Newbie 1726 (Game Over)

[Zaicon]

ecane,

Town Jailkeeper

, has been killed Night 2.

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►►Day 3◄◄

Vote Count 3.0

No Vote (6):

Foxbird, innocentvillager, Jaack, Nachomamma8, RachMarie, Zorblag

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 4:00 PM CST, which is in (expired on 2016-08-30 16:00:00).

[Nachomamma8]

i'm the one-shot bulletproof.

i don't really know where my reads stand at this point in time.

[RachMarie]

f***

hey nacho how do you feel about inno?

[Nachomamma8]

not as great as i felt about him yesterday

[RachMarie]

me either

VOTE: Inno

[Nachomamma8]

but i don't think it's a good idea to vote so quickly; we're in mylo and not lylo sure, but the less risk the better

[Zorblag]

With that claim we're probably best served by a full claim and then most likely a no lynch depending on what gets claimed.

In theory a bubble claim would be best, but for this game I don't think that it's worth the wait for the return on investment.

VT here.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[RachMarie]

crap you are right i did not check the numbers

UNVOTE:

Im VT

[RachMarie]

still I think Inno is scum

just want that on the record

[Zorblag]

Sorry, should have been popcorn, not bubble. It's been a while. But mostly we should just get the claim done and then probably get to the no lynch.

And we're slightly better off not talking about suspicions as scum are now night killing just based on manipulation. Knowing what we think based on flips helps them. Unless we're lynching discussion should wait until tomorrow.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[RachMarie]

LOL knew you meant popcorn

meh since I had voted for him off the bat kinda not anything new but I will keep mum about the other one

[Jaack]

VT here

[innocentvillager]

VT

dammit ecane.

[innocentvillager]

Seeing that Nacho is basically town, Rach is probably town, Foxbird is most likely scum here since Jaack/Zorblag team doesn't really make sense.

I don't know what to think anymore.

[innocentvillager]

not as great as i felt about him yesterday

I really hate this post, and I'll explain why.

How am I suddenly higher on your shit list from last night to now?? What the fuck happened?

First of all, ecane dying was obvious and we were all fucked once ecane basically PR claimed. Ecane probably would've been killed regardless unless both scum are oblivious to this game.

Second, I didn't want foe lynched and hard townread him but all you guys were like "OMG lynch foe". Not only was he strong town from Zaicon's "slip" (I didn't want to use that as a tell so I didn't bring it up again), but he looked like very strong newbtown. Granted I didn't push this as much D3 as I should've since I was focused on other stuff, but still. And even if you don't townread me for it, at least you shouldn't be scumreading me for it lmao.

I don't know if I like you for town anymore, especially since I just realized JK/VT/Goon is a viable setup too. You should definitely explain why "you feel worse about me today than yesterday" if I have done nothing scummy since last night.

I only see scum-motivation for this. It looks like you could be setting me up to get lynched later today by casting doubt on me, and then playing up towncred by telling Rach to "not vote yet", but you're still setting the stage to ML on me. It feels like you're riding Rach's suspicions here. I might've mistakenly townread you earlier just because I agree with a lot of stuff you say, but I suppose even somewhat skilled scum can do that when they're trying to analyze the game from a "town perspective".

Nacho, what was the motivation behind claiming BP so early?

That was some scattered thoughts, but would like an explanation to this, let me know if you want something re-explained since it is late and I may not be fully coherent.

[Zorblag]

@innocentvillager, before having discussion we should decide whether we're going to be playing today or going for the no lynch. If you're scum you're doing no harm other than possibly getting others to reply, but if you're town you're giving scum information to decide on what night kill makes the most sense. If we no lynch the next night kill makes the rest of town's job easier just by eliminating a potential suspect, but we want to get there with scum knowing as little about current thoughts as possible.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[innocentvillager]

That's a good point.

I think we should no lynch.

[Zorblag]

We want to finish the mass claim first which means we need to hear from Foxbird.

Then I might have something to say, I'm thinking about it overnight.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[innocentvillager]

honestly scum ccing bp might be a really optimal play

[innocentvillager]

i mean speculatively thinking

[Zorblag]

It would force us to take action today in a vaguely sub-optimal situation, but it's better not to talk about it.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Foxbird]

Games always progress while I'm asleep. :c

I'm a VT too.

I need to check some things so I'll give my thoughts when appropriate, I guess.

[Zorblag]

So this is normally when I advocate voting no lynch and forcing scum to narrow down our choices for a possible mislynch. Having said that, with the night kills I suspect we'd get and the fact that I have come to conclusions about alignments (in part due to this game and in part due to another which finished recently,) that make me more confident than normal in some set of my reads, I'd be fine with lynching as normal today.

I'm going to follow Nachomamma8's lead on this one. If, taking his thoughts of the game into consideration, he thinks that the no lynch is a better option then I'll go with that. If he thinks that some set of his reads are strong enough to make using the current town, rather than waiting for one more night kill, to make decisions is a better option I'll go with that as well.

I'll explain all of that once we're having actual game discussion.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[innocentvillager]

Zorblag why are you so inclined to trust Nacho?? He's just as unclear as the rest of us.

[innocentvillager]

*not clear, not as in unclear as in he's unsure lol