Open 648: Ari's Donner Party Mafia! Game Over! :O

[lane0168]

Uh no it's ideal scum play.

Cy was scummy from the get-go, bus hard, bus often.

So why can't he have caught scum? Why do you believe he bussed. Then got off the wagon when no one was feeling is which is what town would do. Then started right back up again day 2? What makes you mean towards bussing and not good job town?

[Realeo]

Maj, how are you feeling about lo lately? You asked early if we are going to just let her skirt by. And we have. I'm pretty sure she killed dunn

I personally have been trying to insert Io's name in my argument for scum/sk, but I kinda fail to find the proof.

[Majiffy]

Uh no it's ideal scum play.

Cy was scummy from the get-go, bus hard, bus often.

So why can't he have caught scum? Why do you believe he bussed. Then got off the wagon when no one was feeling is which is what town would do. Then started right back up again day 2? What makes you mean towards bussing and not good job town?

He never really argued for it. His *actions* are right but his *words* don't fit the bill. His votes are ones of convenience, not conviction. He

knew

he was scum and

knew

that was the right place to have his vote, but never felt the burning passion to get that person lynched.

[Majiffy]

Maj, how are you feeling about lo lately? You asked early if we are going to just let her skirt by. And we have. I'm pretty sure she killed dunn

I personally have been trying to insert Io's name in my argument for scum/sk, but I kinda fail to find the proof.

Io was my outside shot at SK if Shinobi flipped town.

And a better SK read has not bloomed so I'm good with that.

[Io]

Maj, how are you feeling about lo lately? You asked early if we are going to just let her skirt by. And we have. I'm pretty sure she killed dunn

I assume this is a SK accusation and not Vigilante.
But I don't get why because what reason as SK do I have to go Mafia hunting night 1? Considering how I called 2 people mafia partners day 1, one gets nigh killed and the other flipped mafia the next day, as an SK shooting Dunn wouldn't make sense. Granted I wouldn't have known GM would flip Mafia as I only guessed they would but killing the other person I suspected as Mafia wouldn't be smart. Not to mention the huge chance for a cross kill since I did advocate Dunn and/or GM to be bogged.

[Majiffy]

If I were SK I'd gun for the mafia ASAP, the sooner you get them down to the same level as you the better.

[Majiffy]

Of course I'm not sure why Lane has been allowed to persist for so long but that's another argument entirely.

[Io]

If I were SK I'd gun for the mafia ASAP, the sooner you get them down to the same level as you the better.

But that would mean the Mafia would have been immediately eliminated before night 2 which is horrible for the SK as the Mafia is their only cover.

[Majiffy]

That requires a whole lot of assumptions I'm not willing to agree on.

[lane0168]

If I were SK I'd gun for the mafia ASAP, the sooner you get them down to the same level as you the better.

Especially with no flip

[Majiffy]

Oh good at least I'm not the only one that understands what I'm saying here.

[Realeo]

The thing that rattle dazzle me is why I'm not dead? farplay and me are (1)universally townread--with few exceptions (2)Push on {GM,Aplaca,Majiffy}.

If I were SK I'd gun for the mafia ASAP, the sooner you get them down to the same level as you the better.

I always considered this. However, personally if I'm SK, I will just kill JaeReed, frame Dunstral as a lynch bait and spend my kill on other player. But that's just me.

[Majiffy]

See I think lynchbait opportunities should be saved for late-game. You do it early and people aren't likely to fall for it again.

[Io]

You should always try and mislynch as scum with the exception that at some point in multiball you will want to lynch or kill your opponent.
Just not day 1-2 or night 1.
I get the idea of hiding a dead mafia but it would be very likely all Mafia and vig are dead if there is only 1 kill day 2 and 3 so killing Mafia night 1 only works for like 2 day phases.

[Realeo]

See I think lynchbait opportunities should be saved for late-game. You do it early and people aren't likely to fall for it again.

That clicks. Not 100% agree but that clicks.

Dunn <-- Killed by SK.
JaeReed <-- Killed by Scum. (I don't think vig?)

Logic dictates at this point, Dunn and JaeReed are T v T, correct? The next question will be, why will JaeReed killed by scum. Why not roleblocker instead? lane already called GM's plan to fake CC at d1 and GM hardclaimed not-roleblocker, so the opportunity to wifom the roleblocker is off the table...

You should always try and mislynch as scum with the exception that at some point in multiball you will want to lynch or kill your opponent.
Just not day 1-2 or night 1.
I get the idea of hiding a dead mafia but it would be very likely all Mafia and vig are dead if there is only 1 kill day 2 and 3 so killing Mafia night 1 only works for like 2 day phases

Is it possible for vig to no-kill? Maybe we face a competent vigilante, for once.

[Io]

Vig uses their own judgment I think they should kill scum reads they have, but probably not shooting every night.

[Realeo]

That clicks. Not 100% agree but that clicks.

The reason I not 100% agree with Majiffy's

See I think lynchbait opportunities should be saved for late-game. You do it early and people aren't likely to fall for it again.

is that I don't believe that's the case in a game of Vig v SK v Maf. If it's SK v Maf with town having no vig, I agree. On a case where there is a vig, a sk kill can be confused as a vig kill and people believe that it's not a lynch bait.

I will play ball for the time being.

[Majiffy]

You should always try and mislynch as scum with the exception that at some point in multiball you will want to lynch or kill your opponent.
Just not day 1-2 or night 1.
I get the idea of hiding a dead mafia but it would be very likely all Mafia and vig are dead if there is only 1 kill day 2 and 3 so killing Mafia night 1 only works for like 2 day phases.

... We're talking about 1 dead mafia not all dead mafia please do try and read a little before you click submit

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Io

Lets just do this today if you people won't vote Gameplay

[gameplay506]

Uh no it's ideal scum play.

Cy was scummy from the get-go, bus hard, bus often.

So why can't he have caught scum? Why do you believe he bussed. Then got off the wagon when no one was feeling is which is what town would do. Then started right back up again day 2? What makes you mean towards bussing and not good job town?

He never really argued for it. His *actions* are right but his *words* don't fit the bill. His votes are ones of convenience, not conviction. He

knew

he was scum and

knew

that was the right place to have his vote, but never felt the burning passion to get that person lynched.

You obviously have some kind of a problem or are just scum. I lacked passion? Really? Maji please.
Quote any of my posts to support this misrep of me.

[Majiffy]

Prove a negative? Ok buddy I'll get right on that

[AlpacaAlpaca]

Genuinely didn't know about the fake hammer, though it doesn't matter because its all WIFOM but I wasn't paying much attention

VOTE: Io

Lets just do this today if you people won't vote Gameplay

can you just quickly sum up why Game is scum

[Majiffy]

I think Cy/gameplay are partners, look at when Realeo was making the meta case and gameplay was all excited but he just let the case get dropped and hasn't really been pushing Cywagon. He's just sitting comfy there as a distancing vote.

Probably more in my ISO but I'm on my phone and that's the first result to pop up

[gameplay506]

Its all such a bad misrep
I was pushing cy
But when nobody listens I aint gonna be a stubborn animal and keep on pushing. After all were 3 scum.

[Majiffy]

The only misrep is you claiming it was a push