RVS, who cares.
In post 583, camntsuki wrote:hey guys!
I am so sorry....I didn't know this game had started.
I haven't read a word, I will start now!
Mildly confusing, but then I realized this is probably the other head.
In post 587, camntsuki wrote:ok.
that was a pretty dull 24 pages.
farside, cheetory, and Ceph are town .
diamondsentinel, grib, and Keyen are all scum and/or intolerable.
but the MOST intolerable?
unvote
VOTE: DiamondSentinel
I keep odd hours... so I'm going to sleep now.
well...soon.
but our lurky phase is over. sorry again.
Almost 600 posts at this point, and this is the result of their catchup. Immediate dislike.
Unexplained reads, unexplained vote, and their scumreads are borderline "do not like"/policy votes, if anything.
In post 589, camntsuki wrote:all that Shiz with DS asking for Miller claims was scummy af.
everything Grib posts makes we feel like I wanna take a shower.
and Keyen is maybe just a newb... but if he lives to endgame
we, the town, lose this game
. regardless of his alignment. And if he IS town, which I doubt, he never eats a night kill for us. He just gets mislynched in Lylo.
This is probably camntsuki's best post out of their entire ISO, in terms of actually presenting what they're thinking and elaborating on reads.
Doesn't really go into the scum motivation for asking for a Miller claim. The read on me is white noise. The Keyen read is awkward, fence-sitty, and reads as "Keyen should die but I don't want to be held accountable for his flip." The "we, the town" line is SUPER forced here. Read the sentence out loud to yourself, it's palpable.
In post 595, camntsuki wrote: In post 593, Grib wrote:Also your catchup helps us learn precisely nil about your thought process and how you arrived at the reads you have. Your keyen read is incredibly fencesitty.
Don't really care about you understanding my thoughts, scum. And you used this line already this game. Think up some other way to try and fakehunt.
This is a post I have a hard time believing comes from town in their position. They're late, make a really short, vague catchup post, and are incredibly certain I'm scum for...no reason. "I don't want to talk to you because you're scum" is just BS excuse not to engage with me. I don't believe for a second this is a real read.
In post 656, camntsuki wrote:Got prodded during my vla!
Also just looking at grib's 593 he can hang for that
I'll pull up 593 for reference:
In post 593, Grib wrote:Also your catchup helps us learn precisely nil about your thought process and how you arrived at the reads you have. Your keyen read is incredibly fencesitty.
camntsuki thinks I deserve to be lynched for stating an objective fact about their catchup post. I have a hard time seeing that kind of justification coming from town.
In post 708, camntsuki wrote:hey, Grib!
I just woke up, and I see you have a lot to say to me. I also see you are jumping on the Snarky wagon, but if you wanna buss, I won't stop you.
We can work together for now.
Ceph, we are finally on the same page. I love it. don't let my other head rub you wrong this game!
UNVOTE:
VOTE: SnarkySnowman
oh PS-
Keyen: Call me a bitch again. I dare you.
And now they're voting with me? No mention of their read on SS here. And claiming I'm bussing based on...no reason. I'm starting to see a common theme here. camntsuki can pretty much post empty noise and several players are letting them get away with it for...meta reasons, I guess. I hate metareads when they're used to defend awful play.
In post 711, camntsuki wrote:@cheetory
I can get behind a snowman lynch.
I think I am town reading Medical though. I'll need a reread, though. I got a late start on this game.
p-edit: I'm a surprising person, and you are taking to to same me you thought.
They can get behind an SS lynch for...no reason.
I'm scumreading them by this point, in case I forgot to mention that. Actually, I've been scumreading them since their trash "grib is scum let's ignore him" post. I don't care about the read on me specifically, my dislike solely stems from the combination of their certainty in the read AND failure to elaborate on it at all, at any point, ever.
Response to me suggesting I was going to vig them. Weird. I'd expect them to make a jab about me NK'ing them instead of vigging them, or something. Frustrated that I might be a provable town PR?
Agreeing with Ceph, but Ceph kind of irritates me so I don't care.
Sorry Ceph. Maybe I'll like you more once you start killing scum.
Okay, a reason [for voting SS]. Not an especially good one, since. They're just leaving their vote on SS and not doing anything else to actually make them squirm.
Hating on Vig kills. Probably doesn't mean anything, but hey.
Still scumreading them, btw.
In post 919, camntsuki wrote:
I am starting to get a lean that way...Lets see what they have to say catch up wise.
They are leaning that way for...no reason.
Response to Nacho defending SS. No reasons given for hopping onto DS.
In post 937, camntsuki wrote:Please.
Its just a myth that I am obv obv all the time.
I get mislyched every other game.
Man, I want to snark here, but I should probably keep it civil.
Boring.
In post 950, camntsuki wrote:Back in the day, it seemed like I could nail nacho as scum EVERY TIME.
But since I came back, he is a mystery. Maybe it's me, but I think he just got crazy good.
Eh. Pointlessly fearmongering Nacho when I jokingly said I wanted to trust him unconditionally.
I don't get the special emphasis on farside.
Bad, bad, bad.
In post 1048, camntsuki wrote:protecting town? wtf?
Don't be silly. We protect no one at this point in the game. You are all f-ing suspect.
In post 1050, camntsuki wrote:also- nobody "thinks" they are town. You read your PM, and you know.
p-edit.
We don't give a shit about "projecting" town.
I can town it up, and eat the fucking Night-1 kill any day of the week. And it is stupid and I hate it.
Yes, town know they are town. They also have a certain conviction that shows when they believe someone is scum, and pushes their lynch. Scum have a hard time faking that conviction. Voting and pushing cases and throwing around words is easy, but /actually being convinced/ that someone is scum is harder to fake.
Which is why I'm constantly asking for REASONS for reads. If town don't have to give reasons and be held accountable for them, then neither do scum.
But this is getting into theory and you've already established that this isn't the time or place.
In post 1062, camntsuki wrote:
I did last game. Which informs my play on this game.
I actually disagree.
People who "project town" end up dead, mostly. And most endgames are a bunch of lurkertown and a bunch of scumzors, and the games suck and scum win.
But whatever. Keep giving me advice on my play, if you want. I'll keep rolling my eyes, and my other head will CERTAINLY ignore it. Meanwhile you distract the town from any actual scumhunting, which is the whole point of this line of discussion, I am sure.
Meanwhile... hm. I hope I'm voting for this new guy, DiamondSentinel, cuz he is scum. Oh good, I am.
"I want to be scummy on purpose so that I don't get shot by the mafia." What? That's terrible play.
Claims I'm distracting the town from scumhunting (lol), but looking at camntsuki's posts, I have to wonder:
what
scumhunting? I see next to none of it coming from them.
Another read sans explanation.
In post 1066, camntsuki wrote:Dear townies.
This game is already intolerable, and it's only day 1.
Please, for Cheetory, lets purge.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: GRIB
Yawn.
You will never lynch me.
In post 1074, camntsuki wrote:lets just do it, Bro. We already lost Cheetory to replacement and Katsuki to power-lurking.... Who is next?
Plus, its 70-30 they are scum, and its Day 1 anyway, so wgaf?!
Encouraging a policy lynch. Ew ew ew.
Does anyone actually believe that camntsuki thinks I'm scum? Or that their reads are anything but white noise?
These posts don't seem important or relevant to anything, so skipping commentary on them.
In post 1087, camntsuki wrote:GRIB NEEDS DEATH
THE FACT THAT
OUR SLOT AND BROSEIDON AGREE ON THIS ONE TRUTH
IS ALL THE REASON REQUIRED FOR ROPE
Boring fluff.
In post 1095, camntsuki wrote:Is Farside saying we are lurking now??
w/e. I'm going to bed, but if this wagon builds steam:
We are Clifford, The big Red Dog, and we are Vanilla.
g'night! Lynch us if you want!
VT claim, fake blase invitation to lynch them. Obviously, we know they flip the fuck out some more later at the wagon on them.
In post 1157, camntsuki wrote: In post 1155, Katsuki wrote:MOI is literally the worst player to have ever graced this site what a fucking surprise he's voting us
Grib is still scum and needs death this wagon on us is horrendous.
In post 1156, Katsuki wrote:The fact that MOI is voting us should be enough to modconfirm our slot as town.
Flaming/mudslinging, dropping the "go ahead and lynch us" facade.
Literally nothing in any of their posts thus far has made me stop and think "town?" Could be confirmation bias, but like. Even if I squint, there's /very/ little I like. I'm talking microscopic.
In post 1168, camntsuki wrote:
I had a genuine right to be angry in that game when I would have carried the town if not for kondiklick LOLBOMBING 3 RL days into the game.
Talking about another game, zzz.
Flaming.
In post 1243, camntsuki wrote:I think my partner doesn't like him.
also...
for real, please lynch us. pay attention to our wagon after the flip.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: camntsuki
Frankly, this is the first reasonable thing they've said all game.
In post 1248, camntsuki wrote:sorry nacho... it's already there. I don't even know why, but it rubbed me wrong from the beginning...and I'm the NICE one!
Eh, I have nothing nice to say to this, so.
In post 1258, camntsuki wrote: In post 1256, Imperium wrote: In post 1248, camntsuki wrote:sorry nacho... it's already there. I don't even know why, but it rubbed me wrong from the beginning...and I'm the NICE one!
If the game's reached a level of toxicity where the game is no longer enjoyable, better to replace out or power lurk, take some time off; no reason to actively push for a lynch that hurts the town.
Powerlurking until the scumfucks+MOI die off is optimal, but the other head dislikes lurking and would rather see us dead than me lurk so!
The game is probably toxic because you flipped out over almost getting lynched and started name-calling.
Just saying.
In post 1265, camntsuki wrote:
Policy lynch us then.
You will get our townflip, and we will but this game in our rearview.
I'm giving you the extra vote... if you have the juice, get it done!
Just please, god, make today end.
I will hammer Grib, DS or Snarky.
Katz will Hammer MOI, or probably anyone else except Nacho. Put them at L-1 and we will do the work.
Eh, encouraging your own lynch is wine. Especially when you're flipping from inviting people to lynch you, to screaming about how everyone on your wagon is scum, to voting yourself.
In post 1267, camntsuki wrote:PS, Ceph- I love you. For real.
Which makes your relationship with this hydra pretty complicated
Blah.
In post 1278, camntsuki wrote:jfc, I just looked at the people on our wagon.
I gotta write this down, for posterity:
DiamondSentinel, farside22, MagnaofIllusion, Waco Kid, Grib, keyenpeydee
Farside I like for town.
That's about it.
Going to motivations, Three of those 6 I named early on as scummy and/or useless.
One apparently has some longstanding issues with Katz.
Then there is farside, who I have always wanted to have a slumber party with, but our time has never come.
Don't know what Waco Kid's problem is... I think Nacho might be onto something- he is just opportunistic scum.
I'm feeling pretty good about the utility of this wagon- Anyone else wanna jump on? Anyone wanna join this distinguished group of players? It's easy! I am LITERALLY asking for the rope!
"These people I gave empty scumreads on are voting me, which means I'm right!" More self-campaigning. Yawn.
In post 1280, camntsuki wrote:That's what I am saying.
Considering my first post was attacking half our wagon, I fail to see how this is OMGUS.
Already shot this down.
Yuck.
I think the reason I don't want to vote Waco is because it's being pushed by people who aren't town enough. Without checking offsite, I have a light meta townread on Waco. Would like him to be a bit more active, though.
In post 1286, camntsuki wrote: In post 1281, Grib wrote:incredibly dumb, unproductive, not to mention frustrating
Also listen- because I am only going to say this once.
I am a volatile, emotional player. My other half is as well.
we win
a lot
of games. Sometimes by luck, sometimes not.
And we don't need mid-game advice... especially not from you.
You wanna talk after? Start a mafia discussion thread. In fact, there ALREADY IS ONE. I started it myself years ago. Until then, you are just another scumzor in our way.
@Moi- You don't have the votes.
I agree about my partner, though..he is prickly at times. It's part of his genius.
I genuinely dislike your playstyle, if you are town. One of your heads say you get mislynched often, and I can see why.
More mudslinging me for...no reason. Shocking.
In post 1288, camntsuki wrote:please let this be real. please let this be real. please let this be real. please let this be real.
I know, I was disappointed too.
In post 1304, camntsuki wrote:god I have to keep playing after all.
where is imperium and Ceph?
I need to get back to basics and build a real townbloc.
I'm no psychic, but I'm going to guess that this "townbloc" is just gonna be a bunch of names with no reasoning at all given.
In post 1317, camntsuki wrote:oh good.
tentative townbloc:
brosioden.
farside
Ceph
imperium
hiplop
fox mccloud
medical junkies
cheetory slot?
lynch the rest.
(Yeah, I cheated with that guess, but come on. It was obvious.)
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