta before due to PJM killing Firebringer when they were buddy buddy, but...

Zach killing Titus doesn't make sense since Titus was sold he was town.

So I think A50 was likely just saved honestly.

[Boem_u_dusi]

dudes it's probably just AGar

VOTE: AGar

Yeah, I think Zach is just stubbornly wrong here.

VOTE: AGar

[Boem_u_dusi]

RIP TOWN

Town is doing pretty fine and tomorrow we get new batch of information if we fail today. I'd say it's 96% locked.

[Boem_u_dusi]

It would be 100% if beeboy paid more attention in his highschool logic classes.

[Transcend]

zach kraska boem and shannon have obvtowned themselves throughout several points of this game

agar has been towny at times but i just think the motivation behind his content wasn't towny.

based on stupid meta zach and shannon should be conf town..

taking a gamble i'd lean kraska and boem town over agar.

[shannon]

OK VOTE: AGar

[Zachstralkita]

What are you going to say when AGar flips green like I've been saying..?