In post 348, rb wrote:Tbh I'm starting to wonder why you want to lynch TNE if you think Rosske is town because I find it hard to believe that TNE is TNE scum vs. Rosske town interaction. It's either Rosske scum or Town vs. Town. Imo if Rosske flips town it's super unlikely she's scum, and there's probably scum off-wagon and/or in GL + Karnos.
TNE absolutely makes sense if she's scum and Rosske is town -- anyone on Rosske's wagon can fit as scum if he's town, hence why I believe it's more likely he is indeed town, as for Rosske to be scum, that whole posse voting him needs to be all town (extremely unlikely), or someone is bussing, and I really think only you are a viable choice. There's way more combinations of alignments possible when you have Rosske as town.
As an aside, I'm starting to believe TNE is the most town out my lynch pool, mostly on the back her lol-oh-wait-there-are-actually-3-mafia post. I don't see mafia dropping blatantly obvious town tells like that very often. Most of the time, mafia tend to play in as a truthful as possible, as a way to imitate town sincerity. It's more rare to see mafia lie in this manner. Again, another occam's razor: more likely that post comes from town actually forgetting, then scum going out of their way to obfuscate.
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In post 355, rb wrote:I don't really get it tbh, because the Franky/Infinity slot was inactive up until all of 10 hours ago and Franky's replace was consistent site-wide. I think we're talking past each other because I said that if Rosske flips Town I think there's scum in GL/Karnos or off his wagon. I don't really see how Karnos isn't a viable scumbuddy of Rosske. Based on what Karnos has said, it's viable imo. I mean maybe it's not normal or expected for scum to bus partners the way Karnos has, but karnos has said:
- he's never seen a derphammer based on unannounced L-1 this early in-game
- only scum would derphammer
- anyone who derphammers should be policy lynch
If Karnos + Rosske are scum, and Karnos really thinks it's basically impossible for someone to derphammer Rosske here unless they themselves are scum, it's actually easy for Karnos to just assume that he can bus here and it's not going to get his buddy lynched, while simultaneously putting them in strong position to win the game because the immediate conclusion is that Karnos + Rosske scum is impossible. Scumreads for me are Rosske/GL/Karnos.
Apologies if I were talking past you -- I actually don't know if I was as I was phone posting, but it seems like we've got a lot of different branches of conversation happening here.
A question for you. Why are you so open to keeping a Karnos/Rosske combination as a realistic possibility alive, when earlier in the game you posted this:
In post 148, rb wrote:Tbh I like 146 and 147 from rosske.
VOTE: karnos
Don't like this guy though. And me not liking him makes me not like rosske's wagon.
Would you say your opinion on the Rosske wagon or Rosske/karnos as a combination has changed since this post?