In post 321, Zorblag wrote:@innocentvillager, I've taken a look at my scum games and I don't think that I've ever been partnered with a name anything like bitmap. And here's the problem with that. You're saying that you skimmed over my scum games and think that I played them just like I'm playing this one. That might be true occasionally, but it's not the way I typically play as scum as it's not usually good scum play. Good scum play isn't playing exactly how you would as town (the way I play as town draws the sort of attention that I've got now and I often have to talk myself out of it.) Good scum play blends in and simply makes sure that town's attention isn't focused correctly on the scum team. I'm having trouble believing that you actually did the looking you say you did and find it more likely that you're trying to find something that will make people suspect me.
I could've sworn you were partners with Bitmap, or at least someone named Bitmap replaced you and won the game for scum while you were scum. I don't know why I can't find it anymore! Regardless, you scumreading me for this is baseless and silly.
I'm not saying necessarily that all your scumgames look the same or whatever, you're strawmaning my argument. My point is, I'm not going to townread you for doing stuff like looking for meta, writing up long walls, pushing activity, pushing prods on people, because you've done all of that in your scumgames. I'm also trying to convince Rach if she's town to stop townreading you for these things and your play being similar to 1222, since IMO your play looks pretty similar regardless of your alignment.
I'm going to stop pushing you today because I don't really remember after a few days exactly why I was hard scumreading you (I mean, I know the reasons for which I was scumreading you, but I may have confbias driven myself to believe they were a lot more incriminating than I thought) but you are no higher than null leaning scum for me.
I will say that I find your reasoning on ecane plausible though. It's not how I would have gone about it (I was largely not bringing her up much until asked because there was no need to draw attention to her,) but I did have similar thoughts.
Regarding whether I think you're misrepresenting what I've had to say about the Foxbird question, I do, but I don't know how much is intentional and how much is not reading carefully. You're saying that I switched my vote to RachMarie just because of that post which is an odd assumption. Here's what I said to Nachomamma8 about it a bit after making the switch:
In post 173, Zorblag wrote:After the talking with Foxbird some I've come around on her; I am more inclined to believe that the reference you're talking about for the delta9 vote is the more likely (which surprises me some as the "I quit" struck me as almost certainly a game statement when I read it and before I knew if he'd posted anywhere.) I also think that I've got more insight into how she's reasoning than I did and, although it's not how I would reason, knowing that the reasoning is there is important.
It also looks like you're still saying that I was asking the question for no reason, but here's what I had to say about that (to you no less):
In post 228, Zorblag wrote:I'd concluded by that point that Foxbird was keying in on different aspects of the game than I was and valuing different things in her analysis of the game state. There wasn't any danger of her being lynched in the near future, and I wanted to see a bit more evidence of the sort of details she would hone in on before that before shifting my vote to another candidate. There wasn't a right or wrong answer she could give offhand, but assuming she was willing to answer it gave me more insight to where her attention was in the game.
The bigger issue that I'd expect one could have with my vote switch that came after the post was why it didn't go to Gratuitous, but Nachomamma8 already brought that one up.
I'm not sure what you find scummy about the move even without knowing that though. I didn't use an unfair question against the person I was asking it of and I wasn't keeping her in danger of imminent lynch. It wasn't a transparent question, but there are aspects of town play that shouldn't be entirely transparent as this is a game of information control.
I was still sorting her motives and what to expect from her. Knowing what she was paying attention to is useful. Saying that I said the answer didn't matter doesn't match what I've told you.
I probably missed some stuff and didn't understand stuff fully, I think arguing about this one little post is not useful at this point and probably is just a playstyle difference. I scumread because I found it weird without much town motivation but I suppose it could just be you being you. I'll drop this one.
Beyond that I see that you're still sticking with the "Zorblag is a terribly clever and dangerous, sophisticated scum who could be fooling us all, but who also panicked at having a vote cast on him at day 2 and gave it all away," line of thought. Does that not strike you as an unlikely combination?
I don't know what speculative oversimplified AtE you're trying to accomplish here, but I think you were hoping that the rant you made would sway town members to solidify you as town. I can think of scum-motivation for it, but I can't really see town motivation. It was just too little pressure for you to burst your bubble. Honestly, you pointing it out is WIFOM, you painting yourself-scum in an oversimplified narrative here is WIFOM, and to answer your question, no, the way I see it what you're doing is not an unlikely combination at all. I'm only staying off your lynch today because I want actual content Rach and she's way scummier than you right now.
As for knowing why my play helps town, town should all know exactly how what they're doing will help town in the long run. If you don't then you're probably playing the game suboptimally. I'm not a perfect player as town, I'm worse than I am as scum because town is harder to play. Glancing at my wiki it looks like my town record was only 21-10. I do however know the things that I think will help town though, and I do them. If you'd like me to point you to other town games where I've had to make the same sorts of cases because town get stuck on thinking that play they don't understand or that draws attention to me is scummy just let me know. Saying that I'm scum because I have this knowledge is ridiculous.
Finally, if you're convinced that you've caught the entire scum team through process of elimination after a single day night cycle I guess I'm impressed by your conviction? Are your reads normally that dead on this early in the game? I don't expect town to be looking as little into the other cases that you're so sure of at this point if there's no room for error at all in your current reads. You aren't looking like town trying to figure out who's scum. You're looking like scum trying to make a wagon you thought was going to go somewhere happen.
My reads are rarely completely off. Even in Newbie 1222, I pegged Cinders and Ghost in my top three even if it was all horribad logical reasoning and gut. I usually get at least one scum in my top three scum. I'm almost positive one scum exists between you and Rach, if not two.
Overt-narcissism aside, no I'm not completely sure of my reads other than one of you/Rach being scum. I'm open to the idea of Foxbird-scum even if most of her D1 play was pretty town, I'm somewhat open to Nacho or Jaack scum. I've just spent basically all of my posting energy here directed at responding to your daily walls lol, since I am spread out over multiple games.
I do have more time now after exams (barely snagged my A in biochem!!), so I should be able to put more effort into this game.
-Zorblag R`Lyeh
He did pay me so I was able to pay the electric bill before it was shut off. 
