In post 2544, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:you know for someone named MathBlade you're taking a pretty OBTUSE angle HAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
CB is not scum and CCC most likely is, given the facts
- Zach
Your obtuse is my acute depending on location. To me the obtuse thing is assuming someone who has a gun in 42 player game means guilty. A tracker or a watcher has much more credence over a guilty. Shaziro's or Varsoon's guilties are actual guilties. Not this.
No. They caught liars.
I caught scum. What cop attacks their supposed innocent?
In post 2544, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:you know for someone named MathBlade you're taking a pretty OBTUSE angle HAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
CB is not scum and CCC most likely is, given the facts
- Zach
Your obtuse is my acute depending on location. To me the obtuse thing is assuming someone who has a gun in 42 player game means guilty. A tracker or a watcher has much more credence over a guilty. Shaziro's or Varsoon's guilties are actual guilties. Not this.
No. They caught liars.
I caught scum. What cop attacks their supposed innocent?
Cops don't attack they check.
1) there were no confirmed towns so no innocents.
2) A neo hits a claimed VT always if town.
/me sighs
Still catching up Cookie Butters still needs rope.
In post 2544, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:you know for someone named MathBlade you're taking a pretty OBTUSE angle HAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
CB is not scum and CCC most likely is, given the facts
- Zach
Your obtuse is my acute depending on location. To me the obtuse thing is assuming someone who has a gun in 42 player game means guilty. A tracker or a watcher has much more credence over a guilty. Shaziro's or Varsoon's guilties are actual guilties. Not this.
No. They caught liars.
I caught scum. What cop attacks their supposed innocent?
Just link the post and don't put unnecessary spin on it. Attacks? That really left a bad taste in my mouth CB.
In post 2544, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:you know for someone named MathBlade you're taking a pretty OBTUSE angle HAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
CB is not scum and CCC most likely is, given the facts
- Zach
Your obtuse is my acute depending on location. To me the obtuse thing is assuming someone who has a gun in 42 player game means guilty. A tracker or a watcher has much more credence over a guilty. Shaziro's or Varsoon's guilties are actual guilties. Not this.
No. They caught liars.
I caught scum. What cop attacks their supposed innocent?
Cops don't attack they check.
1) there were no confirmed towns so no innocents.
2) A neo hits a claimed VT always if town.
/me sighs
Still catching up Cookie Butters still needs rope.
Right..
CCC supposedly gunsmith checked Sera.
They doubtcasted Sera in 2305.
They admit to never softing their result in case they died.
In post 2544, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:you know for someone named MathBlade you're taking a pretty OBTUSE angle HAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
CB is not scum and CCC most likely is, given the facts
- Zach
Your obtuse is my acute depending on location. To me the obtuse thing is assuming someone who has a gun in 42 player game means guilty. A tracker or a watcher has much more credence over a guilty. Shaziro's or Varsoon's guilties are actual guilties. Not this.
No. They caught liars.
I caught scum. What cop attacks their supposed innocent?
Just link the post and don't put unnecessary spin on it. Attacks? That really left a bad taste in my mouth CB.
In post 2544, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:you know for someone named MathBlade you're taking a pretty OBTUSE angle HAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
CB is not scum and CCC most likely is, given the facts
- Zach
Your obtuse is my acute depending on location. To me the obtuse thing is assuming someone who has a gun in 42 player game means guilty. A tracker or a watcher has much more credence over a guilty. Shaziro's or Varsoon's guilties are actual guilties. Not this.
No. They caught liars.
I caught scum. What cop attacks their supposed innocent?
Cops don't attack they check.
1) there were no confirmed towns so no innocents.
2) A neo hits a claimed VT always if town.
/me sighs
Still catching up Cookie Butters still needs rope.
Cookie Bakers was right, you don't talk to your supposed green check like
In post 2384, Narna wrote:So the guy who said this today doesn't have a gun?
In post 2095, serrapaladin wrote:would now be a good time to mention that I'm an actual, for-real VT?
hmmm, maybe I'm too deep, but this seems more than a little convenient.
It does seem convenient however I believe CCC. This claim looks like a way to dodge iroanavp's wrap.
Besides if CCC were scum then the rest of the scum team would be idiots not to have him claim something that has a gun but doesn't require a check. The claim is so convenient there is no way scum made that up IMO.
In post 2544, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:you know for someone named MathBlade you're taking a pretty OBTUSE angle HAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
CB is not scum and CCC most likely is, given the facts
- Zach
Your obtuse is my acute depending on location. To me the obtuse thing is assuming someone who has a gun in 42 player game means guilty. A tracker or a watcher has much more credence over a guilty. Shaziro's or Varsoon's guilties are actual guilties. Not this.
No. They caught liars.
I caught scum. What cop attacks their supposed innocent?
Cops don't attack they check.
1) there were no confirmed towns so no innocents.
2) A neo hits a claimed VT always if town.
/me sighs
Still catching up Cookie Butters still needs rope.
Cookie Bakers was right, you don't talk to your supposed green check like
In post 2095, serrapaladin wrote:would now be a good time to mention that I'm an actual, for-real VT?
That make you number four to claim the role. So far, two of the other claimants have been shown to be lying.
You are under no particular pressure to claim, and it is no longer day one. Why have you elected to make this claim
now
, of all times?
This is not how someone talks to their alleged clear.
CCC is obviously lying. Why the fuck would CB fakeclaim gunsmith JUST to get CCC lynched?
Also, read above again. You DON'T talk to your gunsmith check like that if you find a " no gun " result.
Granted, there are anti-town roles that do not have guns (SK, namely) but why would CCC actively push on their green check?
Tell me what I'm missing here, Geometry.
- Zach
Claiming VT also defeats the purpose.
Yes it is. If they are trying to determine redirection or other shenanigans. The "now" especially reads like frustration that if CCC had to claim it would not necessarily be believed.
In post 2384, Narna wrote:So the guy who said this today doesn't have a gun?
In post 2095, serrapaladin wrote:would now be a good time to mention that I'm an actual, for-real VT?
hmmm, maybe I'm too deep, but this seems more than a little convenient.
It does seem convenient however I believe CCC. This claim looks like a way to dodge iroanavp's wrap.
Besides if CCC were scum then the rest of the scum team would be idiots not to have him claim something that has a gun but doesn't require a check. The claim is so convenient there is no way scum made that up IMO.
You mean Vig which he denied?
Cop requires a check?
Rolecop requires a check?
I boxed him in by accusing him of being a murderer first.
In Normal games on mafiascum.net, a Gunsmith gets guilties on all Mafia (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers. A Werewolf faction should be treated the same as any other Mafia family.
Gunsmith
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Alias: none
Alignment: any
Role type:
Informative
Choice:
Night
The Gunsmith is an information role that can target a player at Night to learn if they have a gun in flavor. Members of the Mafia (that are not Doctors), Cops, FBI Agents, Vigilantes, other Gunsmiths, Paranoid Gun Owners, etc. all have guns in traditional flavor. Notably, Serial Killers and Doctors do not have guns.
Gunsmiths are usually, but not necessarily, pro-Town. They are considered somewhat weaker than standard Cops and are usually included in setups where they can get positive results on players who are not Mafia-aligned.
For more information, see Cop and Flavor Cop.
Normal Guidelines
In Normal games on mafiascum.net, a Gunsmith gets guilties on all Mafia (except Traitors and Doctors), Cops, Vigilantes, Gunsmiths, Role Cops, Vanilla Cops, Backups of roles with guns and JoATs that have any of these listed powers. A Werewolf faction should be treated the same as any other Mafia family.
From the wiki
CCC could have claimed a SHIT TON of powerful town roles. Hell they could have claimed cop. This is and was not a guilty.
The fact this guilty claim came after is horse manure.
In post 2384, Narna wrote:So the guy who said this today doesn't have a gun?
In post 2095, serrapaladin wrote:would now be a good time to mention that I'm an actual, for-real VT?
hmmm, maybe I'm too deep, but this seems more than a little convenient.
It does seem convenient however I believe CCC. This claim looks like a way to dodge iroanavp's wrap.
Besides if CCC were scum then the rest of the scum team would be idiots not to have him claim something that has a gun but doesn't require a check. The claim is so convenient there is no way scum made that up IMO.
This may be a poor association, but you think ccc's claim was bad enough that he's town, and Iraon's insanely anti-town play isn't bad enough to be town?
This needs more words and I could definitely sheep it.
I've been stating CCC is scum.
Egg wants to sheep me when I'm explicitly doubting the guilty on my townread.
I haven't read the game. It's basically only been in day while i'm working...
One or more of Klingon/Peregrine V/Egg are scum. Those votes are ridiculously terribad.
LMFAO this is hilarious, Egg " could " be scum yet he RB'd us, admitted to RBing us, and we have a flipped JK. That makes the chance of scum on that go up way more. Klingon/Peregrine scum? Nah.
MathBlade wrote:
In post 2557, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:Varsoon's "guilty"? Varsoon got a not VT on DGB because DGB turned out to be a one-shot BP if I'm not mistaken
WHICH YOU DO CLAIM VT WITH THAT BECAUSE IF YOU CLAIM BP IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF YOUR FUCKING ROLE.
In post 2544, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:you know for someone named MathBlade you're taking a pretty OBTUSE angle HAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
CB is not scum and CCC most likely is, given the facts
- Zach
Your obtuse is my acute depending on location. To me the obtuse thing is assuming someone who has a gun in 42 player game means guilty. A tracker or a watcher has much more credence over a guilty. Shaziro's or Varsoon's guilties are actual guilties. Not this.
No. They caught liars.
I caught scum. What cop attacks their supposed innocent?
Cops don't attack they check.
1) there were no confirmed towns so no innocents.
2) A neo hits a claimed VT always if town.
/me sighs
Still catching up Cookie Butters still needs rope.
Cookie Bakers was right, you don't talk to your supposed green check like
In post 2095, serrapaladin wrote:would now be a good time to mention that I'm an actual, for-real VT?
That make you number four to claim the role. So far, two of the other claimants have been shown to be lying.
You are under no particular pressure to claim, and it is no longer day one. Why have you elected to make this claim
now
, of all times?
This is not how someone talks to their alleged clear.
CCC is obviously lying. Why the fuck would CB fakeclaim gunsmith JUST to get CCC lynched?
Also, read above again. You DON'T talk to your gunsmith check like that if you find a " no gun " result.
Granted, there are anti-town roles that do not have guns (SK, namely) but why would CCC actively push on their green check?
Tell me what I'm missing here, Geometry.
- Zach
Claiming VT also defeats the purpose.
Yes it is. If they are trying to determine redirection or other shenanigans. The "now" especially reads like frustration that if CCC had to claim it would not necessarily be believed.
Um...
no
, you don't get to do that and just act like it's okay.
If you claim BP no one shoots at you EVER for obvious reasons but you may still be investigated.
Claiming VT, all bets are off. But if someone tries to kill you, your role still gets used. I'm not sure that you understand lying can and does have pro-town motivation, in which case you're deliberately hindering scumhunting.
Narna wrote:
In post 2557, VA-11 Hall-A wrote:Varsoon's "guilty"? Varsoon got a not VT on DGB because DGB turned out to be a one-shot BP if I'm not mistaken
WHICH YOU DO CLAIM VT WITH THAT BECAUSE IF YOU CLAIM BP IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF YOUR FUCKING ROLE.
You needlessly claim vt on d1 in a role madness game as bp townie. lolok.
You're talking like me like I did it. I don't give a shit, but to assume DGB is scum off of that is a faulty thought process at its core.
~Cyberpunk Bartender Action~
-Hydra of Zachstralkita and Dunnstral-
I mean, it is very possible to set up a fake claim well in advance. Titus was there for me in our last Large Normal, adventure mafia. I was -way- ahead with my fake claim. That said, this one isn't fake imo.
In post 2446, CCC wrote:Cookie Bakers: Claimed access to a Gunsmith result (I suspect the actual gunsmith may be a different person, either in Cookie's neighbourhood or Cookie's mafia)
why do you think this
and more importantly
why would you say this
Because of the way Cookie phrased it. They specifically did not claim gunsmith, but said they had access to a gunsmith result.
pretty much this is why
- zach
~Cyberpunk Bartender Action~
-Hydra of Zachstralkita and Dunnstral-
