Wake's Massive Role Madness - Game Over

[MathBlade]

Per the Normal Rules, 'Neighbor' is a modifier, making any slot not Vanilla.

The Neighbors should out themselves.

This is definitely scum. Needs rope pronto but not more so than Valhalla who scum claimed.

[RachMarie]

ok thought you were hinting a gunsmith read there Titus my bad.

Still as you saw in the stuff I shared with my hood I have felt that math is scum.

[Cookie Bakers]

Titus let me be your protégé. Teach me in the way i should go. This guy is blatant scum but i didn't see it until you said something.

Not even waiting for hydra quote.

First, I am better when you don't suck up. So feel free to disagree.

D1 (end): Massive townread, "arrogant"
D2 (attacks masons), (attacks DGB iraonvp myself, shades guilty on CCC), (tries to argue CCC is gun role, despite blatant fake), (never strongly an other guilty)
D3 (opens doubt casting Dunn, serra, and iraonvp)

There's very little asking why in their ISO. It's attack, deflect, and shade. On D2, their reads were practically screaming whatever saves CCC.

Flawless, hardly but Math is a great place to start.

[RachMarie]

i agree with all of that its pretty much why I am scum reading math I even rage capped in the hood about it

[Cookie Bakers]

ok thought you were hinting a gunsmith read there Titus my bad.

Still as you saw in the stuff I shared with my hood I have felt that math is scum.

I do not have a guilty today. My result is "does not have a gun". Reset your crumbs. I obviously did not check Math.

[MathBlade]

K just finished my skim read people.

My thoughts of this thread can be summarized in a few simple sentences.

Pants are awesome for protecting roles.
Cookie Bakers is being derpy but arrogant. This is usually Titus town when this happens.
Hot Chocolate wagon at this point worth analyzing when we know more. The game turning towards lynching a low poster IMHO is interesting.

VOTE: boem_u_dusi

For voting via steak rarity to display confidence but doesn't expand on why and then says they can be uncooked later. I think when boem voted ironavp earlier they were trying to sheep but then realized the wagon wasn't going anywhere so started dropping things from "rare" to innocent child, but there is no explanation of such.

Sibling*

I am trying to figure out why not a single of the claimed masons got shot. Like I mentioned in the PT w/ Shaziro I had scum reads on Cookie butters and Parama and DGB all as scum reads and this happens. Like what? Assuming there are at least two scum teams in a 42 player game how did they communicate? I can understand WiFoM a bit but that seems a bit much with 4 NKs.

FYI motion detector sees if some activity happened on a slot. It doesn't say what.

And good god. It is not a preference it is my gender.

*glares hard*

Look at these two posts in context. Unless something happened in the hood, this is a pretty rapid transition.

This. This is bullshit.

I was fucking offline.
There was Sunday Monday and Tuesday and then lynch and didn't even get a chance to explain that I found two boem crumbs that made me want to drop my vote (and another that makes me want to add it)

Then day starts. I am allowed to fucking read the thread and make opinions.
That flash lynch really ticks me off because I have a full time job and can't be posting during the game at work because it goes too damn fast. Like other games I can do over a 15-20 minute lunch break. This one not a chance in hell.

So yeah I had a read shift. Three days worth of content does that.

Will go into more detail in my big reads post when done catching up.

[Egg]

I got an action failure last night when I investigated DGB to see if he had a gun.

...so there's that.

You shouldn't have claimed this before the roleblockers claimed.

Which egg still needs to do

-Dunn

Varsoon wasn't my target. Elyse was.

[MathBlade]

Roleblockers (egg, townblock) should claim their targets.

-Dunn

Why?

Vote Sera

Sheeping Rach's thoughts in the neighborhood to an extent. I can buy that there are associatives to CCC. I don't agree with the lurking excuses case or whatever it was.

This is scum. Anytime you are an outed negative utility role such as Egg's self proclaimed roleblock you should announce your target in your first post so people know what you did and if there is a redirect or a roleblocker or in late game CC if/when what you are saying is impossible/possible.

Any outed role with actions should always out unless damaging for town.

E.g. Cookie Bakers not outing innocent is another example.

[Cookie Bakers]

I want your reads list Math.

*waits patiently*

@Egg, Thank you.

[RachMarie]

Egg if you are going to sheep me do it right I said Elyse was a TOWN read of mine and why

[MathBlade]

I forgot. Also dunn was singing a song.

I got an action failure last night when I investigated DGB to see if he had a gun.

...so there's that.

How did you investigate anyone after claiming one shot Neopolitan? One shot gets results means shot is done.

[Egg]

I still maintain that DrippingGoofball is scum. Egg/Townblock also contains at least one scum roleblocker because I don't see why they would target Dunn/Zach hydra on N1.

Blanche was my neighbor and said something about VA's actions towards king being mason were pretty bad. I'm way behind so it was the best thing i had to work with N1.

[MathBlade]

Never played on epicmafia. Both of you do realize that the argument "I was just quoting a song" or "I was making a joke about epicmafia despite it not being mentioned, because that's where this guy plays" is exactly what the goal would be if that's a traitor making himself known to his team, right?

Yeah, but you could say that about any context provided. It's highly unlikely though.

I'm sorry, you're trying to tell me that Va-11 Hall-A deciding, completely out of thin air, to quote an old song for no reason whatsoever...is more likely that it actually being significant to the game?

Yup. That's Dunn.

No it isn't. And you know better. I replaced into a game with Dunn and saw none of that. Will look again but pretty damn sure you know this isn't Dunn.

[Cookie Bakers]

I forgot. Also dunn was singing a song.

I got an action failure last night when I investigated DGB to see if he had a gun.

...so there's that.

How did you investigate anyone after claiming one shot Neopolitan? One shot gets results means shot is done.

Look at his text again. He was gunsmithing DGB. He's a joat.

[MathBlade]

@shaz, can you summarize your hoods n1 chat?

Permission to Garcia? Or are you explicitly wanting this from Shaziro?

[MathBlade]

I forgot. Also dunn was singing a song.

I got an action failure last night when I investigated DGB to see if he had a gun.

...so there's that.

How did you investigate anyone after claiming one shot Neopolitan? One shot gets results means shot is done.

Look at his text again. He was gunsmithing DGB. He's a joat.

That isn't what he claimed though. He claimed one shot Neo. A Joat is not a one shot neo it is a part of Joat.

[RachMarie]

if there are any more JOATS out there DO NOT CLAIM UNLESS YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL GUILTY ON SOMEONE PLEASE

Seriously Math of course he did not claim JOAT

look at the night kills

grumble grumble

[Cookie Bakers]

@shaz, can you summarize your hoods n1 chat?

Permission to Garcia? Or are you explicitly wanting this from Shaziro?

You can. Shaz can verify.

[Thor665]

Hey Thor.

It's Titus.

I am a gunsmith that guiltied CCC on day 2. That's how I got my status.

Also, your vote sucks. Let's vote my sibling.

~Titus

The only good thing I see about your vote is the theory defense.
What makes my vote suck? That slot is talking empty.

[MathBlade]

So, if known lurkers are being null-read for lurking (I'm assuming), that's MathBlade, Skybird, Bacde, Seraphim, AlpacaAlpaca.
Egg is on V/LA and Yume is in amalgam.
... I'm okay with throwing creature into the suspicious lurker list. He's posted 9 one-liners. Two were naked votes (three if the words "choo choo" aren't enough to make it not-naked). Though, I'd rather they just contribute more[substance] than have to vote them for lurking.
p-edit: 10 posts.

And Shiro?

I agree with Mathblade and Creature

In my experience, Skkybird, Bacde, Seraphim and Alpaca tend to post in spurts.

Yup and Shiro, I am part of the Cookie Bakers

~Shiro

I specifically reference this post in the overnight QT. Shiro and you have played with me numerous times. The last thing I am is a lurker. That is blatantly false. If anything I have post addiction problems. The fact that you didn't correct your hydra or do anything to correct the incorrect perceptions is rather telling.

Furthermore I discussed that Cookie Bakers and Dripping Goofball were likely scum together based on the weird as fuck obvTown shit. Then Shaziro brought up the Dunn hydra and them hammering a town read. At first I read it as frustration towards not being listened to. However that combined with the blue crumb (more on that in a bit) and VCA I really suspect Valhalla.

[Cookie Bakers]

Spoiler: quotes

Anyways reads lol this is going to be terrible but here's my recollection of ONE read of the first 24 pages

Creature- null
TownBlock (Dwlee99 / Murdercat / McMenno)- townlean
DrippingGoofball- mixed feelings gonna go with null-town
PeregrineV- null-town
Blackstar- null
VA-11 Hall-A (Dunnstral / Zachstralkita)- town
serrapaladin- null
Skybird- don't think he posted
hebichan- scum
Narna- null-scum
Varsoon- townlean
Egg- don't think he's posted
Blanche (gigabyteTroubadour / kraska77)- null leaning slightly town
Aeronaut- don't think he posted
boring- hardscum
amalgam (davesaz / Yume / randomidget)- null
RachMarie- townish
Fire Assassin- town
Seraphim- don't think he posted
Bacde- tomato
Drixx- town
CCC-town
iraonavp- leantown
Accountant- town
Elyse- on the fence leaning town right now
Cookie Bakers (Titus / Shiro)- scum
KlingonCelt- don't think they've posted
BBMolla- don't remember them posting
Lapsa- null
Foxbird- don't think she's posted
shos- null
Boem_u_dusi- scum >:) just kidding, null.
Almost50- null
Skelda- don't remember them posting
Hot Chocolate- null-scum
long_island_medium
Bellaphant- don't think she's posted
AlpacaAlpaca- don't think he posted. don't worry buddo we're town
Shaziro- town
Parama- hard town
Mathblade- null

I expect almost everyone to have a role in this game? After all this is the role madness game, right? I'm getting worried my claim was stupid.

There's probably a fuck ton of PR's

but whether there's 1 Pr or 20 PR's you don't claim PR for

NO

FUCKING

REASON

~T

I actually hate myself

{Boem_u_dusi, Parama}
{VA-11 Hall-A, Blanche, CCC, iraonavp, Shaziro}
{Fire Assassin, Drixx, Accountant}
{Town Block, Varsoon, long_island_medium}
{Foxbird}
{PeregrineV}
{DrippingGoofball, RachMarie, Elyse}
{Bacde, shos}
{Creature, serrapaladin, Skybird, Egg, Aeronaut, Seraphim, BBMolla, Almost50, Skelda, Bellaphant, AlpacaAlpaca, MathBlade}
{BlackStar, amalgam}
{Narna}
{Klingoncelt}
{Cookie Bakers, Lapsa}
{hebichan}
{Hot Chocolate, boring}

Anyways Kraska77 this is a Forty-Two Player Motherfucking game.

I've never been in a game that size

I've barely been in games half that size

I don't expect the two scum teams to be composed of people in the null tier (the largest one) or lower.

I'm just giving initial thoughts for notes for me and my other two heads.

And I guess to see who all agrees with me or not... lol

[/quote]

This is not empty posting.

Do you townread Math?

[Creature]

Can we lynch one of Egg/Townblock? I doubt both town roleblockers suddenly got like "oh no valhala might be scum performing the kill we must roleblock him". Also, roleblocker dying is a significant loss for scum.

VOTE: Egg

[MathBlade]

Posted more thoughts. Incorrectly hypothesized Parama scum. Pressured Shaziro and Fire for more thoughts.

Shaziro was pretty mum except for the Dunn hydra but promised to follow up and did on day start. Fire posted being a lurk sac saying they hadn't followed the game much. Then when RachMarie said they were in a hood with Fire it caused me to flip my shit so to speak because Fire never mentioned or did anything useful except a random bullshit posting in the hood over me doing my usual thing.

[MathBlade]

That is the end of the summary for N1. Now since I am caught up time for my read wall.

[Thor665]

This is not empty posting.

Do you townread Math?

I actually would exactly call that empty posting, especially since the last post dings on anything of much value offered in the other posts.
And assuredly the posting has been empty this phase - like, aggressively empty.

I find his last post to ping town, but I wouldn't say I townread him. I also wouldn't say I scum read him either.

Can we lynch one of Egg/Townblock? I doubt both town roleblockers suddenly got like "oh no valhala might be scum performing the kill we must roleblock him". Also, roleblocker dying is a significant loss for scum.

Why do you think it makes sense to target the one of the two who claimed the block first, as opposed to the second?