Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

[iraonavp]

If you get VT, then Neapolitan is useful because it could be used to confirm DGB and Long_Island_Medium as Town and a No Result would tell you virtually nothing.

Vanilla Cop is more useful because I think its optimal use is to catch Goons. Neapoliton can't catch Goons, so it is best used to confirm Town.

Okay, well those two players I already thought are town-aligned, so it doesn't in this case even though you are being theoretical about it...

It doesn't matter what you think. You could be wrong and your role is useless apart from that.

The only thing is, if Ira were a scum Neapoliton why wouldn't his buddies tell him to target either Long Island or DGB? That seems like the optimal choice from their perspective too given that they can't be confident in those claims either. Unless, of course, he's buddies with one of them.

You are right that I don't have any buddies, but your argument is nonsense. I still stand by that I made the correct choice. I very highly doubt that either of the VT claims are scum-aligned.

You didn't.

Your role exists to confirm your accuracy, not to hunt down suspicions.

I disagree. If you were a cop, why would you check someone you think is town-aligned? Neapolitan is basically a weaker cop, but you will not be very sure about a guilty result.

There was so much time spent yesterday talking about how there weren't usually many VTs in role madness. And you clearly understood it yesterday, you talked about it. You are either lying about who you investigated or you made an awful choice.

Ira, if you are left alive you aren't going to do what you just did again right? Can you check a VT claim?

Okay, just stop it doesn't matter...

[iraonavp]

I didn't mean to quote those posts.

[Skelda]

If you get VT, then Neapolitan is useful because it could be used to confirm DGB and Long_Island_Medium as Town and a No Result would tell you virtually nothing.

Vanilla Cop is more useful because I think its optimal use is to catch Goons. Neapoliton can't catch Goons, so it is best used to confirm Town.

Okay, well those two players I already thought are town-aligned, so it doesn't in this case even though you are being theoretical about it...

It doesn't matter what you think. You could be wrong and your role is useless apart from that.

The only thing is, if Ira were a scum Neapoliton why wouldn't his buddies tell him to target either Long Island or DGB? That seems like the optimal choice from their perspective too given that they can't be confident in those claims either. Unless, of course, he's buddies with one of them.

You are right that I don't have any buddies, but your argument is nonsense. I still stand by that I made the correct choice. I very highly doubt that either of the VT claims are scum-aligned.

You didn't.

Your role exists to confirm your accuracy, not to hunt down suspicions.

I disagree. If you were a cop, why would you check someone you think is town-aligned? Neapolitan is basically a weaker cop, but you will not be very sure about a guilty result.

There was so much time spent yesterday talking about how there weren't usually many VTs in role madness. And you clearly understood it yesterday, you talked about it. You are either lying about who you investigated or you made an awful choice.

Yes, but this all happened after I claimed VT, and I could hardly go back on it then. I knew I would have to claim eventually but I just tried my best to go along with it for now because I didn't expect Shaziro to immediately out me... And I talked about it to say that there were clearly more VTs in this game even though it's "role madness"...

Neither of those things are the case!

You are not listening to me and are talking in circles. Honestly this isn't a helpful conversation and is just spamming up the thread so I'm going to stop. Just investigate longislandmedium or DGB if you survivre today and don't question it.

[Lapsa]

@MathBlade why do you scumread Cookie Bakers?

[iraonavp]

People who suspect Bacde, what makes him worse than anyone else who voted Hot Chocolate? His low activity/lack of substance? I do agree that optimal scum strategy is to do nothing for the first few days and there probably is a high scum-density in less active people, but Day was very short and everyone was throwing Hot Chocolate votes around.

I don't necessarily have a problem with his wagon, but it is hard to justify with so little substance.

When I played with Bacde and he was town-aligned, he had very high activity and was clearly town-aligned. I was scum-aligned and we immediately killed him because he was obviously town-aligned and a threat to us. In this game, he is just lurking and making sarcastic posts which appear designed to imitate that...

[iraonavp]

If you get VT, then Neapolitan is useful because it could be used to confirm DGB and Long_Island_Medium as Town and a No Result would tell you virtually nothing.

Vanilla Cop is more useful because I think its optimal use is to catch Goons. Neapoliton can't catch Goons, so it is best used to confirm Town.

Okay, well those two players I already thought are town-aligned, so it doesn't in this case even though you are being theoretical about it...

It doesn't matter what you think. You could be wrong and your role is useless apart from that.

The only thing is, if Ira were a scum Neapoliton why wouldn't his buddies tell him to target either Long Island or DGB? That seems like the optimal choice from their perspective too given that they can't be confident in those claims either. Unless, of course, he's buddies with one of them.

You are right that I don't have any buddies, but your argument is nonsense. I still stand by that I made the correct choice. I very highly doubt that either of the VT claims are scum-aligned.

You didn't.

Your role exists to confirm your accuracy, not to hunt down suspicions.

I disagree. If you were a cop, why would you check someone you think is town-aligned? Neapolitan is basically a weaker cop, but you will not be very sure about a guilty result.

There was so much time spent yesterday talking about how there weren't usually many VTs in role madness. And you clearly understood it yesterday, you talked about it. You are either lying about who you investigated or you made an awful choice.

Yes, but this all happened after I claimed VT, and I could hardly go back on it then. I knew I would have to claim eventually but I just tried my best to go along with it for now because I didn't expect Shaziro to immediately out me... And I talked about it to say that there were clearly more VTs in this game even though it's "role madness"...

Neither of those things are the case!

You are not listening to me and are talking in circles. Honestly this isn't a helpful conversation and is just spamming up the thread so I'm going to stop. Just investigate longislandmedium or DGB if you survivre today and don't question it.

Okay, I agree that it's not a helpful conversation.

I'll target long_island_medium if you really want.

[Skelda]

People who suspect Bacde, what makes him worse than anyone else who voted Hot Chocolate? His low activity/lack of substance? I do agree that optimal scum strategy is to do nothing for the first few days and there probably is a high scum-density in less active people, but Day was very short and everyone was throwing Hot Chocolate votes around.

I don't necessarily have a problem with his wagon, but it is hard to justify with so little substance.

When I played with Bacde and he was town-aligned, he had very high activity and was clearly town-aligned. I was scum-aligned and we immediately killed him because he was obviously town-aligned and a threat to us. In this game, he is just lurking and making sarcastic posts which appear designed to imitate that...

Is he definitely lurking or is he just busy? Because I missed the entire first Day, I'm not exactly ready to call someone scum for not being around.

[Cookie Bakers]

Spoiler: Cuz bored - Read to Blake Shelton's Ol Red

Well I caught CCC with a terrible line
And it cost me a lot of time
In a thread trying to secure a lynch that's right
Well I've been here for two long days
I finally made the Drixx my friend
And so he sentenced me to a life of ease
Takin' care of ol' red now ol' red
CCC's the damnedest dog that I've ever seen
Got a nose that can dodge a two day trail
He's a four legged sneakin' machine
You can consider yourself mighty lucky
To get past the townies in the extreme derpfest
But all these years that I've been here ain't nobody got past this

And the Drixx sang
Come on somebody why don't you run
Logic's itchin' to have a little fun
Get my lantern get my gun
Town'll have you treed 'for the mornin' comes

Well I payed off the mod
And I sent out a letter to my hoodmates out east
And they brought down a plan as pretty as could ever be
Well we pinned up to the votecounts
'Bout a day south of the thread open
Well I'd take off for my slumber this evenin'
I'd just drop him off and wait

And the Drixx sang
Come on somebody why don't you run
Logic's itchin' to have a little fun
Get my lantern get my gun
Town'll have you treed 'for the mornin' comes

Now I got used to seeing my Shiro every night
So I am going to be sad when we have no more GIF days
We waited 'til the time got right
Well I made my run in the evenin' sun
And I smiled when I heard the scums come out
'Cause I was headed north to GiFlands and the scums were heading south

And the Drixx sang
Come on somebody why don't you run
Logic's itchin' to have a little fun
Get my lantern get my gun
Town'll have you treed 'for the mornin' comes

Now there's happiness
All in the town
Love got me in here
And love got me out

[Cookie Bakers]

If you get VT, then Neapolitan is useful because it could be used to confirm DGB and Long_Island_Medium as Town and a No Result would tell you virtually nothing.

Vanilla Cop is more useful because I think its optimal use is to catch Goons. Neapoliton can't catch Goons, so it is best used to confirm Town.

Okay, well those two players I already thought are town-aligned, so it doesn't in this case even though you are being theoretical about it...

It doesn't matter what you think. You could be wrong and your role is useless apart from that.

The only thing is, if Ira were a scum Neapoliton why wouldn't his buddies tell him to target either Long Island or DGB? That seems like the optimal choice from their perspective too given that they can't be confident in those claims either. Unless, of course, he's buddies with one of them.

You are right that I don't have any buddies, but your argument is nonsense. I still stand by that I made the correct choice. I very highly doubt that either of the VT claims are scum-aligned.

You didn't.

Your role exists to confirm your accuracy, not to hunt down suspicions.

I disagree. If you were a cop, why would you check someone you think is town-aligned? Neapolitan is basically a weaker cop, but you will not be very sure about a guilty result.

There was so much time spent yesterday talking about how there weren't usually many VTs in role madness. And you clearly understood it yesterday, you talked about it. You are either lying about who you investigated or you made an awful choice.

Yes, but this all happened after I claimed VT, and I could hardly go back on it then. I knew I would have to claim eventually but I just tried my best to go along with it for now because I didn't expect Shaziro to immediately out me... And I talked about it to say that there were clearly more VTs in this game even though it's "role madness"...

Neither of those things are the case!

You are not listening to me and are talking in circles. Honestly this isn't a helpful conversation and is just spamming up the thread so I'm going to stop. Just investigate longislandmedium or DGB if you survivre today and don't question it.

Okay, I agree that it's not a helpful conversation.

I'll target long_island_medium if you really want.

Any VT claimer.

[Lapsa]

can't overlook Titus attentiveness on CCC

[iraonavp]

???

P-edit:
Were you saying Cookie town slipped by saying "this is most likely multiball"? Because to me it looks fake. The setup is OBVIOUSLY multiball

I feel like I'm missing something

It used to say that the setup was multiball in one of the signup threads but the moderator evidently removed that from the opening post. It is still pretty obviously multiball if there are 4 kills in a night though...

[iraonavp]

People who suspect Bacde, what makes him worse than anyone else who voted Hot Chocolate? His low activity/lack of substance? I do agree that optimal scum strategy is to do nothing for the first few days and there probably is a high scum-density in less active people, but Day was very short and everyone was throwing Hot Chocolate votes around.

I don't necessarily have a problem with his wagon, but it is hard to justify with so little substance.

When I played with Bacde and he was town-aligned, he had very high activity and was clearly town-aligned. I was scum-aligned and we immediately killed him because he was obviously town-aligned and a threat to us. In this game, he is just lurking and making sarcastic posts which appear designed to imitate that...

Is he definitely lurking or is he just busy? Because I missed the entire first Day, I'm not exactly ready to call someone scum for not being around.

Maybe, he needs to post then. All he did was post a naked vote on me and then immediately leave, I don't see why he could read enough to want to vote me and then not have anything else to say...

I don't get a good feeling from what he has posted, either.

[Cookie Bakers]

can't overlook Titus attentiveness on CCC

No one has given a reason CCC is town, just diversions.

Until then, CCC needs more rope.

[iraonavp]

People who suspect Bacde, what makes him worse than anyone else who voted Hot Chocolate? His low activity/lack of substance? I do agree that optimal scum strategy is to do nothing for the first few days and there probably is a high scum-density in less active people, but Day was very short and everyone was throwing Hot Chocolate votes around.

I don't necessarily have a problem with his wagon, but it is hard to justify with so little substance.

When I played with Bacde and he was town-aligned, he had very high activity and was clearly town-aligned. I was scum-aligned and we immediately killed him because he was obviously town-aligned and a threat to us. In this game, he is just lurking and making sarcastic posts which appear designed to imitate that...

Is he definitely lurking or is he just busy? Because I missed the entire first Day, I'm not exactly ready to call someone scum for not being around.

Maybe, he needs to post then. All he did was post a naked vote on me and then immediately leave, I don't see why he could read enough to want to vote me and then not have anything else to say...

I don't get a good feeling from what he has posted, either.

Also, that reminds me of something that I saw when I was reading ISOs earlier.

@MOD: I'd like to be revealed as innocent child

This is a very scum-aligned post because he is trying to copy my post 334. He literally read the entire thread to find that post to parody, and had nothing else to say than a joke trying to appear natural!

[MathBlade]

Can't sleep. Cookie Bakers is a hypocrite. They said cCC's play regarding VTs was bad.

I point out where they thought ironavp is scum and their logic directly contradicts what they are doing now.

I am not touching CCC with a 1000 foot pole and those of you voting should look hard at Cookie Bakers.

[Cookie Bakers]

Can't sleep. Cookie Bakers is a hypocrite. They said cCC's play regarding VTs was bad.

I point out where they thought ironavp is scum and their logic directly contradicts what they are doing now.

I am not touching CCC with a 1000 foot pole and those of you voting should look hard at Cookie Bakers.

Dumb town is a thing.

You should sleep.

[Lapsa]

on page 70...

not liking Skelda's entrance. seems all over the place

[MathBlade]

IRAON IF YOU ARE VT THEN IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE VT WHY ARE YOU ASKING THIS

This

Now, if you'll excuse me, I will grab my guns and exit stage left.

Seriously....Like if Iroanavp was telling the truth they would have to know VTs exist. The fact that one of the heads points it out and then conveniently pushes CCC today is HORRIBLE.

The stuff they accuse CCC of doing being a hypocrite is what Cookie Bakers is doing.

Stop voting the counter wagon.

[MathBlade]

Can't sleep. Cookie Bakers is a hypocrite. They said cCC's play regarding VTs was bad.

I point out where they thought ironavp is scum and their logic directly contradicts what they are doing now.

I am not touching CCC with a 1000 foot pole and those of you voting should look hard at Cookie Bakers.

Dumb town is a thing.

You should sleep.

You only call me dumb as scum.

[Lapsa]

@Cookie Bakers perhaps i've missed it - are you in a hood?

[Cookie Bakers]

IRAON IF YOU ARE VT THEN IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE VT WHY ARE YOU ASKING THIS

This

Now, if you'll excuse me, I will grab my guns and exit stage left.

Seriously....Like if Iroanavp was telling the truth they would have to know VTs exist. The fact that one of the heads points it out and then conveniently pushes CCC today is HORRIBLE.

The stuff they accuse CCC of doing being a hypocrite is what Cookie Bakers is doing.

Stop voting the counter wagon.

@Lapsa, Yup. Kinda figured it wasn't obvious already from something someone said D1 but yup. 3 person hood here.

[Cookie Bakers]

Can't sleep. Cookie Bakers is a hypocrite. They said cCC's play regarding VTs was bad.

I point out where they thought ironavp is scum and their logic directly contradicts what they are doing now.

I am not touching CCC with a 1000 foot pole and those of you voting should look hard at Cookie Bakers.

Dumb town is a thing.

You should sleep.

You only call me dumb as scum.

Iraonvp is dumb town.

You're just please shut up and sleep.

[MathBlade]

I love how you call me crazy instead of addressing the hypocrisy I pointed out.

[Parama]

Seriously....Like if Iroanavp was telling the truth they would have to know VTs exist. The fact that one of the heads points it out and then conveniently pushes CCC today is HORRIBLE.

The stuff they accuse CCC of doing being a hypocrite is what Cookie Bakers is doing.

Stop voting the counter wagon.

over 1000 posts happened between this post and end of day

[Parama]

why is CCC not scum, math? you have yet to answer this.