Shadowrun Mafia - Game Over

[Daenerys and Dragons]

You're implying that something about our first post was enough to vote us at least partly seriously.

-Daenerys

[Albert B. Rampage]

Grovyle is plainly town, your bandwagon vote is scummy as hell.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum would neither go after the party leader if he was town nor scum. They would suck up to him or at least be neutral so they get selected in the mission. Grovyle is confirmed town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Let me reohrase that. Scum would not go after the day 1 party leader, whether the party leader is town or scum.

[Daenerys and Dragons]

Using bad and incorrect mod meta to tunnel someone is not townie at all
I kind of get what you're saying about scum not wanting to push the party leader but I don't think it makes them "conf town"

If Jae is scum it's an easy way for Grovyle to distance from a buddy early on without actually hurting the chances of them getting on the run team
If Jae is town it puts pressure on a townie in a position with a lot of power

-dragons

[Grovyle]

Using bad and incorrect mod meta to tunnel someone is not townie at all
I kind of get what you're saying about scum not wanting to push the party leader but I don't think it makes them "conf town"

If Jae is scum it's an easy way for Grovyle to distance from a buddy early on without actually hurting the chances of them getting on the run team
If Jae is town it puts pressure on a townie in a position with a lot of power

-dragons

Okay, this is pretty scummy.....

~fire

[Albert B. Rampage]

Never make a deal with a dragon.

Vote for Dragons with me to ensure victory.

[Grovyle]

I still want a read from jaereed before i move votes.
Pressure the party leader so we know if we can trust them!!!

~Fire

[Albert B. Rampage]

There's no point in a RVS / guess the setup vote on the face.

Using bad and incorrect mod meta to tunnel someone is not townie at all
I kind of get what you're saying about scum not wanting to push the party leader but I don't think it makes them "conf town"

If Jae is scum it's an easy way for Grovyle to distance from a buddy early on without actually hurting the chances of them getting on the run team
If Jae is town it puts pressure on a townie in a position with a lot of power

-dragons

Another scummy post. Look man, I've been doing this for a very long time. I'm good at it. Trust in me, dragons is scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

If Jae is scum it's an easy way for Grovyle to distance from a buddy early on without actually hurting the chances of them getting on the run team
If Jae is town it puts pressure on a townie in a position with a lot of power

The whole post is scummier, but this part doesn't even make sense. No townie thinks that way.

[Daenerys and Dragons]

basically

[Albert B. Rampage]

Dude you're caught. First you tried to make it seem like a personal bias but we don't have an adverserial relationship so it comes off as fake. Then you make up bad reasons to defend your bad FB vote despite acknowledging why I'm saying he's town is valid. You're entire strategy has been exposed, please die now.

[Daenerys and Dragons]

Dude you're caught. First you tried to make it seem like a personal bias but we don't have an adverserial relationship so it comes off as fake. Then you make up bad reasons to defend your bad FB vote despite acknowledging why I'm saying he's town is valid. You're entire strategy has been exposed, please die now.

You spent half your time in the Bloodborne dead thread cursing at us, you obviously have reasoning to have a grudge.

Acknowledging that what you're saying makes sense doesn't mean I agree with it.

It's like someone saying, "this person is scummy because they wouldn't tunnel a strong player as scum" which can be seen as a valid point but can be disagreed with.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I didn't curse at you. I wasn't mad at you and if people read the actual PT they would see that.

Our interaction was basically

Me: "If you didn't stop me, we'd have been way ahead."

You:"Yeah, sorry, I know I shouldn't have stopped you!"

[JaeReed]

Haven't read up past like page 7ish but @Fire my role being Face is what makes me party leader today. Party leader is chosen by a player after that.

The Party Leader will be selected by Mr. Johnson at night. Mr. Johnson will be informed of any restrictions of selecting the Party Leader. The Day 1 Party Leader and Mr. Johnson are linked to a roles in Pregame, and not selected by any player whatsoever. Votes to elect these roles will be "misplaced" with extreme prejudice. The title of "Mr. Johnson" may be transferred throughout the game without the owner dying.

Wanna catch up before giving my thoughts but I'm getting strong town feels from Grovyle so far.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Jaereed, Dragons is scum. If you want missions involving heavy combat and stealth, such as kidnapping, murder and scouting, I'm your guy. Pair me up with a IT guy, a demolitions guy, and we're in business. If you select other missions, I'm fine waiting until the next round.

[Daenerys and Dragons]

I didn't curse at you. I wasn't mad at you and if people read the actual PT they would see that.

Our interaction was basically

Me: "If you didn't stop me, we'd have been way ahead."

You:"Yeah, sorry, I know I shouldn't have stopped you!"

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8075171
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8075175
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8075184
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8080724

etc etc

[Albert B. Rampage]

I didn't curse at you. I wasn't mad at you and if people read the actual PT they would see that.

Our interaction was basically

Me: "If you didn't stop me, we'd have been way ahead."

You:"Yeah, sorry, I know I shouldn't have stopped you!"

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8075171
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8075175
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8075184
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8080724

etc etc

If anyone reads that last link they can see we weren't hating each other by that interaction.

[JaeReed]

Ok, so far what I am feeling pretty definitively here is that Grovyle & ABR are both town.

Cakez is pushing an angle I can't see coming from town, and the comment about Space Cowboy (who I also had bad vibes from) feels off as well.

VOTE: Dragons

If anyone wants me to back stuff up with quotes feel free to ask. I'm feeling kinda lazy so not gonna go through the casual chat again without prompting.

Gonna start looking into parties now, ABR.

[Daenerys and Dragons]

We didn't hate you. But you obviously harbored some vitriol towards us. You did curse. You insulted us several times. And you're wrong about us here - I don't know why you're trying to push us so seriously over a post Cakes made that sounds exactly like he did in Bloodborne. Stop.

-Daenerys

pedit: What was off about whatever comment on space cowboy? I believe cakes said they were feeling scummy, and you're getting bad vibes, so what gives?

[Daenerys and Dragons]

VOTE: vedith

[Daenerys and Dragons]

Cakes agreeing with something that someone else said is an "angle you can't see from town"?

[Daenerys and Dragons]

Using bad and incorrect mod meta to tunnel someone is not townie at all
I kind of get what you're saying about scum not wanting to push the party leader but I don't think it makes them "conf town"

If Jae is scum it's an easy way for Grovyle to distance from a buddy early on without actually hurting the chances of them getting on the run team
If Jae is town it puts pressure on a townie in a position with a lot of power

-dragons

Okay, this is pretty scummy.....

~fire

How is this scummy?

-Daenerys

[Reasonably Rational]

@Jaereed: consider appropriate skill sets for jobs. Obviously towniness comes first, but if you're torn between multiple town options, determine composition based on whose role name sounds like they would be good at whatever the job in question is.

FB: I'm not actually outright rejecting your hypothesis. I'm saying we lack the necessary information to logically arrive at that conclusion, that is all.

ABR: The mod meta push thing is SUPER weird from FB, but I do agree with the general idea that there's no scum benefit to pushing the D1 party leader. Even if they WERE scum distancing as someone suggested, it would basically be them creating an excuse to not give their team the opportunity to gain more resources/interfere with town missions.

Not so sure I buy the D&D thing though.

-Cerb

[Grovyle]

Using bad and incorrect mod meta to tunnel someone is not townie at all
I kind of get what you're saying about scum not wanting to push the party leader but I don't think it makes them "conf town"

If Jae is scum it's an easy way for Grovyle to distance from a buddy early on without actually hurting the chances of them getting on the run team
If Jae is town it puts pressure on a townie in a position with a lot of power

-dragons

Okay, this is pretty scummy.....

~fire

How is this scummy?

-Daenerys

It was the way it was went about saying that ABR had a point will still dismissing it.
Basically saying "Yeah, I guess he is likely town, but no way is CONF TOWN!"

And the last point about pressuring a townie made no sense.