Mini 1821 Badass Women U-Pick Mafia - game over

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why would what he claimed be a bad fakeclaim?

For one it's provable. So if he's outright lying, he'll be caught eventually.

For another, it's containable. We can have him claim his shots prior to night phase (which is also btw how we prove his role or not) such that he can't do scum things and claim "oh well I thought they were scum so".

For a third, the complexity of the role and the way it matches up poorly wiht his flavour doesn't seem like something he'd decide to do if he was going to take that long to devise a fakeclaim. Like a vig who only works when someone else targets it too? Paranoid vig?

I mean...

There's so much anti-scum motiations behind the action that eventually it starts to just become town aligned action motivation.

And the idea that you're ignoring all this is just ???

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Mollie

I want this today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I wld like to hear an answer to this too!

Like this shit needs to fucking die.

These are the words of a scum who is watching their easy mislynch slip away and wants desperately to respond to me with some form of discrediting of my thoughts to continue to push by virtue of apathy and status quo this Ari lynch.

Ari is town, we're not lynching him today.

[pirate mollie]

I wld like to hear an answer to this too!

Like this shit needs to fucking die.

These are the words of a scum who is watching their easy mislynch slip away and wants desperately to respond to me with some form of discrediting of my thoughts to continue to push by virtue of apathy and status quo this Ari lynch.

Ari is town, we're not lynching him today.

sure

you do that.

can you plz talk to me as if I will always be around?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I wld like to hear an answer to this too!

Like this shit needs to fucking die.

These are the words of a scum who is watching their easy mislynch slip away and wants desperately to respond to me with some form of discrediting of my thoughts to continue to push by virtue of apathy and status quo this Ari lynch.

Ari is town, we're not lynching him today.

sure

you do that.

can you plz talk to me as if I will always be around?

No, because you're being lynched today so

[pirate mollie]

will still be around

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if you're claiming something then fucking claim it, I'm not dealign with bs half claims that you can pretend never happened later.

[pirate mollie]

I am claiming something. I am something in which I shld most likely be around no matter what you pple do.

[Luna Fox]

Inb4 deathproof

[Luna Fox]

For one it's provable. So if he's outright lying, he'll be caught eventually.

Well to prove the role, we'd need to send someone to do an action on his target, hence making a potential useful role waste a night, and announcing who's doing what may involve roleblocks or he himself can be roleblocked, I already have a thing that i dislike about roles that require other town roles wasting actions to be useful.

For another, it's containable. We can have him claim his shots prior to night phase (which is also btw how we prove his role or not) such that he can't do scum things and claim "oh well I thought they were scum so".

Well this is true.

For a third, the complexity of the role and the way it matches up poorly wiht his flavour doesn't seem like something he'd decide to do if he was going to take that long to devise a fakeclaim. Like a vig who only works when someone else targets it too? Paranoid vig?

Well the complexity of the role is what's giving me misgivings, but it may be me just having a general dislike of roles that rely on other PRs to waste their actions to even be useful =/

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: luna

[Luna Fox]

That is a vote on me alright.

[TellTaleHeart]

And the idea that you're ignoring all this is just ???

I'm not ignoring it. If I was ignoring it, I would've not even bothered to ask you.

For a third, the complexity of the role and the way it matches up poorly wiht his flavour doesn't seem like something he'd decide to do if he was going to take that long to devise a fakeclaim. Like a vig who only works when someone else targets it too? Paranoid vig?

That

did

occur to me. I don't think Ari made up the mechanic. The thing about that is that scum fakeclaims are usually minor variations on their actual role. Ari could be telling the truth about everything except the vig part.
And before you go accusing me of doubtcasting or whatever, this isn't just me talking out my ass. I've had to do this myself as a mod for role madness games twice now.

I was going to respond to all three of your points, but as I was typing it out I think I might understand what you were getting at with the first two.
The idea is to have Ari claim a target and then have a mini-massclaim the next day to see if anyone else also targeted her?

That might be worth doing

[Luna Fox]

That might be worth doing

What

[beegirl]

Vote: Mollie

I want this today.

Tempting.

[TellTaleHeart]

That might be worth doing

What

I'm not in the right mental state to deal with this
Use your words please.

[pieguyn]

if we don't want to lynch Aris (even though I still feel mostly sure he's scum here), I would be more than OK with pirate mollie as an alternative lynch.

I'm also seriously, seriously, _seriously_ considering something else, but it would thoroughly fucking suck if I'm wrong about it, so (though the fact I'm even thinking about it at this point is in itself probably a huge red flag). everyone should know what I mean by this, but it's the kind of thing where there's such a huge sense of finality in actually explicitly saying it and there's no way in hell I burn that bridge until I'm 100% sure on it.

[beegirl]

Is it Layla or Luna?

[beegirl]

VOTE: Mollie

Being a double voter is fun.

[pieguyn]

I have lost approximately 100% of my conviction Layla is scum. you should be able to figure the rest out from there.

[TellTaleHeart]

I might know what you're talking about? If it is what I think it is, I don't think I agree.

[Luna Fox]

That might be worth doing

What

I'm not in the right mental state to deal with this
Use your words please.

But i just explained why it's a bad idea BEFORE you said this :<

[TellTaleHeart]

Well to prove the role, we'd need to send someone to do an action on his target, hence making a potential useful role waste a night, and announcing who's doing what may involve roleblocks or he himself can be roleblocked, I already have a thing that i dislike about roles that require other town roles wasting actions to be useful.

Right,
Sorry I'm half-drunk and waiting for One Punch Man to come on so I'm not all ~there~ mentally

[pieguyn]

Luna, are you _sure_ you're OK?

this would be the point where I expected you'd be up in arms that I made such a big deal over GIF-slot and ignored you telling me otherwise, only for me to go and stop thinking GIF was scum. I wasn't expecting that what I said in 1091 would be something you'd just outright ignore.

my obvious inclination is to attribute it to you being scum, but that response has no fire even for scum-you.

[Luna Fox]

Luna, are you _sure_ you're OK?

this would be the point where I expected you'd be up in arms that I made such a big deal over GIF-slot and ignored you telling me otherwise, only for me to go and stop thinking GIF was scum. I wasn't expecting that what I said in 1091 would be something you'd just outright ignore.

my obvious inclination is to attribute it to you being scum, but that response has no fire even for scum-you.

I just assume you're finally coming down to earth