Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

[Parama]

@Cookie

: give me a night's sleep to cool down and i'll prob go back to boring. i'm just mad. i'm taking it out on the dummy

[Elyse]

@Titus
I see what you're saying.

But Ira didn't come into this day expecting to have to fakeclaim. I think he panicked, picked an odd but believable role (he said he's played in a game with it before) and didn't think about what he was doing when he said he checked Shaziro. He just wanted to make sure his claim was correct.

[Cookie Bakers]

@Parama, still not cool. Being verbally abusive isn't cool and when you do that, I just want to tune you out.

~Titus

[iraonavp]

VOTE: iraonavp

I could maaaaaaaaaaybe buy Ira being an idiot and not knowing how to play his role. But I'd probably lynch him on that alone because his thought process makes no sense as town. Like even if he was actually scumreading Shaziro, what would a non-VT result mean? FUCKING NOTHING.

But then Ira just so happens to check the ONE person who claimed a PR today. How convenient.

I don't believe it. He's scum.

Okay, this is ridiculous...

And I soft claimed my result before I even saw Shaziro claim... Non-VT result means they are slightly more likely to be scum-aligned, that's the best that my role can do apparently with this many PRs.

If I was lying, why would I say that I targeted Shaziro instead of a VT then? I wouldn't target any of the two VT claims (even though everyone says it was the best idea supposedly), because that does not give me much information when they are shown as VT.

[MathBlade]

That makes no sense whatsoever.

no, it makes pure, perfect, delicious sense, and you either refuse to acknowledge it or are too dumb to understand why it makes sense.

Don't you think scum would coach iraonavp on how to claim neopolitan? His action makes sense for a newbie.

Why would scum tell him that's his fakeclaim and NOT check DGB or Elitism?

I'm not thinking iraonvp is the smartest crayon, but I don't see a scum set of behaviors. Could he be? Sure. Am I a fan of this wagon? No.

~Titus

I am actually. Especially since you tried to confirm DGB and voted ironavp earlier for claiming VT. Now you have proof they are lying and don't want to vote them because you claim this is like a newbie?

I was with a newbie scum Neopolitan who was on his own because both the partners flaked before I replaced in and they didn't fake claim VT. Like newbie town doesn't lie. This reeks of a failed gambit especially with the DGB/Ironavp/Cookie Bakers interactions.

[iraonavp]

let me just repeat this part for emphasis.

DEAR IRAON: you are the one who screwed up here and everything anyone says negatively about you is completely justified from a town point of view

[size reduced by Titus]

Hey, you need a talking to.

Just because someone makes a mistake doesn't make them a punching bad for the so called "better" players to pound on. Get a grip.

~Titus

It doesn't matter, just a game that he is taking too seriously I guess...

[Cookie Bakers]

@Titus
I see what you're saying.

But Ira didn't come into this day expecting to have to fakeclaim. I think he panicked, picked an odd but believable role (he said he's played in a game with it before) and didn't think about what he was doing when he said he checked Shaziro. He just wanted to make sure his claim was correct.

Possible, but I just find it so remote and farfetched. With so many players, someone should have coached iraonvp if he was scum.

~Titus

[VA-11 Hall-A]

VOTE: Mathblade

Actually we should get this guy

-Dunn

This is a better alternative to the Ira wagon.

Ira can be dealt with quietly.

If the group is dumb, I would pray that CCC can be dealt with quietly.

~Titus

You have little reasoning to back up your tunnel

-Dunn

Then why do I have 4 votes there already? You think CCC is town? Why is he town given his poor play yesterday? Don't gloss over it.

~Titus

I don't think he's town

I don't think he's worth voting over bacde or mathblade

You have 4 votes there... I don't even know, people just hopped on, not like they intend to lynch him

-Dunn

[Parama]

p-edit: titus the point is that his moves make no sense from a town perspective and that's why scumreads based on his play are justified

[Cookie Bakers]

That makes no sense whatsoever.

no, it makes pure, perfect, delicious sense, and you either refuse to acknowledge it or are too dumb to understand why it makes sense.

Don't you think scum would coach iraonavp on how to claim neopolitan? His action makes sense for a newbie.

Why would scum tell him that's his fakeclaim and NOT check DGB or Elitism?

I'm not thinking iraonvp is the smartest crayon, but I don't see a scum set of behaviors. Could he be? Sure. Am I a fan of this wagon? No.

~Titus

I am actually. Especially since you tried to confirm DGB and voted ironavp earlier for claiming VT. Now you have proof they are lying and don't want to vote them because you claim this is like a newbie?

I was with a newbie scum Neopolitan who was on his own because both the partners flaked before I replaced in and they didn't fake claim VT. Like newbie town doesn't lie. This reeks of a failed gambit especially with the DGB/Ironavp/Cookie Bakers interactions.

Are you seriously scumreading DGB right now?

[Cookie Bakers]

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p-edit: titus the point is that his moves make no sense from a town perspective and that's why scumreads based on his play are justified

But they do make sense supposing a town that has zero clue what he is doing...

~Titus

[Parama]

why does it have to be a town that has zero clue what they're doing? why not a scum that has zero clue what they're doing?

[Elyse]

Where did you soft your result?

I just explained the lie on checking Shaziro is so your result is true. Shaziro claimed to have rolecopped you so you knew when he was a PR.

The fact that you're not getting this is making me hesitant. I could be wrong but there are so many coincidences. I'm gonna have to go back and reread tomorrow. Going to bed now.

[iraonavp]

@Titus
I see what you're saying.

But Ira didn't come into this day expecting to have to fakeclaim. I think he panicked, picked an odd but believable role (he said he's played in a game with it before) and didn't think about what he was doing when he said he checked Shaziro. He just wanted to make sure his claim was correct.

I fakeclaimed on day 1...

I was forced to claim otherwise Shaziro would be able to lynch me and then when I flip town-aligned neapolitan he would be seen as right in saying that I was lying.

Yes, I did play with neapolitan before but it was scum-aligned and I didn't know it could be town-aligned role so why would I claim it?

I already showed that I targeted Shaziro before I was forced to claim my real role. You are either missing this or pretending to.

[Parama]

like, iraon already isn't listening to what people in-thread have to say. why should i believe that he'd listen to what his scumbuddies tell him to do?

[iraonavp]

why does it have to be a town that has zero clue what they're doing? why not a scum that has zero clue what they're doing?

Because I don't have zero clue what I'm doing...

[Shaziro]

for clarification's sake:

Shaziro, what specifically is your result on ira? did you get his exact role or a VT/not VT result?

p-edit: mathblade is bleeding town all over the place, i have no clue why anyone is voting him

I saw him use a Neapolitan check. I was checking the scummiest of the VT claims to me, and look, I was right. He was lying.

VOTE: Iraonavp

Pedit-math can confirm, I specifically told the hood that I would be getting information on iraon to help solve this VT business.

[iraonavp]

like, iraon already isn't listening to what people in-thread have to say. why should i believe that he'd listen to what his scumbuddies tell him to do?

I don't know what you are referring to, but I am not lying...

[VA-11 Hall-A]

Hey what's up

Hey guys just trying to fit in here don't mind me

I'm still in RVS

Lmao I just isoed hot chocolate.

Hilarious

VOTE: hot chocolate

^this seems like a self-obsessed-aligned post

VOTE: bacde

Let's lynch this guy

-Dunn

[MathBlade]

the iraon shenanigans were fun but now it's time to lynch the real scum imo

Right, which is why I instead voted Cookie Bakers.

Note how she jumps onto iroanavp for the reasoning "there can't be two vanilla town in a game" but doesn't consider DGB, or that it's a 42 person game
They also didn't consider that iroanavp didn't see the initial claim (which I believe regardless of his alignment) and used that as reasoning while ignoring the other points on him

-Dunn

Dgb is obvtown. It's it could be 45678875543 role madness. By it's nature, role madness strongly suggests only one vt.

I don't believe iraonvp because the stance is very unlikely given his posts.

Yeah, iron's scum. The wagon on us is gross.

~Titus

....This is fishy. This is what I am saying. I am not sure what the hell happened here but this is very weird from Titus.

[Wake1]

Official Vote Count

2.05

CCC

(4): Cookie Bakers, Skelda, Accountant, RachMarie

iraonavp

(4): Parama, MathBlade, Elyse, Shaziro

Accountant

(1): iraonavp

Bacde

(1): VA-11 Hall-A

Not Voting

(28): Almost50, PeregrineV, Skybird, Foxbird, CCC, Creature, Klingoncelt, DrippingGoofball, Varsoon, Aeronaut, Seraphim, hebichan, amalgam, Map Wolf, serrapaladin, Lapsa, Bacde, Egg, TownBlock, Narna, Hot Chocolate, Boem_u_dusi, boring, Elitism, long_island_medium, AlpacaAlpaca, Bellaphant, Drixx

With 38 alive, it takes 20 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-08-30 22:30:00)

[Skelda]

Wait Ira, didn't you claim because someone asked you why you said that you felt pressure in a specific Town game with having an important role? And yet you felt that Neapolitan was important enough to warrant a VT claim? Was that first part a lie too?

[VA-11 Hall-A]

Yes, I did play with neapolitan before but it was scum-aligned and I didn't know it could be town-aligned role so why would I claim it?

How could you not know it could be a town role, if it's the role you were

like what

-Dunn

[iraonavp]

Where did you soft your result?

I just explained the lie on checking Shaziro is so your result is true. Shaziro claimed to have rolecopped you so you knew when he was a PR.

The fact that you're not getting this is making me hesitant. I could be wrong but there are so many coincidences. I'm gonna have to go back and reread tomorrow. Going to bed now.

I said here:

Neapolitan can check if they are VT or not. I actually checked Shaziro and he is not VT (and obviously he is not we can tell now).

I think CCC is scum-aligned, I'm happy to vote him too.

VOTE: CCC

I think Shaziro (especially), Accountant, CCC, and hebichan are scum-aligned at this stage.

That's why I wrote "especially" next to Shaziro in this post, because I have a result on him.

I still think he is scum-aligned motion detector, there is no reason to claim that...

It is just coincidence...

Maybe I don't get it because you are just talking nonsense and nobody gets it except yourself!

[Parama]

i'm totally up for invoking lynch all liars tbh

p-edit: iraon, why does someone showing up as not-VT make them more suspicious?