Open 645: C9++ - Game Over

Postie · Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:42 am

In post 2379, LicketyQuickety wrote: Even if that is true, it doesn't make you Town.

Why? It kinda does.

In post 2389, RadiantCowbells wrote:Postie, I will engage with you for the sake of engaging with you since it's our last game together but there is like no chance that I will push for an LQ lynch before yours.

Engaging with me isn't really engaging if you're ignoring everything I'm saying. And also not actually trying to figure out my alignment.

In post 2393, RadiantCowbells wrote:If you think that I'm town, Postie, LQ is confscum fypov. But I'm not losing this game and I'm certainly not losing it to you.

Why is LQ confscum?
I'm bad with set-up stuff.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:44 am

I haven't engaged you as of now. Do you really, really want me to? And no, I'm not because I'm pretty certain that you're scum.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:45 am

In post 2367, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm pretty sure Ranger claims VT anyway so let's just break this down. If this is T:

RC town
Davesaz town
Bins town
Zac town
APF town
Ranger unknown
LQ unknown
Postie unknown

If this is TTT:
RC town
Zac town
APF town
Ranger town
1 scum between {Davesaz, Bins}
1 scum between {LQ, Postie}

So Postie who I've been wanting to lynch since the beginning is pretty much scum either way.

From the PoV of me being town you should have the scumteam confirmed as either
LQ/Ranger or LQ/Davesaz or LQ/Bins.

Assuming Ranger claims VT. If she claims PR then scum gets confirmed either way.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:50 am

In post 2400, Postie wrote:
In post 2379, LicketyQuickety wrote: Even if that is true, it doesn't make you Town.
Why? It kinda does.

No, it doesn't. For one, meta can change. Second of all Night chat can have a huge impact on how a slot is perceived and that means Scum can talk about how they present themselves in the game. With a little knowledge from someone else, meta can make a complete 180.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:51 am

@RC, can you just shut up for like a few pages? That would be great. You're wearing on my nerves right now.

Postie · Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:53 am

In post 2401, RadiantCowbells wrote:I haven't engaged you as of now. Do you really, really want me to?

Yes.

Postie · Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:53 am

I still don't understand but alright

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:56 am

Hi. Can you explain your Bins scumread a bit more?

Zachstralkita · Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:01 am

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:04 am

Yes your reads sucked deal with it.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:12 am

In post 2409, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yes your reads sucked deal with it.

Could you be any more obnoxious?

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:15 am

I mean yes?

Postie · Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:33 am

Alright so

In post 1867, Bins wrote:
In post 1857, Ranger wrote:You know that townread I had on Smithereens, Postie's slot?

Totally gone.

Would sheep you here.
I can't fathom how you're coming to any conclusion but the opposite right now about Postie.

In post 1871, Bins wrote:I would do farmer too. But how the heck is RC still pushing Postie rn?

The whiteknighting here mildly pinged me.

In post 1888, Bins wrote:But Postie, why the scumread on me? Can you say PoE? Hint: that's the only response I'll accept.
I'm surprised. I'm the only person looking at you objectively : |

In post 1897, Bins wrote:i'm not whiteknighting you

if you're town you should be happy i'm seeing this!?

And then following it up by appealing to me like this just felt gross.

I can maybe see those posts by themselves coming from town but then

But then

In post 1900, Bins wrote:don't make me doubt myself lmfao

In post 1914, Bins wrote:VOTE: postie

congrats

i have officially lost my townread on you because of your logic

This

happens.

I can't explain it properly but basically

In post 1970, Postie wrote:Here I'll give you an example of a similar situation from another game.

In post 174, pieguyn wrote:yeah Postie is town.

next
And guess what happened after I called her out on it?

In post 291, pieguyn wrote:
In post 276, Postie wrote:
In post 259, pieguyn wrote:you're playing a lot differently from the movie upick where you were 3rd-party and just lurked the entire game.
So you're really confident I'm town based on meta from 1 game?
Yeah that seems legit.

VOTE: piegirl
I'm not "really confident" you're town. I have you as a town read for now but that doesn't mean I'm "really confident" about it; I'm obviously still going to be attempting to read you to confirm/deny it.
"Oh, uh, I'm not actually that confident what are you talking about"

It feels like the same situation as the above.

Ehhhh in hindsight I can maybe potentially see the vote on me coming from frustrated town being trollish but I doubt it.

Postie · Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:33 am

In post 313, Bins wrote:like even if i was scum youd be scumreading me for the wrong reasons

Also this was bad.

Not_Mafia · Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:28 am

In post 2361, davesaz wrote:
@MOD: are blocked shots by 1-shot roles refunded?

If a player is role blocked they take no action, so do not use a shot

davesaz · Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:44 am

Ah, that's something that varies from game to game / mod to mod. Thanks for clarifying.

Bins and APF can't have both been RB'd, so we have a nice 1v1.
We still

wait for Ranger

. It is

very

important that we do this.

davesaz · Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:48 am

Actually it isn't a 100% 1v1, as scum and sk could have double killed.

@MOD please verify, doc protects only one kill?

I know, silly question but I really believe in being extra safe.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:51 am

In post 2416, davesaz wrote:Actually it isn't a 100% 1v1, as scum and sk could have double killed.

@MOD please verify, doc protects only one kill?

I know, silly question but I really believe in being extra safe.

It says it does in the OP.

Bins · Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:53 am

APF is town and not lying. As I said I never claimed to be sure I was roleblocked.

Bins · Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:02 am

In post 2301, Bins wrote:There's a chance both scum shot Dunn, so my protect failed. But I was leaning toward I got roleblocked and scum shot Zach (which is the smart play) and he got protected/the kill got stop.

this is literally the first part of my fullclaim

Bins · Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:21 am

Normal guidelines say shots should not be refunded. Either way, sucks to suck but it doesn't matter.

a plain farmer · Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:48 pm

Given what we already know (1C, 1M, 1V, 1 or 3 Ds, 1 or 3 Ts), I'm finding that there's statistically about a 96% chance we're in a D setup and a 4% chance we're in a DDD setup. Hopefully someone more confident in statistical things than I can take a look at this.

Between the two docs, I'm much more suspicious of Bins. She was crumbing way too much for an actual doc, and crumbing at all I'd rate as scummy. Not to mention that 2363 kinda sounds like "But we thought, if it was you, the shot would've been used up".

Bins · Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:52 pm

Okay. But I don't think Dav is lying and I'm not lying. Also, again. Why wouldn't I just have claimed a protect on Zach? BECAUSE IM NOT LYING.

I do think we should to wait for Ranger. Then lynch out of LQ, RC, Ranger, and Postie. I'd rank it RC>LQ>Postie and I'll rank Ranger after she claims.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:53 pm

VOTE: Bins

Reads are too trash to live. bye.

Not_Mafia · Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:54 pm

In post 2416, davesaz wrote:Actually it isn't a 100% 1v1, as scum and sk could have double killed.

@MOD please verify, doc protects only one kill?

I know, silly question but I really believe in being extra safe.

Correct